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A88227	The oppressed mans oppressions declared: or An epistle written by Lieut. Col. Iohn Lilburne, prerogative-prisoner (by the illegall and arbitrary authority of the House of Lords) in the Tower of London, to Col. Francis West, lieutenant thereof in which the oppressing cruelty of all the gaolers of England is declared, and particularly the lieutenants of the Tower. As also, there is thrown unto Tho. Edwards, the author of the 3d. ulcerous gangræna, a bone or two to pick: in which also, divers things are handled, of speciall concernment to the present times.	Lilburne, John, 1614?-1657.	1647 (1647)	Wing L2149; ESTC R202786	33,231	28

GANGRAENA he hath fallen so point blanke upon me for no other cause but for standing for the Fundamentall Lawes of England which if he had not an absolute desire to be notoriously forsworn he might know his Covenant binds him to doe the same But seeing he there playes the simple man to fight with his owne shadow and doth not in the least meddle for any thing I can perceive by so much as I have read of his Book which so neare as I could find was every place where I was mentioned with the Statutes and other Legall Authorities that I cite in my wives petition and else-where to prove That all the Commoners of England ought in all criminall cases to be tryed by their Peers that is Equalls and that the House of Lords in the least are not the Peeres of Commoners And therefore seeing seemingly by that ulcerous book he hath given me something to answer that concernes me I will really and substantially give him something to answer that in good earnest concerneth him and all the rest of his bloody-minded pretended reformed fellow-Clergy Presbyters that lying deceitfull forsworn and bloodye Sect of whom it is true that the Prophet said of the Prophets of old That they make the people to erre and bite with their teeth and cry peace and he that putteth not 〈◊〉 theis mouthes they even prepare warre against him Micah 3.5 And that at present I have to put him to answer shall be certain Arguments which I made when I was close prisoner in irons in the Fleet against the then Episcopall Ministers of the Church of England which will serve in every particular against the present Presbyteriall Ministers and you shall find them thus laid downe in the 23. page of my Book called An Answer of 9. Arguments written by T.B. and printed at London 1645. First That every lawfull Pastor Bishop Minister or Officer in the visible Church of Christ ought to have a lawfull call and be lawfully chosen into his Office before be can be a true Officer in the Church of Christ Acts 1.23 24 25. and 6.3.5 6. and 14.23 Gal. 1.1 Heb. 5.4 But the Ministers and Officers in the Church of England as well Presbyterian as Episcopall have not a lawfull call neither are lawfully chosen to be officers in the Church of Christ See the booke of Ordination of Bishops Priests and Deacons as also the Directory and compare them with the Scripture Therefore all your Ministers are false and Antichristian Officers Rev. 9.3 and 13.2 and 16.13 Secondly the doing of those actions that belong to the execution of an Officer doth not prove a man to be a lawfull Officer but a lawfull power instating him into his Office Acts 8.4 and 11.19 20. and 28.24.25 26. 1 Cor. 14.29 30 31. 1 Pet. 4.10 But all the Ministers in the Church of England have nothing to prove the Lawfullnesse of their standing in the Ministry but the actions of a Minister and are not in the least able to prove that they are instated in the Ministry by vertue of a lawfull power and authority Therefore they are no true Ministers of Christ but false and Antichristian Ministers of Antichrist Thirdly againe in the third place upon your owne grounds I frame this Argument Those that by their Ministry doe not accomplish the same ends that the Ministry of the Apostles did are no true Ministers But the Ministers of the Church of England doe not accomplish the same ends by their Ministry that the Ministery of the Apostles did 1 Cor. 11.2 Therefore your Ministers are no true Ministers of Iesus Christ But Gangraena one word more at present-to-you seeing in the 271 281. p. of your late 3 d. Gangraena you fall so exceeding heavie upon me and my honest Comrade Mr Overton and say that if these two audacious men their daring bookes shall escape without exemplary punishment and instead there of be countenanced and set free I doe as a Minister pronounce but I say it is as one of Sathans that the plague of God will fall upon the heads of those that are the cause of it Come Antagonist let us come to a period for I hope for all your mallice you are not yet so farre gone beyond your selfe as to desire to have me hanged or killed and then condemned and adjudged and therefore I will make you two faire propositions First in reference to the Lords whose Goliah and Rabshaka-like Champion you are that if you please to joyne with me in a desire to both Houses I will so for goe below my selfe and my present appeale now in the House of Commons always provided it may not be no prejudice to the benefit I shall justly expect from my said appeale and joyne with you in this desire that there may be by both House a proportionable number thereof mutually by themselves chosen out to sit openly and publickly in the painted Chamber where I will against you by the established Lawes of this Land maintaine against you and all the Lawyers you can bring this position which is absolutely the contest betwixt the Lords and me THAT THE LORDS AS A HOUSE OF PEERS HATH NO JURISDICTION AT ALL OVER ANY COMMONER IN ENGLAND IN ANY CRIMINALL CASE WHATSOEVER and if you will I will wholly as in reference to the contest betwixt you and me stand to the vote and abide the judgement and sentence of that very Committee whose vote upon the fore-mentioned tearmes if you will tye your selfe J will tye my selfe either actually to execute or passively to suffer and undergoe it Jn the second place because so farre as J am able to understand your meaning in your fore mentioned pages you would have me dealt withall as the Earle of Strafford and the Bishop of Canterbury was for indeavouring as you say with so much violence the overthrow of the three Estates and the Lawes of the Kingdome and in the stead of the fundamentall Government and constitution of this Kingdome to set up an Utopian Anarchy of the promiscuous multitude and the lusts and uncertain fancies of weake people for Lawes and Rules Now in regard of the distractions of the Kingdome which are many and that they might not be made wider by new books from either of us J shall be very willing for peace and quiet sake to joyne with you in a Petition to the House of Commons to appoint a select Committee publickly to examine all things that are amrsse in your bookes and mine and to punish either or both according to Law and Justice without partiality and J appeale to all rationall men in the world whether I have not offered fayre or no. But in regard I know not whether you will imbrace my proffer I shall speake a little more for my selfe and reduce all to these three heads First whether the Lords have by the knowne Law of the Land any jurisdiction over the Commoners or no Secondly whether in the Parliaments own publick declarations in Mr. Prinns soveraign

power of Parliaments and in the Assemblies exhortation to take the solemn League and Covenant and other Presbyterian bookes licenced by publicke authority and others fold without controule there be not more said to justifie and maintaine that which Gangraena calls Utoplan Anarchy then in any bookes whatsoever published by these be calls Sectaries Thirdly whether or no that out of my owne words in my booke called INNOCENCY AND TRVTH IVSTIFIED there can any thing be drawn to iustifie the Lords in that which now I condemne them in as Gangraen a affirmes pag. 159. 148. For the first see what the 29. Chapter of Magne Charta saith No free-man shall be taken or imprisoned or be disseised of his free hold or Liberties or free Customes or be outlawed or exiled or any otherwise destroyed nor wee will not passe upon him nor condemn him but by lawfull judgement of his PEERS or by the Law of the Land See the 3. of E. 1. ch 6. And that no Citie Borough nor Town nor any man be amerced without reasonable cause and according to the quantity of his trespasse 9. H. 3. 14. that is to say every free man saving his free hold a Merchant saving his Merchandise a villain saving his waynage and that by his or their Peers Now here is the expresse Law of the land against the Lords jurisdiction over Commons in criminall cases Now in the second place let us see what one of the ablest expositors of the Law that ever writ in England saith of this very thing and that is Sir Edward Cooke in his exposition of Magna Charta 2. part institutes which booke is published by two speciall orders of the Present Houser of Commons as in the last page thereof you may read who in his expounding the 1● Chapter of Magna Charta pag. 28 saith Peers sign●…e E●…lls and pag. 29. be saith the generall div●sion of persons by the Law of England is either one that is noble and in respect of his nobility of the Lords House in Parliament or one of the Commons of the Realm and in respect thereof of the House of Commons in Parliament and as there be divers degrees of Nobility as Dukes Marquesses Earles Viscounts and Barrons and yet all of them are comprehended within this ward PARES so of the Commons of the Realme there be Knights Esquires Gentle-men Citizens Yeomen and Burgesses of sever all degrees and yet all of them of the COMMONS of the Realme and as every of the Nobles is one Peere to another though he be of a sever all degree so is it of the Commons and as it bath been said of men so doth it hold of Noble-women either by birth or by marriage but see hereof Chap. 29. And in Chap. 29. pag 46. Ibim he saith no man shall be disseised that is put out of season or disposed of his freehold that is Lands or livelihood or his liberties or free Customes that is of such franchises and freedomes and free Cusiomes as belong to him by his birth-right unlesse it be by lawfull judgement that is verdict of his equalls that is men of his owne condition or by the law of the Land that is to speak it once for all by the due course and processe of Law No man shall be in any sort destroyed to distroy id est what was first built and made wholly to overthrow and pull down unlesse it be by the verdict of his equalls or according to the law of the Land And so saith he is the sentence neither will wee passe upon him to be understood but by the judgement of his Peers that is equails or according to the Law of the Land see him pag. 48. upon this sentence per judicium Pacium suorum and page 50. he saith it was inacted that the Lords and Peers of the Realm should not give judgement upon any but their Peers cites Rot. Parl. 4. E. 3. nu 6. but making inquiry at the Reco●r Office in the Tower I had this which followes from under the hand of Mr. William Collet the Record-Keeper Out of the Roll of the Parlament of the fourth yeare of Edward the third The First Roll Records and Remembrances of those things which were done in the Parliament summoned at Westminster on Munday next after the Feast of Saint Katherine in the yeare of the reigne of King Edward the third from the Conquest the fourth delivered into the Chancery by Henry de Edenstone Clerk of the Parliament THese are the Treasons Felonies Wickednesses The judgement of Roger de Mortimer done to our Lord the King and his people by Roger de Mortimer and others of his confederacie First of all whereas it was ordained at the Parliament of our lord the King which was held next after his coronation at Westminster that four Bishops four Earles and six Barons should abide neere the King for to counsel him so alwayes that there may be foure of them viz. one Bishop one Earle and two Barons at the least And that no great businesse be done without their assent and that each of them should answer for his deeds during his time After which Parliament the said Roger Mortimer not having regard to the said assent tooke upon himselfe Royall power and the government of the Realme and encroacht upon the State of the King and ousted and caused to be ousted and placed Officers in the Kings House and else where throughout the Realm at his pleasure of such which were of his minde and placed John Wyàrd and others over the King to espy his actions and sayings so that our Lord the King was in such manner environed of such as that hee could not doe any thing at his pleasure but was as a man which is kept in ward Also whereas the Father of our LORD the KING was at Kenilwarth by ordinance and assent of the Peers of the Land there to stay at his pleasure for to be served as becommeth such a Lord the said Roger by Royall power taken unto himselfe did not permit him to have any money at his will and ordered that he was sent to Rarkly Castle where by him and his he was traitorously and falsly murthered and slain But that which is this to my purpose is Roll the second being the judgement of Sir Samon de Bereford which verbatim followeth thus The Second Roll. ALso in the same Parliament our Lord the King did charge the said Earles and Barons to give right and lawfull judgement as appertained to Simon de Bereford Knight who was aiding and counselling the said Roger de Mortimer in all the treasons felonies and wickednesses for the which the âforesaid Roger so was awarded and ajudged to death as it is a known and notorious thing to the said Peers as to that which the King intends The which Earles Barons and Peers came before our Lord the King in the same Parliament and said all with one voice that the foresaid Simon was not their Peer wherefore they were

whole Parliament no nor the whole House of Commons it selfe according to their own principles which is the only clause he can fix upon And good Mr. Gangrena is it not as just and as man-like in me if I be set upon by you when I have no better weapons to cudgell you with then your own to take them from you and knockt your pate as to make use of my owne propper weapons to cut you soundly or any other man that shall assault me to the hazzard of my being and this is just my case that you count such a disgrace untome But say you there I have owned their legislative power and their judicative power over commons Therefore you draw an inference to condemn me from mine own practice Alas man may not I Lawfully seeke or receive a good turn from the hands of any man yet as lawfully doe my best to refuse a mischief from him But secondly I answer what though the 4. of May. 1641. I stooped to arryall at the Lords Barre upon an impeachment against me by the King doth that ever the more justifie their Authority or declare me to be mutable and unstable no not in the least for you cannot but know the saying of that most excellent Apostle Paul 1 Co. 13 11 ' When J was a child J spake as a child I under stood as a child I thought as a child but when I became a man I put away childesh things So say I to you five or six yeares ago I knew nothing but the Lords Jurisdiction was as much more above the House of commons over Commons as their Robes and Grandeur in which they sat was above them especially seeing at all conferences betwix both Houses I sec the members of the house of commons stand bare before the Lords for which action I now see no ground for especially having of late read so many bookes which discourseth upon the Lords jurisdiction which was upon this ground about a moneth or six weeks before the Lords cast me in prison A Gentleman a Member of the house of Commons and one that I believe which wisheth me well bid me look to my selfe for to his knowledg there was a designe amongst some of the Lords the grounds of reasons of which he then told me to clap me by the heeles and to fall so heavie upon me as to crush me in pieces or else make me at least an example to terrisie others that they should not dare to stand for their Rights And being thus fore-warned I was halfe a med which made me discours upon every opportunity with any that I though knew any thing of the Lords Jurisdiction and I found by a generall concurence that the 29. Ch. of Magna Charta was expresly against the Lords jurisdiction over Commoners in all criminall cases And upon that ground I protested against them and then upon further inquiry I found Sir Edward Cooks Judgement expresly against them as is before recited which book Mr Gangraena I must tell you is published since my first tryall before the Lords and was not publikely in being when I then stooped unto their jurisdiction and then comming prisoner to the Tower one of my fellow-prisones very honestly told me of the fore-mentioned Record of Sir Simon de Bereford which presently with all speed under Mr. Collets hand I got out of the Records office All which just and legall authorities and testimonies makes me so stiffe against the Lords as I am and I hope I shall continue to the death against them in the thing in question betwixt us as unmoveable as a brazen Wall come hanging come burning or cutting in pieces or starving or the worst that all their malice and ulcerous Gangraena Priests put together can inflict for all that I principally care for is to see if the thing I engage in be just and if my conscience upon solid and mature deliberation tell me it is I will not by the strength of God if once I be engaged in it either goe through with it or dye in them dest of it though there be not one man in the world absolutely of my mind to back me in it But lastly admit in former times I had been as absolute a Pleader for the Lords jurisdiction over Commoners as now I am against them Yet truly a man of Mr. Gangraenes coat is the unfittest man in the Kingdome to reprove mee for it For his Tribe I meane of Priests and Deacons those littie toes of Antichrist now called reformed Presbyters are such a Weather-cock unstabled generation of wavering minded men as the like are not in the whole Kingdom For their predecessors in Henry the 8. dayes were first for the Pope al bis Drudgeries and then for the King and his new Religion and then 3. in his time returned to their vomit againe and then fourthly in Edward the 6. dayes became by his proclamation godly reformed Protestants and then 5. in Queen Maries dayes by the authority of her and her Parliament which Parliament I doe aver it and will maintaine had as true a ground to set up compulsive Popery as this present Parliament hath to set up compulsive Presbytery became for the generality of them bloody and persecuting Papists and then 6. by the authority of Queen Elizabeth and her Parliament who had no power at all no more then this present Parliament to wrest the Scepter of Christ out of his hands and usurpedly to assume the Legislative power of Christ to make Lawes to governe the Consciences of his people which they have nothing at all to doe with He having made perfect compleat and unchangeable Lawes himselfe Esay 9.6.7 and 33.20 22. Act 1.3 and 3.22 23. and 20.26 27. 1 Cor. 11.1.2.1 Tim. 6.13.18 Heb. 3.2 3 6. became againe a Generation of pure and reformed Protestants and have so continued to this present Parliament But now like a company of notorious forsworne men who will be of any Religion in the world so it carry along with it profit and power after they have for the generallity of them taken and sworn six or seven Oaths that the Bishops were the only true Church-government and that they would be true to them to the death Yet have now turned the 7. time and engaged the Parliament and Kingdome in an impossible-to-be-kept oath and Covenant to root up their ghostly Fathers the Bishops as Antichristian from whom as Ministers they received their life and Being Yea and now the 8th time have turned and falne from that Covenant and Oath by which they mode all swear that took it not onely to root out Bisheps but all Officers whatsoever that dependeth upon them In the number of which are all the m●…lves having no other ordination to their Ministery but what they had from them and so are properly really and truly dependents upon them and yet now of late have by themselves and instruments as it were forced the House of Commons to passe a vote to declare

great distruction by them both in my body goods and trade and fince this Parliament have spent many hundred pounds to obtaine my just reparations besides other great losses I have had and yet have not got a penny and being a younger brother and in Land have not 6. d. in comming in the year and being robbed of my trade calling and lively-hood by the Merchant Monopolizers so that I could not with freedome transport one Cloth into the Low-countries to get any lively-hood thereby all which above a yeare agoe I was necessitated publikely to declare in answer to William Pryns lyes and falshoods in my book called Innocency and Truth justified which there you may read especially in pag. 39. 43. 47. 48. 62. 65. 75. and now being committed to your custody in the Tower the chargeablest Prison this day in all England and where I am denyed the just and legal usage and allowance that the King himselfe used to allow all prisoners committed to this place although they had great estates of their owne in their owne hands and possession whose allowance was to find them diet lodging and pay their fees Vox Plebis p. 50. 56. 57. Nay when I came in and desired you that I might have my diet from my wife out of the town which I did for two reasons First for safety having heard much of sir Thomas Overburies being poysoned when he was a prisoner in the Tower Secondly for the saving of money which stood me much upon but you absolutely denyed me that legal and just priviledge and tyed me either to fast or have my diet from the Cookes in the Tower Thirdly being thus committed to this extraordinary chargeable expensive place and being in so mean a condition as I must ingeniously confesse I was you took in the third place the ready way to sterve and destroy me and of your owne head ordered your Warders to take the names and places of habitation of all those that came to see me or speak with me a distructive bug-bear to any captived prisoner which the Law of England doth not in the least authorize and inable you to doe but this was not all but in the fourth place my friends though they gave their names were by your Warders set on by your selfe for upon your score I must and doe lay it all exceedingly in words abused and divers of them turned away and not suffered to come and speake with me O bloody and cruell man what is this else but an absolute Declaration of your resolved intention to destroy me in my imprisonment under your custody which the Law abhors but if for the sake of the Law or for my sake you will not square your dealings with me according to the known law of the kingdome then for your owne sake I desire you to remember your Predecessour Sir Garvase Elvish who was indicted by the name of Gaoler of the Tower of London and hanged upon Tower-hill for consenting to the poysoning of his Prisoner Sir Thomas Overbury Vox Plebis pag. 47. In the fifth place seeing by all the fore-mentioned wayes and meanes you could not scare all my friends from me and so by consequence destroy me Then you devise another way and set one of your old Mastive dogs upon me to baite and to worry me with lyes reproaches and calumniations and for that end printed and published a most base and scandalous booke against me thereby to make me odious to all men whatsoever that would believe that book which was published against me at such a time when by your selfe my hands were fast tyed behind my back being kept by your order very strictly from Pen Ink and Paper and so in a condition unable publikely to vindicate my selfe and much importunity was I forced to use to your selfe before I could obtaine leave from you to answer it and necessitated to tye my selfe by promise to such and such conditions and amongst the rest that you should read it all over before it was published And I for my part performed my promise and was necessitated to give the originall into your hands in such hast that I could not take a Copy of it out of whose hands I could not get it tell I was in some respect necessitated to an arbitration and being not able to doe what I would for my own vindication I was in a manner compelled by you to be content with what I could doe which was to accept a submission from him for my wounded rent and torn reputation by him although if I could have accomplished what I desired I should first have published my answer to his lyes and then if he had a mind put it to arbitration but necessity hath no other Law but a stooping to it but I was in hope that I should have found so much cancor and ingenuity in you your Agent old Iohn White as that I should not have had the like abuses from you after that arbitration that I had before it from you both but in regard that he at the gate as my friends informes me doth not cease in his rancour and venim against me I must be necessitated to publish my answer to him especially seeing as I conceive Tho. Edwards the cankered Gangraena is joyned in confederacy with him But at the prefent I shall content my selfe with the inserting of his recantation or acknowledgement and referre the Reader for a full relation of that arbitration to the 59. 60 61 62 63. pages of my late book called Londons Liberty in Chains discovered the aforesaid acknowledgement thus followeth I Iohn White one of the Warders of the Tower of London doe acknowledge that I have uniustly wronged Lieut. Col. Iohn Lilburn in and by my writing and publishing in print in such such sort as I did that he was the writer Author or Contriver of a booke called Liberty vindicated against Slavery and of a printed letter thereunto annexed and of a Booke or Treatise called An Alarum to the house of Lords for all which and for the unjust and scandalous matters and language alleadged and used by me in my said Booke reslecting upon the said Lieu. Col. Lilburn I am heartily sorry and in testimony thereof I have hereunto subscribed my hand the 8 day of October 1646. Iohn White Subscribed pronounced and accepted the 9. Day of October 1646. in the presence of us Knights Iohn Strangwayes Lewis Dive Iohn Glanvil William Morton Henry Vaughan Christopher Comport Warder in the Tower Sixthly after all this by meanes of my Wifes Petition which was delivered to the House of Commons 23. September 1646. and which you may read in the last mentioned book pap 65 66. 67 68 c. by meanes of which there was a Committee of the honourable house of Commons appointed to heare and receive my complaint against the Lords and the 6. of Novemb. 1646. was the last time I was before the Committee where I had an opportunity in part to declare unto them your illegall

not bound to judge him as a Peer of the Land But because it is a notorious thing and known to all that the aforesaid Simon was aiding and counselling the said Roger in all the treasons felonies and wickednesses abovesaid the which things are in usurpation of Royall power Murther of the Liege Lord and distruction of Blood-Royall and that he was also guilty of divers other felonies and Roberies and a principall maintainner of Robbers and felons and the said Earles Barons and Peers did award and adjudge as judges of Parliament by the assent of the KING in the same Parliament that the said Simon as a Traytor and enemy of the Realm be drawn and hanged And thereupon it was commanded to the Martiall to doe execution of the said judgement The which execution was done and performed the Munday next after the Feast of St. Thomas the Apostle In the same Roll. And it is assented and agreed by our Lord the King Agreement not to bee drawn into example and all the Grandees in full Parliament that albeit the said Peers as Judges of Parliament took upon them in the presence of our Lord the King to make and give the said judgement by the assent of the King upon some of them which were not their Peers and that by reason of the murther of the Liege Lord and distinction of him which was so new of the blood-Royall and Sonne of the King that therefore the said Peers which now are or the Peers which shall be for the time to come be not bound or charged to give judgement upon others then upon their Peers nor shall doe it But let the Peers of the Land have power but of that for ever they be discharged and aquit and that the aforesaid judgement now given be not drawn into example or consequent for the time to come by which the said Peers may be charged hereafter to judge others then their Peers against the Law of the Land if any such case happen which God defend Agreeth with the Record William Colet It is the saying of the spirit of God Eccle. 4.9.12 two are better then one and a threefold cord is not easily broken so that to prove my position true for all the Rabsh●ka Language of Gangraena I have first the fundament all Law point blank on my side and secondly the judgement of on of the ablest Lawyers that ever writ in England and his Iudgement authorised as good and sound by the present House of Commons to be published to the view of the whole Kingdome and thirdly the Lords owne confession for if you marke well the two last lines of the fore-cited record you shall find they ingeniously confesse and declare that it is against the Law of the Land for them to judge a Commoner and for further confirmation of this read Vox Plebis pag. 18 19. 36. 37 38. 39 40. 41 42 44 45. But if the Vicerous Gangraena please to read a late printed booke called Regall tyranny discovered he shall find that the Author of that Book in his 43 44 45 46 47 86. pages layes downne many strong a guments to prove That the house of Lords have no legislative power at all And in his 94. 95 96. 97 pages he declares and proves That before Will the Conquerer subdued the rights and Priviledges of Parliaments that the King and the Commons held and kept Parliaments without temporall Lords Bishops or Abbets The two last of which he proves had as true and goed right to sit in Parliament as any of the present Lords now sitting at westminster either now have or ever had For the second thing which is Whether or no there be not in the present Parliaments Declarations and in the Assemblies exhortation to take the Covenant and in Mr. Prynns Soveraign power of Parliaments and other Presbyterian books publickly licenced and others sold without controll as much if not more said to set-up or maintain that which Gangrena cals Vtopian Anarchy then in any Books what ever published by those he calls Sectaries And I averre it positively There is and shall joyn issue with Gangraena to prove it in every particular Therefore let him publish an exact Catalogue of any of our Positions when he pleaseth and I doubt not but to make it evident that it cannot justly by them be counted any vice in us to tread in their steps especially seeing they have accounted them so full of piety truth and honesty as they have done Now first for the Parliaments Declarations read but the Kings answers to them and you shall easily see he layes it as deeply to their charge of endeavon ring to set up Anarchy as Gangraena doth either to mine or Mr Overtons yea and instances the particulars and tells them plainly The Arguments they use against him will very well in time serve the people to turn against themselves And as for Mr. Prynnes Soveraigne power of Parliaments I never read more of that Doctrine in any Book in all my life that Gangraena so much condemnes in me c. then in that very Book which is licenced by Mr White a member of the House of Commons and in his dayes as stiffe a Presbyterian as Gangraena himselfe See his 1. part Sover pag. 5 7 8 9 19 26 29 34 35 36 37. But especially 42 43 44. 47 57 92. And 2. part pag. 41 42 43 44 45 46. and 73 74 75 76. and 3. part 11 12 13 14 15 16 17. and 61 62 63 64 65. and 131 132 133. And 4. part pag. 10 11. 15 16. See his Appendix there unto pag. 1 2 3 4 5. 11 13 13 c. Besides these see the first and second part of the Observations Maximes unfolded the case of Ship-money briefly discoursed A new Plea for the Parlement A fuller Answer to a Treatife written by Dr. Fern with divers others Now for the third thing which is the tyrumph Gangrena makes in his 3 part Gangrena pag. 1●8 which is that in my Book called Innocency and truth justified which I published the last yeare 1645 I give that to the Lords which now I in 1646 in many wicked Pamplets would take a way from them such new light saith he hath the successe of the new modell and the recruit of the house of Commons brough to the Sectaries Well! will the man stand to this if hee will then I desire the impartiall Reader to judge betwixt us and turne to the 11 12. 36 37. 74 pages of that Book in which pages is contained all that any way makes to his purpose or esle turne to the 157 pag. of his book and see if in all my words there quoted by him there is any thing that carryes the shaddow of giving that to the Lords that now I would take from them for there I am areasoning with Mr Pryn or the House of Commons not upon my principles but their own And therefore I say a Committee of the House of Commons is not the