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A41798 Mnemophthoropaiktes, the brainbreakersbreaker, or, The apologie of Thomas Grantham, for his method in teaching dwelling in Lothbury, London. Grantham, Thomas, d. 1664. 1644 (1644) Wing G1558; ESTC R11564 5,891 10

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Gentlemen of England that one maid should goe beyond you all in excellency of learning and knowledge of divers tongues point forth six of the best given Gentlemen of this Court and all they together shew not so much good will spend not so much time bestow not so many houres daily orderly constantly for the increase of learning and knowledge as doth the Queenes Majesty herself Yea I beleeve that besides her perfit readinesse in Latin Italian French and Spanish she readeth heer now at Windsor more Greeke every day th●n some Pro●endary of this Church doth read Latin in a whole weeke And that which is most praise worthy of all within the walls of her privy Chamber shee hath obtained that excellency of learning to understand speak and write both wittily with head and fuire with hand as scarce one or two rare wits in both the Vniversities have in many yeares reached unto Amongst all the benefits that God hath blessed me withall next the knowledge of Christs true Religion I count this the greatest that it pleased God to call mee to bee one poore Minister in setting forward these excellent gifts of learning in this most excellent Prince Looke upon his successe in his second book amongst many others one Whitney a most accomplished Gentleman these are his words I gave him a translation to turne into Latin which he did so ob●●sely so orderly without any great misse in the hardest points of Grammar that some in seven yeares in Grammar Schools yea and some in the Vniversitie too cannot do halfe so well And this perfection hee obtained from Christmas to Alhollantide and this Scholar was altogether Ignorant of the Latin tongue and the rules before Now briefly take some few reasons against this way of saying word by word without book All Arts as Geometry Arithmetick Logick Navigation men attaine to and never learne rule word by word without book and what offence hath Grammar done that it must bee cuft into a boy word by word without book If learning without book word by word bee necessary for the understanding of a thing then it is before a boy understands or after hee understands Now for a boy to learne without book like a Parret that hee understands not is very laborious and ridiculous and to learne without book after hee understands that is to no purpose for the Mr. understanding himselfe the sense of the rule neglects saying word by word without book and whips Scholars for that hee cannot do himselfe If saying without book word by word bee profitable to the understanding then hee that saith best without book understands best but this is false there are many that can say much scripture without book but understand not so well as those that can say none I have had boyes come from common Schools could say all the Grammar word by word without book and yet could not make halfe a line of true Latin and that which is most absurd of all they teach a boy to make Latin by the Latin rules when a boy understands not Latin Just as if a man should teach one an Art in French when he understands not French Then there are many boyes can say without book to their companions or by themselves but the Master strutting with the rod in his hand and his imperious looke and threatning puts a boy cleere out As for a Master to talke thus to a boy Sirra I 'le smoak you I 'le make your buttocks blush I 'le make you feare me These words confound a boy and fright him out of all If a boy bee to say this rule Adjectives that signifie fulnesse emptinesse plenty c. if hee misplace a word although the sense bee the same presently the Master fels him all along whereas some Grammars have the first words last and the last first the sense being still the same Observe Doctor Webbes words in his Appeale to Truth Now if Grammar should be the best course to languages and Kings may have their choyce of best courses I wonder what choice of Grammars was made by Mithridates And that that makes mee wonder more wee that have no businesse but a language spend all our life and are not perfect in one and bee that had a kingdomes affaires to looke unto had two and twenty compleat languages Now if a language cannot bee got but by learning word by word without book then Mithridates who had a kingdomes affaires to look to must learne two and twentie Grammars word by word without book and to learne a Grammar in this manner will take up five yeares to bee compleate in a language as he was will take up at least five yeares more which reckoned makes up two hundred and twenty yeares Now Mithridates lived not a quarter of the time Doctor Webbe in that learned work quotes above one hundred learned men who inveigh bitterly against Grammarians And he undertakes to prove by learned Authors that a language may be learned without a Grammar which needs no proofe at all to men that have common sense How many are there can speak French and Latin that never saw a Grammar many young Gentlemen and Gentlewomen have learned to speake French in halfe a yeare who never knew any Latin Doctor Webb names many Noble men who spake Latin excellent well at five yeares of age having nothing but Latin spoken to them before And I have knowne many who have spoke Latin and French admirable well and understood Greeke very well in a twelve moneth and this is easily done by joyning Doctor Webbs way with Aschams I have boyes that have beene but a yeare at most with me and in these foure points we will contend with any Schoole in England First who understands the Greeke and Latin Grammars best in Accents and Dialects and all things necessary Secondly who understands a Greeke or Latin Author best Thirdly who can prove a Greeke or Latin verse best Fourthly who can make a Greeke or Latin Oration or a Greeke and Latin verse best and soonest And the highest of my Scholars is but thirteene yeares of age and another in my highest Seat is but Ten. Some I have I confesse cannot doe a quarter so much which is no fault of mine for I often tell them if they be carelesse and will not minde and will not learne without cuffing pulling lugging and whipping they must goe to Masters that delight in this way of teaching they may be taught in may places very reasonably this way as for a Noble or seaven shillings a quarter at some free Schooles they may have it for nothing Some Schoolemasters thinke they pay me home when they say I make Scholars unfit for other Schooles truly I confesse it I teach without any correction and they teach with great correction and in this we differ Wee teach to understand the Rules first and they teach to learne without booke first In this we differ Our Scholars understanding the rules and often applying them the rules come without booke whether they will or no Then we differ in severity Some keepe their Scholars so strictly for foure or five houres that they allow them not so much as a mouthfull of fresh ayre not so much as to ease nature I have read and heard many Scholars speake against this severity let a boy bee tyed three or foure houres to that game hee likes best and let him be soundly cuft and whipt when hee doth not play his game well you shall see this boy as weary of his play as his booke and the reason is because of great severity Socrates the wisest man of his time and many who have writ concerning the instruction of youth often say learning must be taught with love and some Scholars I have being thus taught seriously professe they had rather come to Schoole then goe about any pleasure or delight What fruits I have here to shew in London any man may come and see and what fruits I have shewed in other places these subscriptions may testifie A Letter from Master Foucks belonging to Sir Jervis Clifton in Nottinghamshire Good Mr. Grantham I Never thought to have been so happy in this world as you have made mee in little Henry you have created him an Infant-Grecian which is a miracle at London for here they are onely known by their long beards Sir your Letter was delivered to Sir Thomas Hut●hinson hee did promise to examine him but his imployment at the Parliament diverted the businesse I got some others to do it and hee came off with good applause both to you and himself I could not have parted with him so soon but by reason of a journey to the Bath and I durst not trust him in this place of iniquity in my absence Sir Mr. Cliffords going to the Universitie is not yet this three Moneths which I hope will not be the worse for Henry because of his Zachean stature which by that time may bee increased Good Sir except of a poore token from him which can bee no otherwise then your most affectionate Servant London this 6 of June 1642. Ralph Foucks Wee whose names are here subscribed do witnesse that Thomas Grantham Curat of East Neston hath a very ready and credible way of profiting Scholars in learning and although wee fully conceive not his method in teaching yet wee highly commend him in this that his Scholars are able to give a rule out of the Latin and Greek Grammar for every thing they doe William Farmar Knight Baronet Charles Stafford Esquire Ha●● Farmor Esquire Eusehy Wyrley Gent. William Buncher Rector de Tiffield William Curlis Rector de Saxton Thomas Arundel Rector de Stoak Henry Hall Cler. de Easton magna Jo. Barradale Vicar de East Neston John Lockwood Vic de Towester E. Johnson R●ctor de Paules Perry Benjamin Austen Rector de Bradden Guliel Bland Mag. in A●●ihus Guliel Thornton Art 〈◊〉 Tho. Bayley Rector de Col●higham Superiora testor Joseph Bernard FINIS