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A68720 The historie of tithes that is, the practice of payment of them, the positiue laws made for them, the opinions touching the right of them : a review of it is also annext, which both confirmes it and directs in the vse of it / by I. Selden. Selden, John, 1586-1654. 1618 (1618) STC 22172.3; ESTC S117046 313,611 538

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