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A27541 Ludlow no lyar, or, A detection of Dr. Hollingworth's disingenuity in his Second defence of King Charles I and a further vindication of the Parliament of the 3d of Novemb. 1640 : with exact copies of the Pope's letter to King Charles the first, and of his answer to the Pope : in a letter from General Ludlow, to Dr. Hollingworth : together with a reply to the false and malicious assertions in the Doctor's lewd pamphlet, entituled, His defence of the King's holy and divine book, against the rude and undutiful assaults of the late Dr. Walker of Essex. Ludlow, Edmund, fl. 1691-1692.; Bethel, Slingsby, 1617-1697.; Charles I, King of England, 1600-1649. Reply to the pope's letter [of 20 April 1623]; Gregory XV, Pope, 1554-1623. 1692 (1692) Wing B2068; ESTC R12493 70,085 85

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himself Had the King any Friend more trusty than Bishop Iuxon Or was he too good or above doing such Service for his Master who had not a Servant who loved or honoured him more Or was he too busy to attend it when he was wholly out of all Employment and enjoy'd the most undisturbed Privacy and Quiet of any Man that had serv'd the King in any eminent Degree Or was Bishop Iuxon less sit and able than a private Man when the Book consists of Policy and Piety And who a sitter Judg of what concerned the first than one who had so long been a Privy-Counsellor and Lord-High-Treasurer of England And for the second he was one on whom the King relied as much or more than on any Man for the conduct of his Conscience as appeared by his singling him out to be with him in his preparations for Death And why must Bishop Iuxon desire another Man to do that Work for which had there been any such Work to be done he was the fittest Man alive for Fidelity for Ability for Inclination to his Master's Service and for vacancy and leisure Let 's soe now what Answers their Majesty's Chaplain at Aldgate makes to these plain Questions for we find him vaunting pag. 22. That he hath made out Matter of Fact against Dr. Walker 's Assertions in his vain shuffling proud and inconsistent Book Why all that the Aldgate Doctor saith hereunto is pag. 9. He Dr. Walker questions Sir Iohn's Memory and talks of his Youth to invalidate the Story but that is so great an Affront to all the young Gentlemen and Apprentices in London who at the Age of Nineteen are so very much imployed and trusted in their Master's Books and Accounts that I leave them to vindicate Sir Iohn upon the score of helping his Father in a thing of such a Nature as this was at such an Age. What ridiculous Stuff is this 'T is such an inexcusable Affront to the London Apprentices to say That though they understand their Master's account-Account-Books they have not at Nineteen the necessary qualifications of States-men and Divines that they must be instigated to draw up an Abhorrence against it and it may be this Doctor who would cokes them to fall upon Dr. Walker as their common Enemy designs them a Venison Feast this Season but should he do it I advise you as his Friend to caution him to appoint it at some other place than Merchant-Taylors Hall in regard Dr. Meriton lives opposite to it and it may be some diminution to his Credit if that Reverend Divine should take the opportunity to cross the Street and tell him in the midst of his Jollity with the Lads that he hath twice belied him in his malicious Scriblings against Dr. Walker The Aldgate Doctor pag. 9. dismisses Sir Iohn Brattle saying And this is all I have to say as to Sir John Brattle and that he told me this I will depose upon Oath whenever I am lawfully RECALLED I have heard of Re-ordaining Recanting and Re-recanting and it is more than probable that this Learned Gentleman understands the meaning of these words but 't is beyond my Capacity to make sense of Recalling in this place and he will oblige me in telling me his meaning therein And to requite the Courtesy you may tell him that I will produce good Evidence upon Oath when REquired there 's a Re for his Re that Sir Iohn Brattle who I agree is a very worthy Person doth declare That he never told Dr. Hollingworth or any other Person that the Papers he spoke of were writ with the King 's own Hand Their Majesty's Chaplain may not take it ill or think that his Veracity is called into Question by enquiring of Sir Iohn about this Matter for we had his leave to do it when he asserted the thing and said Thanks be to God Sir John is yet alive and is ready to give the same Account to any Man that asks him The Aldgate Doctor affirms pag. 10. That the Reverend Dr. Meriton dining the latter end of the last Year with the Lord Mayor Sir Thomas Pilkington happened to meet with Dr. Walker at the same Table where Dr. Walker was pleased with his usual Confidence to assert Dr. Gauden the Author of the King's Book Upon which Dr. Meriton turned upon him with the Story of Mr. Simmonds communicating the whole thing to Dr. Gauden upon which he was so confounded that he had nothing to say for himself and though if none but Dr. Meriton himself had declared to me quoth he the Issue of their Debate it would have satisfied me yet the further satisfaction I had from my worthy Friend Mr. Marriot then Chaplain to the Lord-Mayor and Minister of the Parish Church in Rood-Lane who stood by and heard the whole Discourse and withal the silence he put Dr. Walker to which he professed to my self gave me so full a satisfaction that upon that account I ventured to give the World an Account of it in print Now it had been much better either to have let this Story quite alone or to have given a true Relation of it but our Author trusts to Falshoods more than to the Truth of the Cause he saith in his Preface If any Man questions the Truth of these Living Evidences I have quoted if he pleases to come to me I will wait upon him to them and he shall have satisfaction from themselves of the truth of what I have writ I should tell him now if I did not know him that he might be ashamed to prevaricate as he doth but he hath cast off all Shame he exclaims thus upon Dr. Walker page 20. Well done Dr. Walker if thou ever hadst a Man alone with thee undoubtedly he was alwaies on thy side and thou wert always in the right and when the Man was dead wouldst assume the confidence to print it In what words now shall I bespeak Dr. Hollingworth he offers to wait upon any Man who is doubtful in the Matter to the Persons he names and yet I am at a certainty that he hath assumed the confidence to put these reverend Divines Dr. Meriton and Mr. Marriot whom he terms his Worthy Friends in print whilst living without their Privity or Consent or consulting them of the truth of what he relates and I am as sure that they will not averr what he asserts they told him for without putting the Doctor to the trouble of waiting upon him I engaged a Friend to enquire of these Reverend Persons of the truth of what he writes relating to them and Dr. Meriton saith that Dr. Hollingworth hath committed two Mistakes to give it no harder Name in the Story for whereas he affirms that Dr. Walker with his usual Confidence began the Discourse at my Lord-Mayor's Table Dr. Meriton declares that there was no such Discourse at the Table but that after Dinner he himself began the Discourse taking Dr. Walker into a Corner of the Room and Mr. Marriot is
pleased to declare that he did not much observe the Discourse not charge his Memory with the Particulars thereof but believes that Dr. Meriton began it and that Dr. Walker did assert in reply to him that Dr. Gauden was the Author of the Book Yet we are to believe if we please that poor Dr. Walker was confounded and put to silence but I am sure the Aldgate Doctor ought to be so whose very asserting a thing ought to carry in in self an Argument of Credibility and from henceforth surely he will be for ever banished from the Society of Learned and Honest Men. Where are we next Dr. Hollingworth saith pag. 9. The next thing I shall discourse upon is the Story of Mr. Simmonds Is it so come then let me hear it A reverend Friend the Vicar of Witham acquainted him where the Widow of Mr. Simmonds lived The Doctor went to her and enquired whether she knew any thing of the King's Book and how far her Husband was concerned in it she presently answer'd the Doctor that going into her Husband's Study she saw upon the Table a Book in writing which she knew was not her Husband's Hand and therefore asked him whose it was but he turned her off with bidding her mind her own Business A doughty Story upon my word and such a Command as this to mind his own Business from my Lord Bishop of London to our Doctor might have prevented the blotting of abundance of Paper but seeing 't is tumbled out and that with the License of his Lordship's Chaplain with a vain imagination that it serves the Cause I will take the liberty to say That a Friend of mine without consulting either the Vicar of Witham or the Vicar of Gotham sound that Mris. Simmonds lived with Mr. Span in Creed-lane near Black-Fryers and he assures me that upon discourse with her she appeared to be a very discreet and good Woman as in earnest I am assured her Reverend Husband was and did acknowledg that Dr. Hollingworth had been with her which without further examination of the abovementioned Story it deserving no Remark I will allow to justify the Doctor therein But quoth he pag. 11. she told me her Husband never joyed himself after the King's Murther but fell sick and died the 29th of March following So she told my Friend but with this difference as the Doctor knows but he seems resolved never to tell the Truth the whole Truth and nothing but the Truth that his Sickness whereof he died was the Small-Pox The Doctor 's next living Witness is your honest Name-sake Mr. Milbourn the Printer he told the Aldgate Chaplain if a Man may take his word That in 1648 he was Apprentice to Mr. Grisman a Printer at which time Mr. Simmonds by Mr. Royston sent the King's Book to be Printed and that his Master did Print it and that Mr. Simmonds alwaies had the Name of sending it to the Press and that it came to them as from the King Now though it seems as improbable that a Printer's Apprentice should know the Author of a Book which comes to his Master through several Hands as 't is in this Relation to be Printed with the greatest privacy as that those London Apprentices who understand the keeping their Master's Accompts are therefore capable of being Ministers of State Yet I will not contend this matter with Mr. Milbourn but be it as he saies In the next place pag. 13. I find a Certificate under the Hand of Mr. Clifford who assisted Mr. Milbourn in Composing and Correcting the Book which backs his Story with this Addition that great part of the Book was seized in Mr. Simmond's Lodgings and he though in a Shepherd's Habit was so far discovered as that he was pursued into Great Carter-Lane by the Rebels where he took Refuge and the bloody Villains fired two Pistols at him which frighted him up Stairs and out of the Garret-window he made his escape over the Houses And he further saith That he never heard nay that he is sure Dr. Gauden never was concerned in that Book by which Mr. Milbourn and himself printed it This Certificate I find Sir is attested by your self and Margaret Hollingworth And one of your and my Neighbours was inquisitive upon the reading it to know whether this Iewel for so they say Margaret is in the Greek be the Doctor 's Wife or Daughter but I could not resolve it Now had Dr. VValker been alive and had Clifford made Oath of what he here asserts I know not but he might have been indicted for Perjury for saying That he is sure Dr. Gauden was never concerned in the Book And then Dr. Hollingworth who confesses that he procured and penn'd this Certificate might have been in some danger of an Indictment for Subornation But pray let us compare the Relation of Mr. Clifford with that of good Mrs. Simmonds She saith That she lodged with her Husband in Carter-Lane and that their Lodgings being discovered a Souldier shot a Pistol to mark the Door the very Expression used by Dr. VValker in his Relation of the Story pag. 30. but she and her Husband were at that time at Dinner with a Major of the King 's at one Mr. Chibar's a Minister about Old Fish-street and had notice brought thither that Souldiers had been at their Lodgings whereupon her Husband went away bidding her go home And the Souldiers coming soon after to Mr. Chibars his House the Major made his escape at a Garret-Window before the Door of the House was unlock'd And she further told my Friend That till he read it to her out of Dr. Hollingworth's Book She never heard of her Husband 's going in a Shepherd's Habit. But when this Matter comes to be scrutiniz'd I foresee that our Doctor will affirm That by a Shepherd's Habit he only meant a Gown and Cassock The next material thing which occurs is pag. 17. If he the Essex Doctor had writ nothing but Truth a Nut-shell would have held it all There are more Brains in a Walnut than in the Aldgate Doctor 's dry Skull and their Shells are alike thin and brittle he is equally a Stranger to Wit and Manners but a quart Pot will scarce contain the Falshoods which he hath writ Page 19. Our Author inserts the Transcripts of two Letters from one Tom. Long of Exeter as he affirms which say That Dr. Gauden told him that he was fully convinc'd that the Eicon Basilice was entirely the King's Work This famous Story I observe is esteemed by their Majesties Aldgate Chaplain as a stabbing Evidence for before he came at it we were threatned with it all along in his Book Page 6. he said By and by I will prove under the Hand of a more credible Man than ever Dr. Walker was that Dr. Gauden had another Opinion of the Author of the Book Page 17. We have the same thing over again in these words I say and will prove it by a better Evidence than Dr.