Selected quad for the lemma: book_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
book_n	name_n	new_a	testament_n	2,500	5	7.9117	4	true

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A00294	A booke intituled, The English Protestants recantation, in mattersof religion wherein is demonstratiuely proued, by the writings of the principall, and best learned English Protestant bishops, and doctors, and rules of their religion, published allowed, or subscribed vnto, bythem, since the comminge of our King Iames into England, that not onely all generall grownds of diuinitie, are against the[m], but in euery particular cheife question, betweene Catholicks & them, they are in errour, by their owne iudgments : diuided accordingly, into two parts, whereof the first entreateth of those generall grounds, the other of such particular controuersies, whereby will also manifestely appeare the vanitie of D. Morton Protest. Bishop of Chester his boke called Appeale, or, Ansuueare to the Catholicke authour of thebooke entituled, The Protestants apologie.	Broughton, Richard.	1617 (1617)	STC 10414; ESTC S2109	209,404	418

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foarth_n kind_n of_o tradition_n be_v the_o continue_a practice_n of_o such_o thing_n as_o neither_o be_v contain_v in_o the_o scripture_n express_o nor_o the_o example_n of_o such_o practice_n express_o there_o deliver_v of_o this_o sort_n be_v the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n which_o be_v therefore_o name_v a_o tradition_n because_o it_o be_v not_o express_o deliver_v in_o the_o scripture_n that_o the_o apostle_n do_v baptize_v infant_n nor_o any_o express_a precept_n there_o find_v that_o they_o shall_v do_v it_o and_o his_o word_n of_o the_o plural_a signification_n the_o four_o kind_n of_o tradition_n such_o thing_n of_o this_o sor●e●_n etc._n etc._n be_v sufficient_a argument_n that_o he_o allow_v diverse_a other_o tradition_n of_o this_o nature_n that_o which_o he_o add_v we_o find_v the_o scripture_n to_o delyver_v the_o ground_n of_o it_o be_v express_o 85._o field_n pag._n 228._o covell_a def_n of_o hook_n pag._n 85._o against_o himself_o before_o and_o d._n covell_n thus_o assure_v we_o in_o these_o word_n doctrine_n derive_v exhortation_n deduct_v interpretation●_n agreeable_a be_v not_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o d._n feild_n 226._o feild_n supr_fw-la pag._n 226._o private_a interpretation_n be_v not_o so_o propose_v and_o urge_v as_o if_o they_o will_v bind_v all_o other_o to_o receive_v it_o yet_o all_o man_n be_v bownde_v to_o receive_v and_o firm_o believe_v article_n and_o matter_n of_o faith_n further_n d._n willet_n tell_v we_o that_o vigilantius_n 13._o willet_n antilog_n pag._n 13._o be_v condemn_v of_o heresy_n for_o deny_v reverence_n to_o relic_n and_o yet_o protestant_n general_o teach_v that_o doctrine_n be_v not_o contain_v in_o holy_a scripture_n d._n feild_n write_v 29._o field_n pag._n 138._o l._n 3._o cap._n 29._o in_o these_o word_n aerius_n condemn_v the_o custom_n of_o the_o church_n in_o name_a the_o dead_a at_o the_o altar_n and_o offer_v the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o eucharist_n for_o they_o for_o this_o his_o

the_o worship_v of_o picture_n and_o their_o own_o patriarch_n in_o his_o censure_n of_o protestant_n deliver_v his_o sentence_n in_o this_o order_n we_o do_v honour_n and_o be_v prostrate_a to_o 21._o hieremius_fw-la in_o censur_fw-la cap._n 21._o their_o imadge_n not_o with_o that_o worship_n which_o be_v proper_a to_o god_n but_o relative_o and_o with_o a_o certain_a respect_n to_o the_o exemplar_n therefore_o by_o these_o protestant_n the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v true_a in_o this_o question_n three_o i_o argue_v thus_o all_o man_n allow_v honour_n or_o reverence_n to_o be_v due_a and_o do_v to_o thing_n less_o significative_a of_o god_n saint_n or_o holy_a thing_n must_v needs_o allow_v it_o to_o thing_n more_o significative_a and_o represent_v but_o these_o english_a protestant_n allow_v such_o honour_n or_o reverence_n to_o thing_n less_o representative_a and_o only_o under_o that_o formality_n of_o represent_v therefore_o they_o ought_v to_o allow_v to_o thing_n more_o representinge_v holy_a image_n etc._n etc._n the_o mayor_n be_v evident_a be_v a_o argument_n affirmative_a from_o the_o less_o to_o the_o great_a the_o minor_a be_v thus_o prove_v by_o these_o protestant_n by_o citeinge_v from_o they_o how_o they_o allow_v honour_n and_o reverence_n to_o thing_n less_o representinge_v than_o image_n that_o be_v to_o book_n to_o the_o name_n of_o a_o thing_n to_o be_v honour_v to_o sacrament_n which_o they_o say_v be_v only_a sign_n d._n feild_n entreat_v of_o the_o reverence_n do_v to_o imadge_n write_v thus_o it_o be_v 152._o field_n pag._n 152._o like_a to_o the_o honour_n we_o do_v to_o the_o book_n of_o holy_a scripture_n to_o this_o i_o add_v their_o command_v reverence_n in_o their_o service_n and_o church_n to_o the_o name_n of_o jesus_n when_o it_o be_v read_v in_o the_o gospel_n confirm_v comm._n book_n confirm_v which_o custom_n of_o reverence_n the_o university_n of_o oxford_n in_o their_o answer_n to_o the_o puritan_n millinarie_a petition_n confirm_v and_o defend_v in_o these_o word_n reverence_n do_v at_o 14._o answer_v to_o the_o millinarie_a petition_n pag._n 14._o the_o name_n of_o jesus_n to_o be_v our_o inward_a subjection_n to_o his_o divine_a majesty_n and_o a_o apparent_a token_n of_o our_o devotion_n then_o needs_o must_v the_o reverence_n do_v at_o a_o picture_n and_o imadge_n be_v such_o concern_v the_o sign_n in_o sacrament_n with_o they_o m._n 163._o perkins_n probl_a pag._n 163._o perkins_n the_o famous_a sacramentary_a write_v thus_o honour_n veneratio_fw-la reverentia_fw-la exhibetur_fw-la sacramento_n quatenus_fw-la signum_fw-la est_fw-la honour_n worship_n reverence_n be_v give_v to_o the_o sacrament_n as_o it_o be_v a_o sign_n where_o honour_n worship_n and_o reverence_n be_v allow_v not_o only_o to_o a_o sign_n but_o under_o that_o formality_n quatenus_fw-la signum_fw-la est_fw-la as_o it_o be_v a_o sign_n and_o when_o we_o come_v to_o examine_v this_o protestant_n it_o be_v no_o immediate_a sign_n of_o christ_n but_o of_o grace_n by_o he_o only_o a_o quality_n spiritual_a as_o their_o definition_n of_o their_o sacrament_n sign_n of_o grace_n do_v witness_v therefore_o 25._o articul_fw-la relig._n 25._o a_o imadge_n the_o immediate_a sign_n representation_n and_o expression_n of_o christ_n and_o so_o of_o other_o holy_a imadge_n and_o more_o perfect_o represent_v be_v rather_o to_o be_v honour_v worship_v reverence_v as_o his_o word_n be_v four_o i_o argue_v thus_o all_o man_n allow_v honour_n reverence_n or_o worship_n to_o the_o sign_n or_o imadge_n of_o the_o cross_n of_o christ_n must_v allow_v it_o to_o his_o immediate_a and_o perfect_o reprent_v imadge_n but_o these_o english_a protestant_n allow_v it_o to_o the_o sign_n or_o picture_n of_o the_o cross_n of_o christ_n therefore_o they_o ought_v to_o allow_v it_o to_o his_o imadge_n and_o so_o of_o other_o by_o like_a proportion_n the_o mayor_n be_v sufficient_o prove_v before_o as_o also_o that_o the_o sign_n of_o the_o cross_n be_v less_o figure_v and_o present_v christ_n than_o his_o own_o imadge_n the_o minor_a be_v prove_v thus_o by_o their_o own_o writing_n first_o in_o the_o king_n canon_n the_o sign_n of_o the_o cross_n be_v name_v a_o honourable_a badge_n therefore_o 140._o can._n 140._o it_o may_v be_v honour_v for_o whatsoever_o be_v honourable_a worthy_a of_o and_o deserve_a honour_n may_v be_v honour_v d._n covell_a writing_n against_o burges_n the_o puritan_n deny_v the_o use_n of_o the_o sign_n of_o the_o cross_n write_v thus_o there_o be_v a_o 115._o covell_n against_o burges_n pag._n 115._o reverend_a use_n and_o estimation_n of_o the_o sign_n of_o the_o cross_n in_o the_o apostle_n time_n therefore_o it_o be_v still_o to_o be_v as_o then_o use_v and_o esteem_v with_o reverence_n and_o thus_o again_o he_o write_v of_o the_o sign_n of_o the_o cross_n it_o be_v a_o lawful_a outward_a ceremony_n and_o 116._o covell_a sup_n pag._n 116._o honourable_a badge_n and_o the_o very_a name_n of_o the_o cross_n have_v and_o shall_v be_v honourable_a among_o all_o true_a christian_n to_o the_o world_n end_n and_o again_o it_o be_v so_o far_o honour_v sup_n pag._n 126._o sup_n by_o the_o holy_a ghost_n that_o it_o often_o express_v the_o whole_a merit_n of_o christ_n passion_n it_o seem_v to_o be_v a_o apostolical_a tradition_n it_o have_v then_o honour_n be_v a_o ancient_a and_o reverend_a sign_n m._n perkins_n write_v 139._o pag._n 139._o in_o these_o word_n the_o wood_n of_o the_o cross_n in_o the_o church_n of_o constantin_n in_o the_o feast_n of_o the_o exaltation_n sup_n perkins_n probl_a pag._n 79._o pag._n 83._o sup_n of_o it_o be_v kiss_v and_o worship_v adoratur_fw-la the_o cross_n be_v reverence_v and_o worship_v within_o the_o first_o 400._o year_n and_o to_o that_o purpose_n he_o cit_v prudentius_n paulinus_n s._n hierome_n euagrius_n allege_v diverse_a public_a example_n in_o that_o sense_n further_o i_o argue_v thus_o out_o of_o m._n burges_n the_o puritan_n what_o soever_o honour_n be_v give_v to_o the_o sign_n of_o the_o cross_n by_o the_o primative_a father_n may_v now_o be_v give_v by_o catholic_n to_o the_o imadge_n of_o christ_n this_o be_v prove_v before_o but_o as_o much_o reverence_n as_o catholic_n use_n be_v use_v to_o the_o sign_n of_o the_o cross_n by_o the_o primative_a father_n therefore_o catholic_n may_v lawful_o use_v their_o reverence_n to_o holy_a imadge_n the_o mayor_n be_v before_o prove_v the_o minor_a be_v justify_v by_o m._n burges_n in_o his_o 146._o burges_n apol_n apud_fw-la covell_n pag._n 146._o apology_n writing_n that_o the_o ancient_n father_n origen_n tertullian_n s._n cyprian_n s._n hierome_n s._n athanasius_n and_o s._n augustine_n do_v allow_v as_o much_o reverence_n and_o virtue_n to_o the_o sign_n of_o the_o cross_n as_o catholic_n 594._o wotton_n def_n of_o perk._n pag._n 594._o do_v and_o m._n wotton_n confess_v thta_fw-la lactantius_n approve_v the_o worship_n of_o the_o cross_n fifte_o in_o this_o question_n i_o argue_v thus_o whatsoever_o doctrine_n about_o imadge_n be_v practise_v by_o s._n basile_n and_o the_o primative_a church_n be_v true_a and_o may_v still_o be_v practise_v but_o such_o use_n of_o imadge_n as_o be_v with_o catholic_n now_o be_v then_o practise_v therefore_o it_o may_v still_o be_v practise_v the_o first_o proposition_n be_v often_o prove_v and_o grant_v before_o and_o the_o minor_a thus_o prove_v by_o these_o protestant_n 594._o wotton_n def_n sup_v pag._n 594._o first_o m._n wotton_n grant_v from_o s._n basile_n these_o word_n i_o honour_v the_o history_n of_o imadge_n and_o do_v proper_o worship_v they_o therefore_o they_o 78._o perlins_n probl_a pag._n 78._o may_v be_v so_o still_o use_v m._n perkins_n write_v thus_o the_o use_n of_o imadge_n be_v public_a in_o church_n within_o the_o first_o 400._o year_n and_o again_o the_o imadge_n of_o mary_n the_o virgin_n be_v wont_a to_o be_v carry_v in_o solemn_a pomp_n solemni_fw-la in_o pompa_fw-la efferri_fw-la and_o so_o no_o doubt_n reverence_v as_o whatsoever_o be_v so_o solemn_o carry_v and_o bear_v in_o pomp_n and_o honour_n must_v needs_o be_v use_v the_o very_a bear_v itself_o in_o such_o order_n be_v a_o reverence_n last_o i_o make_v this_o argument_n such_o use_n of_o imadge_n as_o be_v practise_v by_o the_o jew_n in_o the_o time_n of_o the_o law_n be_v still_o lawful_a for_o christian_n but_o the_o jew_n in_o that_o time_n do_v practice_n without_o reprehension_n the_o worship_n or_o reverence_n of_o imadge_n therefore_o it_o be_v now_o lawful_a the_o mayor_n be_v evident_a for_o all_o dyvine_n grant_v that_o the_o prohibition_n to_o the_o jew_n prone_a to_o idolatry_n be_v as_o severe_a or_o more_o to_o they_o then_o to_o christian_n the_o minor_a be_v thus_o grant_v by_o m._n wotton_n the_o jew_n in_o the_o temple_n before_o christ_n 582._o wotton_n def_n of_o perk._n pag._n 581._o 582._o do_v worship_v

by_o their_o judgement_n be_v orthodox_n and_o catholic_a and_o neither_o heretical_a nor_o damnable_o scismaticall_a otherwise_o against_o d._n feilds_n supposition_n and_o title_n his_o fellow_n relator_n have_v prove_v it_o to_o be_v such_o again_o m._n middleton_n tell_v we_o that_o in_o the_o 51._o middleton_n papistom_n pag._n 51._o mass_n of_o basile_n chrisostome_n and_o epiphanius_n all_o greek_a father_n the_o dead_a be_v pray_v for_o but_o because_o they_o will_v perhaps_o look_v for_o the_o very_a name_n of_o purgatory_n i_o deduce_v it_o from_o the_o time_n of_o the_o apostle_n to_o have_v be_v teach_v and_o the_o doctrine_n thereof_o in_o the_o greek_a church_n for_o m._n perkins_n tell_v we_o that_o dionysius_n etc._n perk._n problem_n pag._n 178._o the_o protestant_a book_n of_o homel_n bell._n motiu_fw-la fol._n 133._o etc._n etc._n common_o call_v and_o by_o protestant_n the_o areopagite_n s._n paul_n scholar_n do_v teach_v in_o purgatorio_fw-la expiari_fw-la 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