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A65859	The contentious apostate and his blow refelled [sic] in a brief narrative of the unchristian deportment, opposition, and disturbance made by Francis Bugg, backslider, Isaac Archer, priest or vicar, Samuel Knowles, late curate, at a publick meeting of the people called Quakers held at Milden-Hall in Suffolk the 30th day of the 2d month commonly called April 1691, and in a short answer to F.B. his defaming pamphlet falsely stiled One blow more at new Rome / by G.W.	Whitehead, George, 1636?-1723.	1691 (1691)	Wing W1920; ESTC R27591	23,566	33

Years and Loved one another with Love Vnfeigned and doubtless God blessed our Meetings with the comfortable Enjoyment of his Presence and gave us Favour in the sight of men and not a word of Conformity was heard amongst Us for many Years together nor no Lording over each others Consciences but as every man was perswaded by the Lord so he was frequently Exhorted to walk c. Thus far Fr. Bugg G. W. The Question in Controversy between us is Whether the People called Quakers he Apostate from the Truth or F. Bugg Which may be Resolved from his own Book here since his Conformity he owns the said People to have been once no other than the People of God sound in Doctrin and Practice in Christian Love and Society and that God blessed our Meetings with the Comfortable Enjoyment of his Presence At which time the People called Quakers were Dissenters from the Church and Clergy of England and F. Bugg then with them and he writ then against the Priests and their Covetousness and Oppression c. F. B. I am sorry for that Pr. He is now of another Judgment G. W. When he so writ in the Commendation of the People and Society called Quakers he was turned from them to the Church of England whom he as well as the People called Quakers had Dissented from and when Dissenters were in the Truth according to his own now Confession positive and high Commendation of them from whence I infer That if he himself and the Quakers were once for many years together not Apostates but in the Truth when Dissenters he must needs now be the Apostate in his Conforming to the Church of England contrary to their Practice and Testimony when no Apostates for he cannot be in the Truth now and then too if right or in the Truth then he is not right now if he saith he is right or in the Truth now and not then this is to contradict his own Testimony of the Quakers and himself as having been a Christian Society and the People of God yea and that for many years as he saith so that if right then he cannot be right now as aforesaid being turned from what he was and owned then I would have him Answer and clear himself of this Dilemma if he can But instead of Answering he set to Reading on in his Book for that was much of his shift to evade and take up time in Reading in his own Books and Pamphlets instead of giving fair Answer or civilly Reasoning the Case G. W. Seeing F. B. undertakes not to wind himself out of the Dilemma see if thou that art his Minister can do it for him Pr. Mr. Bugg is now of another Judgment than he was as Paul was when Converted before he thought he might do many things even against the Name of Jesus but he was of another Judgment when Converted G. VV. This instance will not hold parallel with the Case of F. Bugg his is not a Conversion as Pauls was Paul did not say he was in the Truth or a Christian before Converted but F. Bugg as good as saith he and the Society of the Quakers were once the People of God and enjoyed his Comfortable Presence when Dissenters from the Church and Clergy of England but now contrarywise he is turned to them and Conformed and from the Society called Quakers I do not see how either he himself or thou canst clear him or bring him from under the Dilemma Is F. B. of another Judgment concerning the People called Quakers now than he was when he writ this Book in 1686 wherein he highly Commends of the Society called Quakers Pr. He is now of another Judgment G. W. Then he was of two different Judgments since he was Conformed to the Church of England Come F. Bugg what sayst thou Dost thou now disown what thou hast writ in Commendation of the People called Quakers in 1686 F. B. No I own what I then Writ G. W. Then F. Bugg and his Minister contradict each other he is of another Judgment saith the Minister No I am not saith F. B. I own what I writ F. B. The Presence of God may be among other Societies as Presbyterians Independents Anabaptists G. W. By the same rule his Conformity is so indifferent that he may as well joyn with any of those other Societies whom he never so highly commended of as he hath of the People called Quakers his Apostacy is apparent he cannot clear himself of the Dilemma before Rehearsed upon his own Confession which is plain an Argument as to Man from his own Confession which no doubt was from inward Conviction Pr. He 's Apostate from you but not from the Truth G. W. What saith F. B. to it could he be in the Truth both when in Society with the People called Quakers being Dissenters from the Church of England and now in his Conformity thereunto Pr. He Argues Argumentum ad hominem have a care how you Answer him there 's a Snare in it You are now of another Judgment F. B. I am of another Judgment G. W. Art thou of another Judgment than thou wast when thou writ this Book in 1686 concerning thy being a Member of the Society of the Quakers so call'd If so at the same rate F. B. may alter his Judgment every two or three Years and thus he may write Books and contradict them again then what Credit is to be given unto his Books or Scribling against the Quakers The cause of his turning from us as he pretends is that there are Canons or Rules among us required to be observed and he assigns us only two of those Canons First Not to forsake our usual Meetings in times of Persecution 2dly Twice Publication of Marriages before our Mens and Womens Distinct Meetings F. B. They have no Foundation in the Scriptures G. W. Yes but they have 1st Not forsaking the Assembling of your selves together as the manner of some is 2dly The intent and end our Womens Meetings is good and Warrantable by Scripture it is Religious and for the Exercise of a Christian Care with respect to Widows Fatherless Indigent c. And our Proposing Marriages twice to both our Mens and Womens Meetings is that both may Inspect them and see that they be clear and free from all Prae-contracts and have Consent of Parents and Guardians c. This is a Just and Righteous end which I hope you will not deny our Method herein hath been laid before the Civil Government and approved of as Laudable and more safe than the Method of those Priests of the Church of England who Marry persons Clandestinly without the knowledg and consent of Parents where Heiresses are Stoln and Marriages Theevish we have none such among us but due Publication and strict Examination and Approbation before Marriages be Solemnized among us Pr. I am glad you have so much Discipline among you G. W. But F. B. hath opposed it and left us on pretence of

not given for Religion sake but because of some Persons Depravity and Degeneration F. B. knows that some in the Scripture are called both Bulls greedy dumb Dogs ravening Wolves generation of Vipers Serpents evil Beasts Antichrists Reprobates c. And I would ask F. Bugg if he did not Believe the covetous Priests of the World were such when he was in Society with the People called Quakers and owned them both in Doctrin and Practice in their Antient Splendour and Glory as he hath since confest they once were I suppose within that time wherein he walked amongst them for many years I suppose above Twenty and when he himself writ against the said Priests did not he then think that many of them deserved such Characters as before mentioned and in Scripture given to the false Prophets false Shepherds and covetous Watch-men of Israel And it is further observable that those Books mentioned and charged by F. B. as Truths Defence E. B. against Bennet Three-fold Estate of Antichrist and Samuel Fisher's Rusticus were first printed many years ago and in such times as F. B. no doubt owned the People called Quakers to be in their Primitive Purity Splendor and Soundness both in Doctrin and Conversation especially in those many years he walked among them and owned them why did he not tell the World what years those said Books were first printed in which now he has accused that his Inconsistency and Self-contradiction might more plainly have appeared in his commending and condemning a People for things Writ by some of them even when they were so commendably owned and highly approved of by the self same Judge or Person even F. B. He puts a Slight on our Answer to his Pamphlet B. Rams as so impertinent and short of an Answer as not worth Replying to yet thinks it necessary to make some few Observations on it p. 10. I am sure that his Observations are both Impertinent and contain divers Falshoods in a little compass and far short of a Reply As 1st That G. W. will not own our said Answer to his B. Rams only a part of it is a gross Lie divers times Reiterated 2dly That G. F. and E. B. Encourage O. C.'s Army to a Practise they believed was not Lawful i. e. to Fight how proves he this And that they did so Encourage them then in the Present Tense and Future Tense as he saith Did not G. F. say to O. C. Arise and come forth c. But did he say Arise and come forth to Fight Cut and Slash as F. B. confidently inferred and told the Meeting at Mildenhall aforesaid But 't is not needful for me to insist on this point the Matter being sufficiently spoke to and answered in our late Book Entituled Christ's Lambs Defended from Satan's Rage against John Pennyman's envious Invective falsly styled The Quakers Vnmasked 3dly I do not believe that one of our Ministers said to the Court at Barbadoes That if the Spirit of the Lord God in them led them to Fight I had nothing against it or that we Recorded any such thing in our Book of Foreign Letters as F. B. saith I know no such Record nor do I believe it till I see it and if I do we shall disown it as none of our Doctrin nor Principle 4thly F. B. hath another strange Story against S. Fisher viz. That he said he believed or expected that the People called Quakers would be Instrumental by Force with others to turn out or overturn the then Government and that this he spake to Mr. Osgood after the Rising of the Fifth-Monarchy Men and Mr. Pennyman as I am Informed pray ask them if they do not remember it p. 10. Thus far F. Bugg I have shewed Jo. Osgood this Story and asked him about it and his Answer is this viz. I do not remember that S. Fisher spoke them or such words and I do not believe he did and I am not apt to believe he spoke such Words for if he had I should have opposed them Wherefore we have Reason to think this was some forged Story against S. F. who was a peaceable harmless Man and that this Apostate may be ashamed to charge the Dead and the Memories of the Living with old defaming Stories 5thly After he hath pretended his Concern for many called Quakers both of his near Relations and many of the Hearers being honest People as he Confesses but have their Eye too much to such Teachers and Leaders as G. W. and his Brethren c. p. 11. He insinuates a want of Vnion in affection to the present Government and saith not one Epistle not one publick Prayer c. i. e. for King William and Queen Mary which is more than he knows or can demonstrate His envious and unjust Insinuations therein have been already answered in our half Sheet in Print Entituled The Quakers Answer to a Scandalous Libel styled A Letter to the Quakers which he hath since owned by offering to prove what we deny in it B. Rams p. 19. And also in our late Answer to his B. Rams he doth but reiterate the same thing over and over against us and then to colour over his envious and injurious Insinuations against us touching the Government he tells us thus viz. But I will not insist too much upon this point lest you say I expose you and would set the King against you which is not my desire as well as below the dignity of his Person and Station Thus when he hath endeavoured to expose us to all the Reproach and Infamy he can and to render us Disaffected and Obnoxious to the Government he can thus Hypocritically pretend 't is not his desire to set the King against us O false hearted Man What better Tendency is thy envious work of 'T is well 't is below the Dignity of the King's Person and Place to be influenced by the Malice of such Apostates as thy self or by such false and infamous Characters unjustly cast upon us as Disaffected to the Government New Rome Painted Harlots Deluders Deceivers Jesuitical deep Hypocrisie c. And yet thou wouldst be glad we would publickly Address the King and Queen and pray for them publickly and heartily and therein be Example to our Hearers who are honest People p. 11 12. Wherein thy Hypocrisie and Inconsistency against us being set together Runs thus viz. Thou Painted Harlot thou New Rome thou Antichrist Deep Hypocrite Deluder and Deceiver disaffected to the Government c. Pray Publickly and Heartily for King WILLIAM and Queen MARY And is this thy Affection and Friendship to the King and Queen These may evince thy Folly Confusion and Madness against an Innocent People whom thou hast causelesly Deserted and unjustly Defamed We grant 't is our Christian Duty to Pray for all Men for Kings c. But where are all required by Christ or his Apostles to pray for them by Name Or charged as Offenders for not Naming Persons in our Prayers May not we pray

see by this what you would be at you would be at even the old work of Persecution again if there were not some Restraint upon you by Law seeing you take this Advantage of an Omission of a Circumstance in Law thus to Disturb us and put a force upon us pray be so Civil as to let our Meeting be quiet till we have ended Priest Mr. Bugg I would have us with-draw and let them enjoy their Meeting peaceably let us not take the Advantage of the Law against them F. B. I will not suffer them G. VV. shall not Preach here he is a Deceiver now I have him here I will have him answer whether he owns these Books and he shall take the Test too he is Disaffected to the Government G. W. See what a Convert thou hast got of F. B. that thus contradicts his Teacher we are not come hither for Contention nor am I willing now to answer thee F. B. nor to detain the Meeting about thy Brauling or Clamorous Reviling c. I am willing to meet thee and answer thee at any convenient place when our Meeting is over and before any Judicious persons pray let us enjoy our Meeting quietly F. B. Thou art for evading and going into Holes and Corners but I am glad I have got thee here dost thou own this Book and this Book c. holding them in his Hands G. W. I am not willing to answer thee at this present I have something to say to the People and began to Declare but interrupted still F. B. I will not suffer you to Preach here Constable Constable where is your Warrant do your Office take G. VV. away or I 'll Complain of you Constable Pray look upon this Warrant But the Constable appeared wiser than F. B. and not so busie G. W. Pray let us enjoy our Meeting quietly and then we will Answer you F. B. Constable do your Office take him away he will not own his Books which was a Lye he only suspended giving answer at that present G. W. being thus frequently and forcably interrupted when he would have Declared the Truth for a little space sat down in Silence breathing unto the Lord in Spirit and then after a short space was moved to fall down upon his Knees in Prayer for some time Whereupon the Priest thus made interruption to the People viz. Priest All you that are in Communion with me with-draw do not joyn with him in Prayer for he doth not Pray in the Name of Christ which was not true and very unbecoming one that would be esteemed a Reverend Clergy-man and many did not Obey him Prayer ended F. Bugg began Disturbance again saying do you own these Books this and this G. W. What are their Titles F. B. The one is Judgment Fired and the other Innocency against Envy G. W. I know no such Book as Judgment Fired F. B. It is Judgment Fixed G. W. Is not my Name to it F. B. Yes G. VV. What need'st thou question my owning it I own that I Writ most or the greatest part of that Book and shall not disown it and for the other Innocency against Envy I also own it the Errors of the Press excepted and this Answer I give that thou mayst not go away with a Lye and say that I am afraid to own my own Books nor any think that I am afraid to Answer thee for I have Discoursed many Greater and Wiser Men than thou art who have shewn a great deal more Civility than thou hast done F. B's Wife stood up to clear her Conscience being under a great Burthen and Constraint in Testimony against her Husband 's writing Books against Friends c. contrary to Conviction as having expressed some trouble he was in for the same and that if it had not been for Jo. Thrift an abetter of his he had not done what he did saying she should have Burnt all his Papers c. with other Words To which he made little Answer but gave her the Lye openly but many present did believe she spoke Truth and in the fear of God from a necessity laid upon her at that time Priest Mrs. Bugg you should not Discover your Husbands Nakedness and Mr. Bugg you should not Reveal your Secrets to the Wife of your Bosom but you may see the Enemies of a Man are those of his own House c. F. B. after several Reiterations of his gross Lye that G. W. was afraid to own his Books and making a great Clamour and Noise with Reviling Detractions and Personal Reflections G. W. called to the Priest thus viz. Thou that art his Teacher or Minister I pray thee speak to him and teach him to keep within the bounds of common Civility and not to make this Clamour and these scurrilous Detractions and let us come to some matter in Controversy seeing we may not enjoy the intended end of our Meeting quietly Priest Mr. Bugg pray forbear c. F. B. I will not hold my Tongue G. W. See what a Convert thou hast gotten of him he will not be subject to his own Minister Dost thou not think him somewhat Discomposed I desire on passage of his Book for his Conformity may be Read Entituled the Quakers Detected it is that first page how he came to be a Member of our Society Thou hast the Book F. B. I pray thee lend it me a little but he refused to part with it out of his Hand whereupon a Friend present reacht one to us G. W. I desire this one Page may be read in the Meeting which F. B. was very unwilling to Priest Pray let it be read which accordingly was done Which followeth viz. F. B. Q. Detect The first point under Consideration is how I came to be a Member of their Society i. e. of the Quakers In the Beginning they Taught that all Men were Inlightned according to John 1. 9. and that this Light wherewith Christ had Inlightned them was sufficient if obeyed to lead to Salvation and that it was the work of the Ministers of Christ to turn the Peoples minds from Darkness to Light and from the Power of Satan to God Affirming that this Light was a sufficient Teacher Leader and Guide to every Believer without the help of outward Prescriptions Forms Orders and Decrees of Men. Upon these and the like Notions I became perswaded to make Tryal of their Doctrine and when I came to see and observe their Practice Conversations and Deportments in the begining and what simplicity and plainness attended their Ministry I was still more Confirmed that it was a Dispensation of the Love of God sent as a Visitation to Mankind and being thus perswaded I was resolved to bear the Cross and did utterly despise the shame that attended them and their Message and was not behind any of my Equals both in Doing and Suffering for the Testimony thereof as some amongst them can still bear me Witness and in this manner we went on for many

he owned all his Hand or Name was set to Errours of the Press excepted which we take to be a full Answer not only for Judgment Fixed but for all other Books which he hath wrote and subscribed his Name to unto which we subscribe our Names John Mason Joseph Mason Simon Burgis James Burgis Tho. Brewster Hen. Hogans Rob. Hibble Ambr. Friend Geo. Friend Joshua Bangs Edward Firth Tho. Fuller Now to Proceed to F. Bugg's One Blow More HE saith he was resolved to go to the Meeting well Prepared which it seems was with a Constable and Warrant as before obtained by an undue Information as well as Envious against the persons met as being under a great suspicion of Disaffection to the Government That for his offering to meet us to Prove matters of Fact his Challenge he here again renews on a Months notice p. 2. whereby he has Granted that he has not yet proved matters of Fact against us we have his Clamourous Accusations and Charges without Proofs still he 's more loud in 's Charges than in 's Proofs as was publickly told him That F. B. offered G. W. a Paper containing this Charge following offering publickly he saith to prove it which he neither did nor can do 1st That G. VV. is a Deceiver of the People 2dly A false Accuser of the blessed Martyrs charging their Doctrin to be Corrupt tending to Practical Ranterism and thereby siding with the Papists against the Protestants 3dly That he is a favourer or an excuser of such Principles and Practices as border upon Blasphemy and Idolatry G. VV. did and still doth utterly deny these Charges as False Slanderous and Malicious they remain still to prove which F. B's says so doth not 1. Wherein is G. VV. a Deceiver of the People in point of Doctrin or Conversation He utterly and Conscientiously denies the Charge having faithfully served the Lord in good Conscience from his Youth upward and rejoyceth that he is counted worthy to be thus Reproached for Christ Jesus as his Ministers of old were 2 Cor. 6. 8. 2. Wherein doth he accuse the blessed Martyrs and charge their Doctrin to be Corrupt This Charge is General as well as in the Plural What Doctrin agreed upon and generally held by the blessed Martyrs did G. W. ever so Accuse But only F. B's Misapplication of the Words which he saith were Dr. Barnes viz. That all outward works be things indifferent and may be used and also left Pray where did the blessed Martyrs agree upon or hold this Doctrin as stated by our Adversary I am sure 't is neither safe nor sound without some such distinction as all outward works not evil in themselves or not prohibited by the Law of God be things so indifferent as aforesaid 3. His third Charge is as notoriously False and Malicious as the rest The occasion whereof was my only Questioning him about two Letters which he saith were sent to G. F. by J. C. and J. A. How proves he they are theirs as Cited c I do not believe they are as I told him publickly both which shewed my dislike of them as Cited especially the latter besides there 's now more ground to question the Citations since F. B. that varied in his last from his first in several Passages leaving out divers words and he hath not yet proved either of them true I suppose if he hath not forged the said Letters he hath taken them upon Trust as he would have the Reader and us take them from him upon his own Credit and bare Affirmation which is of very little value to us Thus he frequently imposes and commonly refers us to his own Scurrilous and Abusive Pamphlets as if his own Authority and Ipse Dixit must bear down all opposition to his bare and proofless Affirmations That G. W. did not own the Book wholly Entituled Innocency against Envy and refused to own either in part or in the whole his Book Entituled Judgment Fixed are both false for before the Meeting was ended he openly owned both the Errors of the Press excepted though unwilling at first to Answer F. B. to that or any other Question because he desired the Meeting might be kept quiet and free from Contention but could not obtain it because of F. B's Turbulent and Abusive Contention and Clamorous Reviling To prove that G. W. did both refuse to own his Book Judgment Fixed and Answer the Charge before cited F. B. produces this Certificate viz. WE whose Names are under written do Testify That on the 30th of April 1691. George Whitehead did refuse to own his Book Judgment Fixed c. and to Answer to the recited charge which was by Francis Bugg Exhibited against him Isaac Archer Samuel Knowles And Ten more 1. This Certificate is very unfair partial and unjust in both as I could produce many more Witnesses to the Contrary if I should go or send about to get hands for that I did publickly own the said Book Judgment Fixed and the other also that very day and place the Errors of the Press excepted some time before the Meeting was ended as many can Witness That at first I refused for some time to Answer F. B. but refused not to own my said Books or to answer his Charge at a more convenient time which I did before parting but would not presently be forced nor frighted thereunto by his peremptory demands and threats with Constable and Warrant his imperiously imposing upon me I did not think my self bound immediately to Answer at his demand and in his time but took my own time and method to give Answer This is the very truth of the Case 2. That I did not only Answer his said Charge by way of Denial but all the rest of his abusive and proofless Accusations and Clamours in general And my Negation was sufficient whilst his Affirmations were unproved and yet in many things he was answered by such demonstrations as he was not able to refute I had no cause to be Timerous or Cowardly from a Guilty Conscience nor ashamed of S. Cripe in his being concerned with me as F. B. most falsly insinuates p. 2 3. And at length against his abusive Clamours That G. W. was disaffected to the Government Jesuitically siding with the Papists against Protestants c. This proposition was fairly made and urged by me the person abused viz. That seeing F. B. hath thus publickly and highly reproached me touching the Government as disaffected to the same Popish Jesuitical c. I do sincerely offer that if F. B. or any that take his part his Minister or any other hath any thing to charge me with relating to the Civil Government or any Complaint Suggestion or Jealousy against me touching the same according to his said Reproaches if he or they will let me have a Lawful Summons after I am at London to appear before the Secretary of State or any of the Lords of the King and Queen's Council I shall God willing