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A61550 The doctrine of the Trinity and transubstantiation compared as to Scripture, reason, and tradition. The first part in a new dialogue between a Protestant and a papist : wherein an answer is given to the late proofs of the antiquity of transubstantiation in the books called Consensus veterum and Nubes testium, &c. Stillingfleet, Edward, 1635-1699. 1688 (1688) Wing S5589; ESTC R14246 60,900 98

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have heard enough of all Conscience already Pr. I think so too to make you ashamed of your Parallel between the Doctrine of the Trinity and Transubstantiation And methinks for the sake of our common Christianity you should no more venture upon such bold and unreasonable Comparisons Do you in earnest think it is all one whether Men do believe a God or Providence or Heaven or Hell or the Trinity and Incarnation of Christ if they do not believe Transubstantiation We have heard much of late about Old and New Popery but if this be the way of Representing New Popery by exposing the common Articles of Faith it will set the Minds of all good Christians farther from it than ever For upon the very same Grounds we may expect another Parallel between the belief of a God and Transubstantiation the effect of which will be the exposing of all Religion This is a very destructive and mischievous Method of Proceeding but our comfort is that it is very unreasonable as I hope hath fully appeared by this Discourse FINIS Errata omitted in the former Dialogue PAge 10. line 25 dele not 18. l. 2 dele not 14. Marg. l. 8. read 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 In this Dialogue PAge 4. line 5. read viz. the Sacrament 5. l. 19. for done r. due 8. l. 30. for fictitious r. factitious 23. l. 22. r. doubted as well Books Printed for William Rogers THe Doctrines and Practices of the Church of Rome truly Represented in Answer to a Book intituled A Papist Mis-represented and Represented c. Quarto An Answer to a Discourse intituled Papists Protesting against Protestant Popery being a Vindication of Papists not Misrepresented by Protestants and containing a particular Examination of Monsieur de Meaux late Bishop of Condom his Exposition of the Doctrine of the Church of Rome in the Articles of Invocation of Saints and the Worship of Images occasioned by that Discourse Quarto An Answer to the Amicable Accommodation of the Difference between the Representer and Answerer Quarto A View of the whole Controversy between the Representer and the Answerer with an Answer to the Representer's last Reply in which are laid open some of the Methods by which Protestants are Misrepresented by Papists Quarto A Discourse against Transubstantiation in Octavo price 3d. Sermons and Discourses some of which never before printed the third Volume By the Reverend Dr. Tillotson Dean of Canterbury 80. A Manuel for a Christian Soldier Written by Erasmus and Translated into English. Twelves The Doctrine of the Trinity and Transubstantiation compared as to Scripture Reason and Tradition In a new Dialogue between a Protestant and a Papist The first Part. Wherein an Answer is given to the late Proofs of the Antiquity of Transubstantiation in the Books called Consensus Veterum Nubes Testium c. Quarto The Doctrine of the Trinity and Transubstantiation compared as to Scripture Reason and Tradition In a new Dialogue between a Protestant and a Papist The second Part. Wherein the Doctrine of the Trinity is shewed to be agreeable to Scripture and Reason and Transubstantiation repugnant to both Quarto Sicut enim antequam sanctificatur panis panem nominamus divinâ autem illum sanctificante Grati● mediante Sacerdote liberatus est quidem ab appellatione panis dignus autem habitus est Dominici Corporis appellatione etiamsi natura Panis in ipso permansit non duo Corpora sed unum Corpus Filii praedicatur sic hic divina 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 in Graec. Exemplar Ep Bigot id est inundante Corporis Natura unum Filium unam Personam utraque haec fecerunt Papist Misrepresented and Represented 2 Part. ch 3. p. 23. Concil Chalced Act. 5. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Dial. 1. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Dial. 2. Certè Sacramenta quae sumimus Corporis Sanguinis Domini divina res est propter quod per eadem divinae efficimur consortes Naturae tamen esse non desinit substantia vel natura Panis Vini Gelas. in Biblioth Patr. To. 4. Pag. 20. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Ephraem Antioch ap Phot. Cod. 229. Tom. 3. 1. 5. c. 1 6 8 9 10 11. Ap. Facund 1. 8. c. 5. Ap. Canis Antiq Lection To. 4. p. 112 114 127. Epiph. haer 77. Vincent Common Aug. de Haeres c. 55. Concil Chal. ced Act. 1. Theodor. Dial. 1. 2. Nam quando in Terra fuit non erat ubique in Coelo Et nunc quia in Coelo est non est ubique in Terra in tantum non est ut secundum ipsam Carnem Christum spectemus esse venturum de Coelo● quem secundum verbum nobiscum esse credimus in terra Cont. Eutych l. 4. n. 14. Et ubique totum praesentem esse non dubites tanquam Deum in loco aliquo Coeli propter veri Corporis modum Ad Dardan Non enim Corpora sunt quorum amplior sit in tribus quam in singulis magnitudo nec loca suis molibus tenent ut distantibus spatiis simul esse non possint Ad Dardan Secundum praesentiam verò coporalem simul in Sole in Luna in Cruce esse non posset C. Faust. l. 20. c. 11. Et cum in Terra loquitur in Coelo utique nisi per Dei Infinitatem esse non possit De Incarn l. 4. c. 6. Sive ista crassiora sivesubtiliora sed tamen Corpora quorum nullum potest esse ubique totum quoniam per innumerabiles partes aliud alibi habeat necesse est Et quantumcunque sit Corpus seu quantulumcunque corpusculum loci occupet spatium eundemque locum sic impleat ut in nullâ ejus parte sit totum Ad Volusian Quanquam si hoc demas Corporibus quantum mea opinio est neque sentiri possunt neque omnino Corpora esse rectè existimarem De Quant Animae c. 4. Quod per loci spatium aliqua longitudine latitudine altitudine ita sistitur vel movetur ut majore sui parte majorem locum occupet breviore breviorem minusque sit in parte quam in toto Ad Hieron Ep. 166. Non omnino potest esse aliquod Corpus sive Coeleste sive Terrestre sive Aereum sive humidum quod non minus sit in parte quam in toto neque ullo modo possit in loco hujus partis simul habere aliam partem sed aliud hic aliud alibi habens per quaelibet spatia locorum distantia dividua vel potius ut ita dicam sectili more distenditur C. Epist. Manich. c. 16. Omne Corpus locale est omne locale Corpus est 63. Quaest. c. 35. Corpus quodlibet per localia spatia porrectum est 83. Quaest. c. 51. Orat. 34. in Ep ad Cledon Dial. 2. de Trin. Claud. Mamert de Statu Animae l. 1. c. 5 17 18. l. 3. c. 14. Apud Euseb. de Praep. Evangel l. 7. c. 22. Basil. Epist. 43. Isidor Epist. l. 2. Ep. 72. Greg. Nyssen in Hexaem p. 13 De Hom. Opificio c. 24. Aug. Ep. ad Dardanum cont Julian l. 5. c. 9. Isid. Origin l. 2. c. 26. Boeth de Praedic Damascen Dial. c. 1. Alcuin Dial. c. 5 12. Iren. l. 2. c. 14. Apud Phot. Cod. 234. Aug. de Immort Anim. c. 10. Soliloq l. 2. c. 13. De Statu Animo l. 3. c. 3. Iren. l. 3. 20. 5. 7. Tertul. deCarne Christi c. 5. Advers Marc. l. 4. c. 43. l 3. c. 8 11. Epiphan haer 42 64. Hilar. in Psal. 137. Aug. c. Faust. l. 29. c. 2. l. 14. c. 10. 83. Quaest. c. 14. Serm. 238. De Euch. l. 1. c. 14. Cyril Mystag 3 4 5. Catech. 3. Chrysost. in Matt. hom 83. Ambros. de his qui initiantur c. 9. Consensus Veterum p. 21 22 23. Consens Vet. p. 27. Nouvelle Biblioth des Antienes Ecclesiastiques par Ellies du Pin. 1686. P. 22. P. 23. Consens p. 30. Consens Veter p. 30. Nubes Testium p. 109. Tertull. c. Marcion l. 4 c. 40. Apol. 2. P. 31. Iren. l. 4. c. 34. Iren. l. 5. c. 11. Con. Marcion l. 4. c. 40. Con. Marcion l. 3. c. 19. l. 5. c. 8. De Resur c. 8. Strom. 4. Hom. 5. in divers loc Comment in Matth. 15. Cypr. de lapsis Epist. 63. N. 6. Nubes Testium p. 120. c. Consens Vet. p. 54 c. Disp. 53. Sect. 4 De Euch. l. 1. c. 2. Hom. 83. in Mat. Hom. 51. in Mat. In Heb. Hom. 14. In Rom. Hom. 8. Ad Pop. Antioch Hom. 15. De Sacerd. l. 3. In Joh. Hom. 45. Hom. in Gal. c. 5. Hom. de Resur To. 5. Hom. 46. in Joh. Hom. 28. in 1. Ep. ad Corinth Hom. 24. in 1. ad Corinth Hom. 22. in Hebr. Hom. de Poenit To. 6. P. 56. Eucholog p. 77. Greg. Nyssen Orat. Catech. 37. Nubes Testium p. 124. Tertul de Resur carn c. 37. Orig. hom 7. in Levit. Ambros. de his qui initiantur c. 9. C. 3. De Sacram. l. 5. c. 4. Rom. 1. 21 23 24. 1 Cor. 10. 7 14. 1 Joh. 5. 21. Bell. de Christo l. 1. c. 4 c. Bell. de Euch. l. 3. c 19. Cap. 23.