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A95705 Thirty and two extremes of these times discovered and reduced to sixteene golden meanes tending to the reducing of strayers, the establishing of waverers, and the uniting of judgements and hearts together in the truth. 1647 (1647) Wing T916; Thomason 669.f.11[66]; Thomason 669.f.14[48]; ESTC R210613 6,084 1

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Thirty and two Extremes of these times discovered and reduced to sixteene Golden Meanes tending to the reducing of Strayers the establishing of Waverers and the uniting of Judgements and Hearts together in the Truth Mat. 5. 9. Blessed are the peace-makers Rom. 14. 19. Let us therefore follow after the things that make for peace and things wherewith one may edifie another Job 32. 9. Great men are not alway wise neither doe the aged understand judgement Ould Exstreame Job 27. 11. I will teach you by the hand of God that which is with the Almighty will I not conceale Goulden Meane Job 38. 2. Who is this that darkneth counsell by words without knowledge New Exstreame 1 Old Extreme I Cannot abide to heare of your whimsicall wayes and your new lights which are so much talked of and set up now adayes for mine owne part I am resolved to go on and live and die in the old and true Protestant Religion and doe you take all your whimsicall wayes to your selfe 2 New Extreme And I do so esteem of our new wayes and new lights that I have no regard at all to any thing that is old 2 Cor. 5. 17. considering that the Apostle saith 2 Cor. 4. 6. Old things are past away behold all things are become new And that God who commandeth light to shine out of darknesse hath shined in our hearts to give the knowledge of God in the face of Jesus Christ. 1 Golden Mean It is not good so to adhear to any Old truth as to cast away any clearer discovery thereof neither is it good so to catch at any new notion as to cast away all Old truths because of a clearer discovery Jer. 6. 16. but it is good to stand in the wayes and see and aske for the Old paths which is the good way and walke therein And yet when any clearer discoveries of that light which shineth in a darke place 2 Pet. 1. 19 comes by meanes of the day-star arising in our hearts we are not to obscure it but yet say I to the Law Isa 8. 20. and to the Testimony if they speak not according to this word it is because there is no light in them 3 Old Extreme Well my desire is that Archbishops and Bishops might be restored againe to their places and dignities and that all things in the Church might be ruled and governed by them and their Officers as they have formerly been in this Kingdome 4 New Extreme You speak like an old simple and ignorant man and do well deserve to be questioned for your speeches for that were to bring the Saints of God into bondage againe 2 Golden Mean Doubtlesse the constitution of a Diocesian Bishop hath no footsteps in the word of God Luk. 22 25 26. and that Lording or Magistraticall power which they have exercised in the Church 1 Pet. 5. 3. especially of late yeares hath rather been Antichristian then Christian and therefore we are not to desire their restoration againe notwithstanding if any one through ignorance doe wish for such a thing let us beare with his weaknesse and endevour to instruct him better 5 Old Extreme I wish in mine heart that the Service-booke might bee read again in our Churches as it hath formerly béene for therein as I conceive the true Protestant Religion is contained 6 New Extreme But rather then I would come into a congregation where any of the Service-booke is read I would never come into congregation whilst I lived 3 Gold Meane Vndoubtedly the true Protestant Religion is contained in the old and new Testament and not in the service-Service-book and therefore a man may live and die in the true Protestant Religion though hee never hear leafe of the Service-book read in all his life nor one line of it be read at his death yet rather them I would omit the hearing of the Word I would heare much of it read 7 Old Extreme I wish in mine heart that every man and woman might be fréely admitted to the Sacrament of the Lords Supper as formerly they have béene 8 New Extreme But rather then I would receive the sacrament in the company of any man or woman whom I doe conceive are carnall unregenerate and unconverted I would never receive the Sacrament whilst I lived 4 Goulden Meane Surely none but such as are in the state of grace are to bee admitted unto the Sacrament of the Lords supper Rom. 4. 11 it being a scale of the Covenant of grace notwithstanding though I should bee jealous that such a man or woman were in the state of nature yet they being admitted by the Eldership I should rather chuse to thinke that they upon Examination had found more evidences of their being in the state of grace then ever I imagined and therefore would not omit the receiving of the Sacrament because of their presence there 9 Old Extreme I would have all infants that are borne alive to be Baptized presently because I am perswaded that none can be saved which die without Baptizme 10 New Extreme But I say that Beleevers are the only subjects of Baptisme but infants cannot beleeve and therefore no infant is to bee baptized 5 Golden Mean All elect infants shall undoubtedly bee saved though they bee not Baptized for they are saved by vertue of Christs blood and not by vertue of Baptisme neverthelesse I would have all the infants of beleeving parents to be Baptised Act. 2. 39. first because the promise is made both to them and their children Col. 2. 11 12. Secondly because Baptisme is come in the roome of Circumcision Act. 16. 33 34. And thirdly because we read in the new Testament that when the Master of the house was turned to the faith all his whole houshold were Baptized and that the houshold is taken for man woman and childe is evident Gen 18 19. Genes 49 8. 11 Old Extreme I would not have any man to take upon him to preach or expound or any way to doe the Of●ce of a Minister except he be endewed with humaine learning and have taken some Degrées in the Vniversity and be ordained and set apart thereunto 12 New Extreme But for my part I am so out of conceit with humane learning and degrees in Schools that I could wish every Minister of the Gospell were without them for I verily thinke a man cannot be a right Gospell Minister that makes any use of them and I would have every man to whom the Lord hath given any gifts to take all opportunities to exercise the same either publikely or privately whether he be ordained or no. 6 Golden Mean The truth is that humane learning and degrees in Schooles neither make a man a Saint nor an able Minister of the New Testament and yet considering that the originall of Scripture cannot be attained unto without the gift of Tongues and that in these last dayes the Lord doth deny men that immediate gift humane Learning and