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A40651	The appeal of iniured innocence, unto the religious learned and ingenuous reader in a controversie betwixt the animadvertor, Dr. Peter Heylyn, and the author, Thomas Fuller.	Fuller, Thomas, 1608-1661.	1659 (1659)	Wing F2410; ESTC R5599	346,355	306

but Prudence in me to believe my self above such Trifles who have written a Book to Eternity Fourthly I regreat not to be Anvile for any ingenious Hammer to make pleasant musick on but it seems my Traducer was not so happy Lastly I remember a speech o● Sir Walter Rawleighs If any saith he speaketh against me to my face my Tongue shall give him an Answer but my back-side is good enough to return to him who abuseth me behind my back Dr. Heylyn In the next ranck of Impertinencies which are more intrinseall part of the substance of the work I account his Heraldry Blazons of Arms Descents of noble Families with their Atchivements intermingled as they come in his way not pertinent I am sure to a Church-Historian unless such persons had been Founders of Episcopal Sees or Religious-Houses or that the Arms so blazoned did belong to either Fuller I answer in generall Those passages of Heraldry are put in for variety and diversion to refresh the wearied Reader They are never used without asking of leave before or craving pardon after the inserting thereof and such craving is having a request in that kind with the Ingenious Grant it ill manners in the Author not to ask it is ill nature in the Reader not to grant so small a suit Mr. Camden in his description of Oxfordshire hath a prolixe though not tedious poeme of the marriage of Thame and Isis which he ushereth in with Si placet vel legas vel negligas read or reject either set by it or set it by as the Reader is disposed The same though not expressed is implied in all such Digressions which may be said to be left unprinted in Effect to such as like them not their Ploughs may make Balks of such deviations and proceed to more serious matter Dr. Heylyn Our Author tells us lib. 9. fol. 151. that knowledge in the Laws of this Land is neither to be expected or required in one of his profession and yet I trow considering the great influence which the Laws have upon Church-matters the knowledge of the Law cannot be so unnecessary in the way of a Clergy-man as the study of Heraldry But granting Heraldry to be an Ornament in all them that have it yet is it no ingredient requisit to the composition of an Ecclesiastical History The Copies of Battle-Abbey Roll fitter for Stow and Hollinshead where before we had them can in an History of the Church pretend to no place at all though possibly the names of some may be remembred as their Foundations or Endowments of Churches give occasion for it The Arms of Knight-Errant billeted in the Isle of Ely by the Norman Conqueror is of like extravagancy Such also is the Catalogue of those noble Adventurers with their Arms Issue and Atchievements who did accompany King Richard the first to the War of Palestine which might have better serv'd as an Appendix to his History of the Holy War then found a place in the main Body of an History of the Church of England Which three alone besides many intercalations of that kind in most parts of the Book make up eight sheets more inserted onely for the ostentation of his skill in Heraldry in which notwithstanding he hath fallen on as palpable Errors as he hath committed in his History Fuller Mr. Fox in his Acts and Monuments hath done the like presenting the names of such who came over at the Norman Conquest I have only made their Catalogue more complete And seeing it was preserved in Battle-Abbey the very addition of Abbey doth dye it with some Ecclesiastical tincture The Arms of the Knights of Ely might on a threefold title have escaped the Animadvertor's censure First they was never before printed Secondly the Wall whereon they were depicted is now demolished Lastly each Knight being blended or as I may say empaled with a Monk a Moiety of that Mixture may be construed reducible to Church-History As for the Arms of some signal persons atchieved in the HOLY-WAR If the Sirname of WAR be secular the Christian name thereof HOLY is Ecclesiastical and so rendred all actions therein within the latitude of Church-History to an ingenuous Reader Dr. Heylyn For besides those which are observed in the course of this work I find two others of that kind in his History of Cambridge to be noted there For fol. 146. he telleth us That Alice Countess of Oxford was Daughter and sole Heir of Gilbert Lord Samford which Gilbert was Hereditary Lord Chamberlain of England But by his leave Gilbert Lord Samford was never the hereditary Chamberlain of the Realm of England but only Chamberlain in Fee to the Queens of England betwixt which Offices how vast a difference there is let our Authour judge Fuller I plead in my own defence according to my last general Answer that I have charged my Margin with my Autho● Mr. Parker Fellow of Caius College in Cambridge one known for a most ab●● Antiquary but especially in Heraldry and I thought that he had lighten on some rare Evidence out of the ordinary road but seeing he was mistaken I will amend it God willing in my next Edition Dr. Heylyn And secondly The Honor of Lord Chamberlain of England came not unto the Earls of Oxford by that Marriage or by any other but was invested in that Family before they had attained the Title and Degree of Earls Conferred by King Henry the first on Aubrey de Vere a right puissant Person and afterwards on Aubrey de Vere his Son together with the Earldome of Oxford by King Henry the second continuing Hereditary in that House till the death of Robert Duke of Ireland the ninth Earl thereof and then bestowed for a time at the Kings discretion and at last setled by King Charls in the House of Lindsey Fuller This is nothing Confutatory of Me who never affirmed that the High-Chamberlainship accrued to the House of Oxford by any such match Dr. Heylyn But because being a Cambridge Man he may be better skill'd in the Earls of that County let us see what he saith of them and we shall find fol. 162. That Richard Plantagenet Duke of York was the eighth Earl of Cambridge Whereas first Richard Duke of York was not Earl of Cambridge Fuller He was he was he was as presently God willing will appear beyond all doubt and contradiction Dr. Heylyn And secondly If he had been such he must have been the seventh Earl and not the eighth For thus those Earls are marshalled in our Catalogues of Honor and Books of Heraldry viz. 1. William de Meschines 2. Iohn de Hainalt 3. William Marquess of Iuliers 4. Edmond of Langley D. of York 5. Edward D. of York 6. Richard de Conisburgh younger Brother of Edward 7. Iames Marquess Hamilton c. Fuller Indeed they are thus reckoned up in a late little and useful Book entituled The Help of History made as I am credibly informed by the Animadvertor himself and therefore by him wel

stiled OUR Catalogues of Honour But more exact Heralds whom it concerns to be skilful in their own Profession do otherwise account them Dr. Heylyn No Richard Duke of York to be found amongst them his Father Richard of Konisburgh having lost that Title by Attainder which never was restored to Richard his Son though most improvidently advanced to the Dukedom of York nor unto any other of that Line and Family Fuller I admire at the Animadvertor's peremptoriness in this point when the no less learned but more modest Mr. Camden speaking of these Earls in the Description of Cambridge-shire saith that after the death of Richard of Conisburgh The Title of the Earl of Cambridge either wholly vanished with him or else lay hid amongst the Titles of Richard his Son who was restored Duke of York as Kinsman and Heir to his Uncle Edward Duke of York What he warily said laid hid is found out by such as since wrote on that Subject Mr. Brooke York Herald and Mr. Augustine Vincent in effect Mr. Camden revised who writing Corrections on Brooke concurreth with him in this particular for Richard of Edward's Brother was after created Earl of that place Cambridge and after him another Richard who was Richard of Conisburgh's Son See Reader what an Adversary I have gotten who careth not to write against the most evident and avowed Truths so be it he may write something against Me. Dr. Heylyn 4. Proceed we in the next place to Verses and old ends of Poetry scattered and dispersed in all parts of the History from one end to the other for which he hath no precedent in any Historian Greek or Latine or any of the National Histories of these latter times The Histories of Herodotus Xenophon Thucidides and Plutarch amongst the Greeks of Caesar Livy Salust Tacitus and Suetonius amongst the Latines afford him neither warrant nor example for it The like may be affirmed of Eusebius Socrates Sozomen Theodoret Ruffin and Evagrius Church-Historians all though they had all the best choice and the most excellent Poets of the world to befriend them in it And he that shall consult the Historyes of succeeding times through all the Ages of the Church to this present day will find them all as barren of any incouragements in this kind as the ancients were Fuller Never had Herodotus given his Nine Books the names of the Nine Muses if such was his Abstemiousness from Poetry Not one of them which is 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 in this kind and there are found in Clio the first no fewer than thirty Verses of the Oracles of Pythia As those his Books are fruitful so his Book of the Life of Homer hath a superfetation of them so that if Paose be the Warp Verses are the Woof thereof Whereas the Animadvertor instances in Plutarch open at the life of Theseus and we are presented with Poetry therein But grant no precedent in this nature in these Authors A more free Genius acteth in modern than in ancient Historians manumissed from the Servilities they were tied or tied themselves unto The Animadvertor like another Empson endevoureth to revive the Penal Statutes of History against me so to subject me to fine for the breach thereof which Time in effect hath cancelled Qui Scribit Historicè scribit miserè if enslaved to all puntillo's thereof Let the Animadvertor keep those Steel-bodys for his own wearing and not force them on me What not a Plait or a Ruffle more or less but all must be done in Number Waight and Measure according to Historicall criticisme This is not putting the Book but the Author himself into the Press Tacitus himself here instanced in would be Tacitus indeed if all Politick Sentences and prudential results were deleted in him being trespasses on the preciseness of History confined to matter of Fact But well-fare that Historian who will go out of his own way to direct his Reader We know Pliny Solinus c. in their Topographical description of Countreys are barren of verses Let the Animadvertor on the same account therefore charge Mr. Camden for surcharging his Britannia with Poetry having but three verseless Shires viz. Dorset Bucks and Westmerland in all England and more than fourscore verses apeece in the three severall Counties of Berks Oxford and Somerset Dr. Heylyn Nay whereas Bishop Godwin in his Annals gives us an Epitaph of two Verses only made on Queen Iane Seymour and afterwards a Copy of eighteen verses on the Martyrdome of Arch-Bishop Cranmer he ushers in the last with this short Apology Contra morem Historiae liceat quaeso inserère c. Let me saith he I beseech you insert these following verses though otherwise against the Rule and Laws of History Fuller What if that worthy Prelate was pleased to pass a Complement on his Reader it followeth not that they do want Civility who have less Courtship in this Point than he hath Let us look on his Catalogue of Bishops which hath more vicinity with my Subject and there we shall find the Bulk of the Book considered more verses in proportion than in my Church-History on the token that where I cite but four he quoteth fourteen out of Martial to prove Claudia Ruffina a Britan and a Christian. Dr. Heylyn But what alas were eighteen or twenty verses compared with those many hundred six or seven hundred at the least which we find in our Author whether to shew the universality of his reading in all kind of Writers or his faculty in Translating which when he meets with hard Copies he knows how to spare I shall not determine at the present Fuller If peeces of verses be counted whole ones which in this point is no Charitable Synecdoche and if Translations be reckoned distinct Verses though it is hard that a Man and his Shadow should be accounted two different persons And if the verses in the History of Cambridge be adjected though he who banisheth Poetry out of an University will find Iambicks enough to pay him for his pains And if the verses in the History of Waltham-Abby be cast in though who shall hinder but I will describe my own Parish in Prose or Poetry as I think fit all put together will not amount to the number Besides many of my verses may be said to be Prose in Effect as containing the Religion of that Age and therefore alledged as Evidence thereof before the Norman Conquest and no authority can in Prose be produced which doth so fully and cleerly represent the same Other Verses are generally Epitaphs on some eminent Church-men which could not well be omitted Dr. Heylyn Certain I am that by the interlarding of his Prose with so many Verses he makes his Book look rather like a Church-Romance our late Romancers being much given to such kind of mixtures than a well-built Ecclesiastical History And if it be a matter so inconvenient to put a new peice of cloth on an old garment the putting of so many old patches on a