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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A60564	The Quaker disarm'd, or, A true relation of a late publick dispute held at Cambridge by three eminent Quakers against one scholar of Cambridge ; with a letter in defence of the ministry and against lay-preachers ; also several quæries proposed to the Quakers to be answered if they can.	Smith, Thomas, 1623 or 4-1661.; Whitehead, George, 1636?-1723.; Allen, William, d. 1686.; Fox, George, 1624-1691.	1659 (1659)	Wing S4227; ESTC R18877	22,488	24

Fox and all the rest here stood silent S. Well beloved from this very text that he hath brought to prove he is no Heretick I will demonstrate which I am sorry that I must do but you see he thrusts me upon it that this man is the most damnable Heretick that ever was in the world and that since this Epistle was first writ 't was never so litterally and plainly fulfill'd in any person as in him this day Here the people fecht a deep sigh Hear the words again the two first Verses There were false prophets also c. I begin my Argument from those very words you inlisted on even denying the Lord that bought them the worst of Hereticks He that writ this book Ishmael c. even denyes the Lord that bought him You writ this book Therefore you even deny the Lord that bought you W. I deny the major S. I 'll read a few lines of it and then prove my major you write this against Mr. Townsend Minister of Norwich In your second page are these words Christopher Atkinson Iames Lancaster George Whitehead and Tho. Simonds now in Norwich Goal for their errors and miscarriages Thee Priest Townsend thou Dreamer thou Deceiver Witch O thou blinde Guide thou enemie of God without Christ and his knowledge and in Antichrist W Is the word Witch there S. Thou wouldst bewitch the people with thy lies p. 3. After these and many more such good words he comes p. 10. to speak against the B. Trinity and hath this passage p. 10. The Three Persons thou dreamest of speaking to Mr. T. which thou wouldest divide out of one like a conjurer are all denyed and thou shut up with them in perpetual darkness for the lake and the pit Here the multitude held up their hands and cryed God bless us S. See here he saith that he who asserts the three Persons in the ever blessed Trinity is a dreamer and a conjurer and that that man shall be damned with that Trinity Fox We do not deny God therefore we are no Hereticks Atheists deny God therefore they are Hereticks S. This man will be opponent again Atheists are no Hereticks F. Are not Atheists Hereticks S. No Atheists are worse then Hereticks but they are not Hereticks From these words in Whiteheads book now read I argue thus He who denies the three persons in the B. Trinity and calls him dreamer and conjurer who asserts them saying that a man who saith there be three persons in the Trinity shall be shut up with them in perpetuall darkness for the lake and the pit that man is an Heretick even denying the Lord that bought him But you G. Whitehead deny the three persons in the blessed Trinity c. Fox Here made very long discourse against the Trinity S. Beloved you see I let him speak all he can say I do not disturb them in their speaking as they do me I am willing to hear him or any of them speak all they can for themselves but I confess it grieves me to hear them speak against the B. Trinity and I had far rather hear them talk of somewhat else then make declamations against Almighty God I answer That nothing of this your speech is to the purpose What do you answer to the argument I repeat it again He who denies c. Fox run on in another discourse against the three persons S. I came not hither to hear you to repeat a deall of stuff out of Paul Beast who writ against the Trinity I came hither to dispute If you l answer my argument do If not say you cannot F. Prove that there be three persons S. I will F. But prove it out of Scripture S. I will so 1 Iohn 5.7 There be three that bare record in Heaven the Father the Word and the Spirit and these three are one F. Prove that there be three Persons S. I will Allen Prove them to be three Persons plainly without Logicall termes and vain Philosophy that we may all understand thee S. I will if the Father Son and H. Ghost be three hee s then they are three Persons but they are three hees F. What do you mean by three hee s S. Three things that may be pointed at he and he and he F. I do not like that argument S. I would fain give you an argument that you should like are you three Persons who dispute against me this day or are you not F. Yea we are three Persons t is plain S. Give me now any argument that pleaseth you to prove it and by the very same argument I le prove that there be three Persons in the B. Trinity F. We are in three places and therefore three Persons S. The Father Son and H. Ghost have been in three places and therefore are three Persons At the baptisme of Christ while Jesus came up the H. Ghost came down in the same moment one ascended out of the water the other descended to the water Matt. 3.16 17. And Jesus when he was baptized went up straightway out of the water and loe the Heavens were opened unto him and he saw the H. Spirit of God descending like a Dove and lighting upon him And loe a voice from heaven saying this is my beloved Son in whom I am well pleased In this verse is mention of God the Father in heaven God the Son coming out of the water and the H. Ghost descending on this side Heaven like a Dove F. Prove there were three persons S. I do it thus If Christ was coming up out of the water while the H. Ghost was coming down to the water then they were in severall places but Christ was coming up out of the waters while the H. Ghost was coming down to the water Therefore they were in severall places F. They have not flesh and bones as we have S. What then I did not promise to prove them to be men or you to be Angels or Gods but them to be Persons like you only in personality F. Persons have flesh and blood as you see we have S. I prove that all Persons have not flesh and blood If God should send this day three Angels from Heaven to prove the truth of Christian Religion against you who deny it and one of them should stand at one end of your meeting house another at the other end and a third in the midst preaching Would you not say that these three Angels were three Persons Yet they have not flesh and blood Speak would you say they are three Persons or would you not All stood mute at length one of them said that Angels are not Persons S. Till me what you mean by a person and I le prove that Angels are persons F. A person is a subsistence We three are three different susistences S. So are the Father Son and H. Ghost if they were in different places they must needs be different subsistences You see my argument stands firm notwithstanding your objection I pass to another