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A84760 A sober answer to an angry epistle, directed to all the publick teachers in this nation, and prefixed to a book, called (by an antiphrasis) Christs innocency pleaded against the cry of the chief priests. Written in hast by Thomas Speed, once a publick teacher himself, and since revolted from that calling to merchandize, and of late grown a merchant of soules, trading subtilly for the Quakers in Bristoll. Wherein the jesuiticall equivocations and subtle insinuations, whereby he endeavours secretly to infuse the whole venome of Quaking doctrines, into undiscerning readers, are discovered; a catlogue of the true and genuine doctrines of the Quakers is presented, and certaine questions depending between us and them, candidly disputed, / by [brace] Christopher Fowler & Simon Ford, [brace] ministers of the Gospel in Reding, Fowler, Christopher, 1610?-1678.; Ford, Simon, 1619?-1699. 1656 (1656) Wing F1694; Thomason E883_1; ESTC R207293 63,879 81

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a_o word_n we_o suppose_v your_o other_o consequence_n of_o this_o doctrine_n which_o you_o sect._n 48_o mention_n to_o wit_n the_o strip_v the_o magistrate_n of_o his_o title_n of_o honourable_a and_o worshipful_a show_v some_o worse_a blood_n than_o that_o that_o boil_v in_o your_o vein_n against_o the_o poor_a minister_n we_o doubt_v that_o you_o that_o will_v strip_v they_o of_o their_o title_n have_v no_o great_a or_o it_o may_v be_v too_o great_a mind_n to_o their_o office_n for_o sure_o there_o be_v less_o express_a authority_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n for_o christian_a magistracy_n itself_o then_o for_o the_o title_n bestow_v upon_o they_o what_o security_n then_o will_v you_o give_v they_o that_o you_o will_v not_o quarrel_v with_o their_o robe_n and_o mace_n and_o afterward_o with_o their_o office_n as_o well_o as_o with_o their_o title_n we_o read_v of_o most_o excellent_a theophilus_n and_o most_o noble_a festus_n title_n as_o high_a as_o honourable_a and_o worshipful_a 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how_o do_v you_o sir_n into_o latin_a will_v he_o not_o render_v it_o quomodo_n vale_n tu_fw-la it_o seem_v your_o new_a grammar_n will_v correct_v he_o with_o a_o quomodo_n valetis_fw-la vos_fw-la a_o learned_a piece_n of_o pedantry_n be_v you_o so_o silly_a as_o not_o to_o know_v that_o translator_n respect_v the_o usage_n of_o word_n in_o the_o tongue_n they_o make_v use_v of_o if_o the_o translator_n of_o hebrew_n or_o greek_a have_v render_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d by_o you_o as_o well_o as_o thou_o to_o a_o single_a person_n may_v they_o not_o have_v do_v as_o well_o to_o a_o english_a ear_n see_v both_o word_n be_v use_v indifferent_o by_o english_a man_n you_o shall_v not_o be_v ignorant_a of_o the_o old_a rule_n loquendum_fw-la ut_fw-la vulgus_fw-la and_o horace_n if_o you_o have_v read_v he_o tell_v you_o that_o it_o be_v use_n quem_fw-la penes_fw-la arbitrium_fw-la est_fw-la &_o vis_fw-la &_o norma_fw-la loquendi_fw-la that_o word_n be_v to_o be_v regulate_v by_o but_o why_o then_o do_v we_o not_o say_v you_o use_v the_o word_n you_o to_o the_o sect._n 50_o great_a god_n as_o well_o as_o to_o man_n we_o answer_v it_o be_v not_o necessary_a we_o shall_v give_v you_o any_o answer_n hereunto_o but_o that_o you_o have_v receive_v already_o word_n be_v proper_a or_o improper_a as_o use_n make_v they_o and_o yet_o we_o conceive_v we_o well_o vary_v the_o phrase_n to_o god_n upon_o this_o account_n because_o in_o our_o prayer_n we_o address_v ourselves_o to_o god_n in_o the_o unity_n of_o his_o nature_n and_o therefore_o we_o use_v a_o word_n that_o be_v not_o capable_a of_o import_v plurality_n as_o you_o be_v and_n whereas_o you_o add_v last_o that_o the_o rich_a think_v it_o proper_a to_o say_v sect._n 51_o thou_o and_o thou_o to_o a_o poor_a man_n whereas_o we_o condemn_v the_o poor_a man_n for_o say_v thou_n or_o thou_o to_o a_o rich_a man_n we_o answer_v for_o our_o part_n we_o ourselves_o can_v say_v we_o know_v 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of_o most_o or_o all_o the_o prince_n in_o the_o civil_a world_n who_o with_o as_o great_a a_o grammatical_a impropriety_n write_v in_o their_o own_o person_n nos_fw-la and_o we_o instead_o of_o ego_fw-la and_o i_o which_o be_v the_o stile_n of_o ordinary_a person_n and_o we_o suppose_v you_o may_v maintain_v as_o learned_a a_o dispute_n with_o the_o lord_n protector_n about_o nos_n oliverus_n we_o oliver_z as_o you_o do_v with_o mr._n thomas_n p._n 58._o of_o the_o book_n about_o the_o nominative_a case_n and_o the_o verb._n these_o be_v all_o the_o article_n it_o seem_v you_o will_v confess_v against_o sect._n 53_o yourself_o and_o your_o quake_a party_n and_o because_o you_o be_v willing_a to_o flatter_v yourself_o and_o persuade_v your_o reader_n especial_o the_o magistrate_n to_o who_o this_o part_n of_o your_o epistle_n be_v intend_v that_o these_o bloody_a persecutor_n the_o minister_n have_v no_o high_a matter_n to_o charge_v you_o withal_o you_o sing_v io_n triumph_n the_o day_n be_v our_o own_o for_o these_o say_v you_o be_v the_o horrid_a blasphemy_n and_o damnable_a doctrine_n against_o the_o abettor_n of_o which_o you_o do_v at_o this_o day_n discharge_v so_o much_o passion_n and_o rage_n both_o from_o press_n and_o pulpit_n call_v upon_o the_o civil_a power_n for_o bond_n and_o prison_n nay_o fire_n and_o faggot_n against_o all_o those_o who_o fear_v the_o lord_n do_v fear_n to_o call_v darkness_n light_n and_o light_a darkness_n but_o stay_v sir_n we_o have_v some_o other_o matter_n than_o these_o to_o charge_n upon_o your_o generation_n which_o we_o will_v in_o the_o next_o place_n give_v you_o a_o short_a catalogue_n of_o collect_v out_o of_o such_o book_n as_o be_v either_o publish_v by_o yourselves_o or_o just_o charge_v
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