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A12484 Of the author and substance of the protestant church and religion two bookes. Written first in Latin by R.S. Doctour of Diuinity, and now reuiewed by the author, and translated into English by VV. Bas.; De auctore et essentia Protestanticae Ecclesiae et religionis libri duo. English Smith, Richard, 1566-1655.; Bas., W. 1621 (1621) STC 22812; ESTC S117611 239,031 514

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although_o it_o be_v true_a that_o the_o popish_a ministry_n be_v deprave_a with_o sundry_a tradition_n and_o devise_n of_o man_n yet_o have_v it_o those_o thing_n which_o be_v necessary_a to_o salvation_n bucer_n in_o rom._n 8._o pag._n 427._o tell_v we_o by_o what_o authority_n and_o right_n he_o preach_v protestantisme_n say_v i_o have_v by_o lawful_a mean_n already_o attain_a the_o charge_n to_o preach_v christ_n and_o to_o teach_v those_o thing_n which_o he_o command_v junius_n lib._n singulari_fw-la de_fw-la eccle_n cap._n 17_o god_n call_v the_o church_n wherein_o popery_n reign_v by_o his_o spirit_n by_o his_o word_n by_o the_o public_a instrument_n of_o that_o holy_a marriage_n by_o the_o ministry_n by_o sacred_a affair_n &_o action_n on_o god_n part_n these_o thing_n be_v apparent_o in_o that_o church_n plessy_a lib._n de_fw-fr eccles_n cap._n 11._o p._n 361._o the_o vocation_n of_o our_o man_n be_v the_o same_o that_o they_o the_o papist_n boast_v of_o pag._n 362_o our_o adversary_n and_o our_o first_o minister_n have_v the_o same_o ecclesiastical_a call_n boysseul_n in_o confutat_fw-la spondaei_n pag._n 486_o it_o be_v no_o reproach_n for_o our_o pastor_n to_o have_v issue_v out_o of_o you_o or_o as_o you_o say_v to_o have_v have_v their_o vocation_n from_o you_o moulins_n lib._n 1._o de_fw-la vocat_fw-la cap._n 5._o pag._n 20._o endeavour_v to_o uphold_v the_o call_n of_o their_o first_o reformer_n say_v they_o have_v that_o calling_n which_o be_v ordinary_a in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n pa._n 21_o they_o have_v their_o call_n of_o the_o pope_n cap._n 9_o pag._n 36_o they_o have_v the_o same_o ordinary_a call_n which_o our_o adversary_n have_v and_o lib._n 2._o tract_n 1._o cap._n 1._o pag._n 172_o the_o calling_n they_o have_v in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n suffice_v to_o bind_v they_o to_o preach_v and_o pag._n 173_o their_o commission_n be_v no_o other_o than_o the_o ordinary_a charge_n seravia_n in_o defen_n grad_n minist_n cap._n 2._o pag._n 31._o we_o ought_v not_o to_o think_v that_o in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n ecclesiastical_a ministry_n be_v decay_v and_o pag._n 33_o i_o like_v not_o their_o forwardness_n who_o acknowledge_v no_o ministry_n in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n but_o deem_v all_o that_o be_v there_o devilish_a ibid_fw-la beza_n do_v exagitate_v popish_a order_n over_o much_o wherein_o i_o fear_v lest_o he_o prejudice_n a_o good_a cause_n d._n whitaker_n contr_n 4._o quest_n 5._o cap._n 3._o pag._n 682_o the_o papist_n have_v some_o sort_n of_o ministry_n and_o some_o preach_n of_o the_o word_n which_o doubtless_o avail_v many_o to_o salvation_n and_o other_o where_o as_o be_v before_o cite_v among_o the_o papist_n there_o be_v the_o key_n the_o office_n of_o preach_v etc._n etc._n m._n bell_n in_o his_o first_o book_n of_o the_o pope_n funeral_n cap._n
man_n sonis_fw-la respon_n ad_fw-la spondeum_fw-la c._n 10._o pag._n 365._o heretic_n be_v within_o the_o church_n lubbert_n lib._n 2._o de_fw-fr eccles_n cap._n 3_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o heretic_n be_v some_o as_o yet_o in_o the_o visible_a church_n some_o also_o in_o the_o church_n of_o the_o elect_a junius_n lib._n 3._o de_fw-fr eccles_n cap._n 4_o heretic_n absolute_o be_v of_o the_o church_n unless_o they_o be_v such_o as_o overthrow_v fundamental_a article_n of_o religion_n ●●_o cap._n 3_o n._n ●●_o bullinger_n teach_v the_o same_o decad._n 2._o serm_n 8._o and_o it_o be_v the_o common_a doctrine_n of_o the_o protestant_n who_o as_o be_v before_o prove_v exclude_v none_o from_o be_v member_n of_o their_o church_n that_o deny_v only_o such_o article_n as_o be_v not_o fundamental_a howbeit_o some_o of_o they_o upon_o heretical_a privilege_n as_o tertullian_n speak_v will_v not_o have_v such_o call_v heretic_n ●5_n lib._n de_fw-fr carne_fw-la co●isti_fw-la cap._n ●5_n be_v indeed_o more_o ashamed_a of_o the_o name_n then_o of_o the_o thing_n itself_o zanchius_n likewise_o lib._n 1._o epist_n ad_fw-la dudit_fw-la pag._n 150._o say_v that_o heretical_a and_o schismatical_a sect_n be_v within_o the_o church_n tilenus_n in_o syntag._n disput_fw-la 14_o heretic_n even_o those_o that_o subvert_v the_o foundation_n and_o schismatic_o in_o regard_n of_o outward_a communion_n be_v in_o the_o church_n till_o either_o of_o themselves_o they_o go_v to_o the_o enemy_n side_n or_o be_v cast_v out_o by_o the_o lawful_a judgement_n of_o the_o church_n and_o d._n feild_n in_o his_o first_o book_n of_o the_o church_n cap_n 14_o see_v god_n give_v the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n and_o the_o dispensation_n of_o his_o word_n and_o sacrament_n only_o to_o his_o church_n if_o heretic_n be_v not_o of_o the_o church_n they_o do_v not_o then_o baptize_v and_o cap._n 7_o they_o that_o be_v partaker_n of_o the_o heavenly_a call_n and_o sanctify_v by_o the_o profession_n of_o divine_a truth_n and_o the_o use_n of_o the_o mean_n of_o salvation_n be_v of_o very_o diverse_a sort_n as_o heretic_n schismatik_n hypocrite_n and_o those_o that_o profess_v the_o whole_a save_a truth_n in_o unity_n and_o sincerity_n of_o a_o good_a and_o sanctify_a heart_n all_o these_o be_v partaker_n of_o the_o heavenly_a call_n and_o sanctify_v by_o the_o profession_n of_o truth_n and_o consequent_o be_v all_o in_o some_o degree_n and_o sort_n of_o that_o society_n of_o man_n who_o god_n call_v out_o unto_o himself_o &_o separate_v from_o infidel_n which_o be_v right_o name_v the_o church_n d._n whitaker_n contr_n 4._o quest_n 5._o c._n 3._o pag_n 679_o all_o heretic_n be_v within_o the_o church_n hooker_n in_o his_o 3._o book_n of_o ecclesiastical_a policy_n pag._n 128_o we_o must_v acknowledge_v even_o heretic_n themselves_o to_o be_v though_o a_o maim_a part_n yet_o a_o part_n of_o a_o visible_a church_n again_o if_o a_o infidel_n shall_v pursue_v to_o death_n a_o heretic_n profess_v christianity_n only_o for_o christian_a procession_n sake_n can_v we_o deny_v unto_o he_o the_o honour_n of_o martyrdom_n by_o which_o word_n it_o be_v plain_a that_o they_o admit_v heretic_n not_o only_o into_o the_o visible_a church_n but_o into_o the_o invisible_a also_o or_o company_n of_o the_o elect_a and_o predestinate_a to_o salvation_n and_o d._n andrews_n in_o his_o answer_n to_o bellarmine_n apology_n cap._n 5._o pag._n 121._o deny_v that_o the_o word_n catholic_a and_o heretic_n be_v opposite_a wherefore_o unless_o he_o will_v debar_v and_o shut_v out_o some_o catholics_n from_o the_o church_n he_o must_v needs_o give_v admittance_n to_o heretic_n see_v by_o his_o own_o verdict_n they_o may_v be_v catholik_o d._n white_a in_o defence_n of_o his_o way_n cap._n 38._o pag._n 367_o the_o second_o sort_n of_o the_o militant_a church_n be_v hypocrite_n and_o unsound_a member_n that_o be_v not_o call_v effectual_o but_o disobey_v the_o truth_n whereof_o they_o make_v profession_n such_o be_v heretic_n schismatic_o etc._n etc._n touch_v their_o acceptation_n of_o schismatik_n beside_o what_o have_v be_v already_o allege_v d._n feild_n in_o his_o first_o book_n of_o the_o church_n cap._n 13._o write_v thus_o schismatik_n they_o challenge_v schismatik_n the_o departure_n of_o schismatic_o be_v not_o such_o but_o that_o notwithstanding_o their_o schism_n they_o be_v and_o remain_v part_n of_o the_o church_n of_o god_n junius_n in_o the_o place_n before_o quote_v lay_v claim_n to_o those_o schismatic_n who_o say_v he_o sever_v not_o themselves_o from_o the_o whole_a church_n but_o only_o from_o a_o part_n thereof_o but_o d._n morto●_n in_o the_o 1._o part_n of_o his_o apology_n lib._n 1._o cap._n 2._o say_v absolute_o without_o any_o acception_n or_o restraint_n at_o all_o schismatik_n be_v of_o the_o church_n and_o lib._n 2._o cap._n 10._o pag._n 288_o variance_n say_v he_o and_o schism_n do_v not_o betoken_v the_o false_a church_n and_o d._n willet_n in_o his_o synopsis_n cont_n 2._o quest_n 3._o pag._n 104_o we_o say_v that_o schismatik_n though_o they_o hold_v some_o false_a point_n of_o doctrine_n yet_o if_o their_o error_n be_v not_o fundamental_a and_o if_o they_o retain_v the_o purity_n of_o doctrine_n in_o all_o point_v necessary_a to_o salvation_n and_o the_o administration_n of_o the_o sacrament_n may_v make_v a_o particular_a church_n by_o themselves_o these_o be_v their_o acknowledgement_n touch_v heretic_n and_o schismatic_n in_o general_n grecian_n they_o acknowledge_v the_o grecian_n let_v we_o now_o descend_v to_o particularity_n and_o see_v the_o courteous_a admission_n they_o give_v to_o some_o of_o they_o by_o name_n 8._o the_o grecian_n and_o other_o eastern_a schismatik_n yea_o heretic_n to_o for_o the_o most_o part_n find_v that_o favour_n at_o their_o hand_n as_o they_o vouchsafe_v to_o account_v they_o member_n of_o their_o church_n his_o majesty_n epist_n ad_fw-la card._n peron_n pa._n 13_o have_v thus_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n greece_n antioch_n egypt_n aethiopia_n muscovy_n and_o other_o more_o be_v member_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n d._n whi●e_v in_o defence_n of_o his_o way_n c._n 37._o pag._n 355_o the_o visible_a church_n of_o greece_n aethiope_n armenia_n and_o rome_n with_o the_o nation_n contain_v therein_o have_v in_o they_o the_o true_a church_n of_o god_n wherein_o man_n may_v be_v save_v d._n morton_n in_o his_o answer_n to_o the_o protestant_n apology_n lib._n 4._o cap._n 2._o sect_n 7._o say_v that_o the_o assyrian_a church_n keep_v the_o true_a foundation_n of_o christian_a faith_n the_o same_o especial_o of_o the_o grecian_n teach_v luther_n tom_n 2._o lib._n de_fw-fr captiu_fw-la babylon_n fol._n 65._o &_o in_o assert_v art_n 37._o fol._n 114._o innius_n cont_n 4_o lib._n 4._o cap._n 6._o sedeel_n respon_n ad_fw-la thes_n posnan_n cap._n 12._o d._n whitaker_n l●b_n 7._o cont_n duraeum_n sect_n 3._o bucanus_n loco_fw-la 41._o quest_n 5_o d._n feild_n lib._n 3._o de_fw-fr eccles_n cap._n 5._o &_o 28._o d._n fulke_o de_fw-fr success_n pag._n 120._o burhill_n pro_fw-la tortura_fw-la torti_n c._n 15._o and_o other_o 9_o and_o sometime_o they_o be_v not_o less_o freeharted_n towards_o western_a heretic_n melancthon_n in_o locis_fw-la à_fw-it maulio_fw-it editi●tit_fw-la de_fw-fr eccles_n pag._n 491._o write_v that_o two_o girl_n who_o be_v burn_v as_o he_o say_v for_o anabaptisme_n anabaptist_n they_o challenge_v the_o anabaptist_n hold_v the_o foundation_n of_o say_v and_o die_v in_o a_o good_a confession_n and_o zuinglius_fw-la tom_n 2._o lib._n the_o author_n sedit_fw-la fol._n 134._o &_o seq_fw-la exhort_v his_o fellower_n not_o to_o revolt_v from_o his_o doctrine_n for_o the_o debate_n and_o quarrel_n between_o the_o protestant_n and_o the_o anabaptist_n call_v both_o part_n most_o learned_a and_o son_n of_o the_o same_o father_n neither_o must_v thou_o say_v he_o give_v any_o man_n way_n to_o shake_v and_o weake●_n thy_o say_v although_o thou_o see_v that_o man_n of_o the_o great_a learning_n move_v dispute_n and_o fall_v by_o the_o care_n with_o much_o eagerness_n of_o contention_n touch_v external_a matter_n he_o mean_v baptism_n but_o let_v this_o be_v rather_o thy_o steadfast_a persuasion_n that_o by_o the_o son_n of_o god_n we_o be_v all_o make_v son_n of_o the_o same_o father_n again_o neither_o be_o i_o wont_a to_o speak_v these_o thing_n for_o that_o i_o be_o so_o great_o move_v with_o the_o baptism_n of_o child_n and_o ibidem_fw-la lib._n de_fw-fr baptismo_fw-la fol._n 96._o he_o say_v that_o baptism_n be_v a_o matter_n of_o ceremony_n which_o the_o church_n may_v omit_v or_o take_v quite_o away_o oecolampadius_n in_o his_o 2._o book_n of_o epistle_n p._n 363._o say_v baptism_n be_v a_o external_a thing_n which_o by_o the_o law_n of_o charity_n may_v be_v dispense_v withal_o and_o musculus_fw-la in_o locis_fw-la do_fw-mi de_fw-fr haeresi_fw-la pag._n 605._o reckon_v the_o anabaptist_n among_o those_o who_o
say_v he_o keep_v the_o foundation_n of_o faith_n about_o secondary_a matter_n have_v fall_v into_o misbelief_n and_o bucanus_n loc_fw-la 41._o de_fw-fr eccles_n quest_n 5._o avouch_v plain_o that_o anabaptist_n be_v a_o church_n like_a as_o a_o man_n attaint_v with_o leprosy_n or_o out_o of_o his_o wit_n be_v a_o man_n hi●_n majesty_n epist_n ad_fw-la card._n peron_n pag._n 25._o say_v some_o reckon_v baptism_n among_o those_o thing_n which_o whether_o we_o have_v or_o want_v the_o matter_n be_v not_o great_a and_o d._n whitaker_n count_v 4._o quest_n 7._o cap._n 2._o pag._n 716._o say_v we_o may_v abstain_v from_o baptism_n so_o there_o be_v no_o contempt_n and_o scandal_n in_o the_o fact_n final_o d._n morton_n in_o his_o answer_n to_o the_o protestant_n apology_n lib._n 4._o albeit_o in_o the_o 6._o chapter_n he_o make_v a_o doubt_n whether_o anabaptist_n retain_v and_o hold_v the_o foundation_n yet_o in_o the_o 2._o cap._n sect_n 10._o speak_v thus_o the_o anabaptist_n exclude_v 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that_o erasmus_n think_v the_o same_o of_o religion_n that_o we_o do_v and_o yet_o erasmus_n himself_o lib._n 16._o epist_n 11._o profess_v that_o he_o acknowledge_v not_o luther_n and_o impugn_v open_o both_o him_z and_o his_o doctrine_n and_o as_o amidorfius_n write_v in_o epist_n apud_fw-la lutherum_n tom_n 2._o fol._n 487._o the_o sum_n of_o erasmus_n doctrine_n be_v this_o that_o luther_n doctrine_n be_v heresy_n o_o though_o brunsfelsius_n in_o his_o answer_n to_o erasmus_n sponge_n layth_v these_o thing_n to_o his_o charge_n thou_o make_v protestation_n never_o to_o have_v conversation_n or_o fellowship_n with_o those_o man_n who_o embrace_v the_o gospel_n under_o luther_n name_n again_o it_o be_v well_o know_v and_o confess_v that_o of_o so_o many_o enemy_n of_o the_o protestant_n gospel_n no_o one_o ever_o do_v it_o more_o harm_n than_o thou_o hutterus_n in_o expostulat_fw-la hospin_n part_n 2._o histor_n fol._n 72._o james_n andrew_n lib._n cont_n hosium_n p._n 110_o d._n james_n l._n the_o corrupt_a scripturae_fw-la &_o patrum_fw-la pag._n 66._o and_o other_o say_v the_o like_a of_o he_o d._n humphrey_n ad_fw-la rat._n 3._o campiani_n will_v have_v king_n henry_n 8._o to_o have_v be_v a_o member_n of_o their_o church_n d._n fulke_o lib._n cont_n heskin_n &_o saunder_n sect_n 82._o say_v he_o be_v a_o member_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n of_o christ_n and_o d._n andrews_n in_o resp_n ad_fw-la apoll._n bellarm._n cap._n 1._o say_v he_o be_v a_o true_a defender_n of_o the_o true_a say_v bucer_n epist_n dedicat_fw-la comment_fw-fr ad_fw-la rom_n he_o embrace_v the_o pure_a gospel_n of_o christ_n reject_v those_o forgery_n of_o man_n which_o be_v repugnant_a to_o it_o and_o yet_o it_o be_v most_o certain_a that_o he_o sharp_o persecute_v and_o pursue_v protestant_n even_o unto_o death_n and_o as_o melancthon_n write_v to_o he_o in_o epist_n tom_fw-mi 4_o he_o oppress_v the_o truth_n then_o appear_v and_o show_v itself_o and_o as_o cambden_n say_v in_o apparatu_fw-la annalium_fw-la anglie_o protestant_n he_o burn_v for_o heretic_n of_o charles_n 5._o scultetus_n in_o conc._n secular_a pag._n 10._o write_v thus_o it_o be_v know_v by_o undoubted_a demonstration_n that_o charles_n 5._o depart_v this_o life_n trust_v to_o the_o same_o comfort_n an●_n the_o same_o say_v which_o luther_n draw_v from_o the_o sacred_a welspring_n and_o broach_v to_o the_o people_n james_n andrews_n lib._n cont_n hosium_n pag._n 233._o have_v the_o like_a and_o yet_o in_o the_o same_o sermon_n p._n 27._o he_o say_v to_o this_o alone_a he_o bend_v his_o whole_a endeavour_n that_o he_o may_v pluck_v up_o the_o lutheran_n religion_n by_o the_o root_n m_o dove_n in_o his_o book_n of_o recusancy_n will_v needs_o persuade_v we_o that_o bellarmine_n himself_o be_v a_o protestant_n or_o at_o least_o not_o right_a papist_n what_o marvel_n be_v it_o if_o these_o man_n be_v so_o hardy_a as_o to_o challenge_v the_o ancient_a father_n see_v they_o be_v not_o ashamed_a to_o claim_v in_o this_o manner_n their_o profess_a enemy_n such_o as_o be_v know_v to_o all_o the_o world_n and_o be_v yet_o alive_a that_o protestant_n sometime_o acknowledge_v idolater_n infidel_n antichrist_n himself_o and_o atheist_n to_o be_v member_n of_o their_o church_n chap._n iu._n 1._o that_o they_o sometime_o confess_v idolater_n be_v member_n of_o their_o church_n idolater_n protestant_n challenge_v idolater_n be_v evident_a first_o for_o that_o they_o refuse_v not_o to_o receive_v papist_n as_o we_o have_v hear_v before_o in_o exclamation_n and_o outcry_n against_o who_o idolatry_n their_o tongue_n and_o pen_n be_v set_v most_o a_o work_n for_o to_o their_o worship_n of_o the_o eucharist_n of_o saint_n of_o image_n of_o relic_n they_o afford_v no_o mild_a name_n and_o second_o it_o appear_v by_o their_o own_o word_n for_o m._n hooker_n in_o his_o 3._o book_n of_o ecclesiastical_a policy_n pag._n 126._o say_v christian_n
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his_o denial_n and_o vorstins_n in_o his_o antibellarm_n pag._n 464_o it_o be_v enough_o for_o the_o denier_n probable_o to_o deny_v wherefore_o in_o these_o kind_n of_o question_n protestant_n ought_v to_o be_v urge_v to_o perform_v their_o part_n that_o be_v to_o prove_v what_o they_o affirm_v to_o wit_n that_o before_o luther_n time_n their_o church_n be_v have_v pastor_n and_o the_o like_a which_o if_o they_o can_v do_v they_o must_v needs_o confess_v that_o in_o this_o debate_n they_o have_v lose_v their_o cause_n and_o they_o ought_v not_o to_o press_v we_o to_o prove_v that_o before_o luther_n their_o church_n be_v not_o have_v not_o pastor_n etc._n etc._n because_o as_o i_o say_v herein_o we_o be_v only_o the_o defender_n and_o denier_n 473._o tom._n 1._o foe_n 389._o 473._o and_o therefore_o it_o suffice_v for_o we_o to_o show_v that_o no_o reason_n which_o the_o protestant_n allege_v convince_v a_o reasonable_a man_n to_o believe_v that_o there_o be_v any_o such_o church_n 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that_o be_v to_o be_v iustify_v by_o good_a work_n for_o thus_o say_v luther_n of_o they_o in_o his_o table-talkes_a chap._n of_o suermer_n the_o waldense_n be_v holy_a workman_n and_o believe_v not_o that_o say_v without_o work_n do_v justify_v and_o know_v nothing_o at_o all_o of_o imputative_a justice_n 8._o cocciu●_n 10.1_o lib._n 8._o and_o bennet_n morgenstern_n in_o his_o treatise_n of_o the_o church_n p._n 1●4_n speak_v thus_o unto_o they_o you_o confirm_v the_o doctrine_n of_o antichrist_n touch_v good_a work_n justification_n etc._n etc._n and_o themselves_o in_o their_o apology_n print_v at_o hanow_n together_o with_o the_o history_n of_o bohemia_n pag._n 256._o plain_o show_v that_o they_o believe_v a_o man_n to_o be_v justify_v by_o faith_n charity_n hope_v penance_n and_o work_n of_o mercy_n and_o do_v say_v that_o devout_a prayer_n do_v purge_v and_o penance_n cleanse_v a_o man_n 4._o three_o the_o waldense_n be_v condemn_v of_o protestant_n both_o lutheran_n and_o sacramentary_n melancthon_n in_o his_o counsel_n part_v 2._o pag._n 152._o write_v 418._o see_v refut_n orthod_n consensus_fw-la pag._n 418._o i_o rejoice_v that_o you_o agree_v with_o we_o in_o the_o sum_n of_o doctrine_n i_o know_v the_o waldense_n be_v unlike_a and_o in_o carrion_n chronicle_n print_v at_o paris_n 1357._o he_o say_v that_o they_o sow_v error_n deny_v all_o oath_n and_o all_o form_n of_o prayer_n beside_o the_o lord_n prayer_n morgenstern_n in_o his_o forname_v book_n pag._n 79._o give_v this_o verdict_n of_o they_o they_o have_v proud_o neglect_v the_o light_n of_o doctrine_n which_o be_v kindle_v from_o heaven_n in_o this_o age_n &_o have_v with_o tooth_n and_o na●le_n by_o write_v among_o their_o own_o man_n secret_o defend_v those_o most_o gross_a erro_n which_o in_o the_o year_n 1523._o be_v discover_v by_o luther_n beside_o selnecer_n as_o he_o report_v affirm_v that_o they_o have_v gross_a error_n and_o such_o as_o be_v not_o to_o be_v bear_v withal_o leonicus_n antisturmius_n also_o in_o danaeus_n in_o his_o answer_n to_o his_o sonde_n pag._n 1516._o pronounce_v they_o to_o be_v impious_a and_o schusselburg_n in_o his_o 3._o t●me_n of_o the_o catalogue_n of_o heretic_n pag_n 188._o reject_v they_o as_o heretic_n camerarius_fw-la in_o his_o book_n of_o the_o church_n in_o bohemia_n poland_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 273._o write_v thus_o we_o can_v say_v that_o the_o waldense_n be_v never_o one_o with_o our_o church_n nor_o our_o man_n will_v ever_o join_v themselves_o to_o they_o whereof_o he_o give_v these_o two_o reason_n because_o the_o waldense_n will_v not_o have_v extant_a any_o public_a declaration_n of_o their_o faith_n and_o for_o peace_n sake_n do_v use_v the_o popish_a mass_n for_o these_o two_o cause_n say_v he_o our_o man_n do_v not_o join_v themselves_o to_o they_o neither_o do_v they_o think_v that_o they_o can_v so_o do_v with_o good_a conscience_n caluin_n also_o epist_n 278._o thus_o write_v to_o the_o waldense_n themselves_o we_o abide_v in_o one_o opinion_n that_o the_o form_n of_o your_o confession_n can_v be_v absolute_o admit_v without_o danger_n and_o m._n jewel_n also_o in_o defence_n of_o the_o apology_n part_n pag._n 48._o say_v plain_o of_o the_o albigense_n they_o be_v none_o of_o we_o d._n humphrey_n to_o the_o three_o reason_n of_o f._n campian_n pag._n 371_o they_o be_v not_o whole_o we_o and_o osiander_n in_o his_o 13._o century_n lib._n 1._o cap._n 4._o pantaleon_n in_o his_o chronicle_n pag._n 98._o &_o melancthon_n in_o the_o foresay_a chronicle_n of_o carrion_n reckon_v they_o among_o heretic_n but_o the_o albigense_n be_v all_o one_o for_o religion_n with_o the_o waldense_n as_o d._n fulke_n say_v in_o these_o word_n lib._n the_o success_n pag._n 332_o that_o epistle_n of_o the_o archbishop_n do_v prove_v that_o the_o albigense_n &_o waldense_n be_v all_o one_o the_o same_o also_o confess_v illyricus_n in_o his_o catalogue_n in_o 4._o to_o pag_n 536._o where_o also_o pag._n 561._o he_o speak_v in_o this_o sort_n the_o waldense_n or_o albigense_n yea_o the_o waldense_n themselves_o in_o the_o bohemian_a confession_n if_o it_o be_v they_o do_v insinuate_v that_o they_o be_v condemn_v of_o the_o sacramentary_n whereas_o they_o say_v in_o the_o 13._o article_n that_o they_o who_o deny_v the_o supper_n of_o the_o lord_n to_o be_v the_o true_a flesh_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n do_v call_v they_o idolater_n antichrist_n and_o man_n brand_v with_o the_o mark_n of_o the_o beast_n beside_o illyricus_n in_o his_o forecited_a catalogue_n write_v that_o the_o thaborites_n who_o indeed_o say_v he_o follow_v the_o opinion_n of_o the_o waldense_n be_v grievous_o vex_v and_o persecute_v of_o rokesana_n and_o other_o hussite_n wherefore_o sith_o protestant_n common_o challenge_v the_o hussite_n for_o their_o brethren_n they_o ought_v not_o to_o claim_v also_o the_o waldenles_a who_o doctrine_n the_o hussite_n do_v persecute_v certain_o the_o confession_n of_o bohemia_n which_o be_v say_v to_o be_v they_o do_v plain_o distinguish_v they_o from_o protestant_n especial_o from_o sacramentary_n for_o art_n 2._o they_o say_v we_o must_v keep_v the_o commandment_n in_o hart_n &_o deed_n art_n 5._o that_o those_o which_o repent_v must_v confess_v their_o sin_n to_o a_o priest_n and_o ask_v absolution_n of_o he_o art_n 9_o that_o priest_n ought_v to_o be_v single_a art_n 11._o that_o sacrament_n be_v necessary_a to_o salvation_n and_o be_v 13._o that_o the_o eucharist_n be_v the_o true_a body_n of_o christ_n as_o say_v they_o christ_n plain_o say_v this_o be_v my_o body_n of_o which_o word_n we_o ought_v to_o believe_v the_o plain_a sense_n not_o declime_v to_o the_o right_n or_o left_a whereupon_o it_o be_v no_o marvel_n that_o caluin_n in_o his_o 249._o epistle_n deni_v it_o to_o be_v lawful_a for_o a_o christian_a man_n to_o embrace_v the_o waldense_n confession_n in_o these_o word_n consider_v you_o whether_o it_o be_v lawful_a for_o a_o christian_a man_n to_o embrace_v the_o form_n of_o the_o confession_n of_o the_o waldense_n who_o without_o any_o distinction_n bound_v up_o all_o in_o one_o bundle_n of_o damnation_n who_o precise_o confess_v not_o the_o bread_n to_o be_v present_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n sure_o we_o think_v not_o 5._o four_o i_o prove_v the_o same_o because_o the_o waldense_n hold_v many_o error_n which_o the_o protestant_n condemn_v illyricus_n in_o his_o foresay_a catalogue_n pag._n 545._o relate_v out_o of_o a_o ancient_a writer_n above_o 300._o year_n ago_o that_o they_o teach_v that_o a_o priest_n be_v in_o mortal_a sin_n can_v not_o consecrate_v the_o eucharist_n that_o every_o oath_n be_v a_o mortal_a sin_n that_o they_o disallow_v matrimony_n and_o likewise_o out_o of_o aeneas_n silvius_n that_o they_o say_v it_o be_v lawful_a for_o every_o one_o to_o preach_v &_o that_o he_o who_o be_v guilty_a of_o mortal_a sin_n be_v not_o not_o capable_a of_o any_o secular_a or_o ecclesiastical_a dignity_n neither_o 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that_o after_o luther_n be_v know_v the_o waldense_n do_v greedy_o purchase_v great_a knowledge_n morgenstern_n in_o his_o foresay_a book_n pag._n 79._o say_v that_o they_o borrow_v the_o best_a part_n of_o their_o doctrine_n from_o the_o lutheran_n and_o d._n fulke_o in_o his_o book_n of_o succession_n pag._n 360._o that_o they_o learn_v of_o those_o of_o basle_n to_o amend_v certain_a error_n which_o they_o have_v receive_v from_o their_o ancestor_n why_o then_o shall_v we_o not_o think_v they_o receive_v the_o doctrine_n of_o justification_n by_o only_a faith_n from_o luther_n especial_o sith_o as_o i_o before_o say_v there_o be_v no_o mention_n of_o it_o among_o they_o in_o former_a time_n again_o jurgenicius_n in_o the_o 2._o chap._n of_o his_o war_n of_o the_o 5._o gospel_n affirm_v that_o the_o author_n of_o the_o bohemian_a confession_n do_v profess_v in_o the_o begin_n thereof_o that_o they_o will_v never_o conjoin_v themselves_o to_o
the_o waldense_n and_o therefore_o the_o bohemian_a confession_n be_v not_o the_o waldense_n confession_n nor_o albeit_o therein_o be_v mention_n of_o justification_n by_o only_a faith_n can_v it_o be_v infer_v that_o therefore_o the_o waldense_n do_v believe_v it_o final_o as_o i_o have_v often_o say_v and_o it_o must_v be_v always_o inculcate_v i_o regard_v not_o who_o any_o one_o say_v to_o have_v be_v protestant_n but_o who_o he_o prove_v to_o have_v be_v such_o neither_o who_o he_o can_v prove_v to_o have_v be_v protestant_n in_o part_n and_o in_o some_o sort_n but_o who_o he_o can_v prove_v to_o have_v be_v absolute_o and_o whole_o protestant_n at_o least_o for_o the_o substance_n of_o protestancy_n neither_o will_v it_o avail_v any_o whit_n to_o complain_v that_o we_o have_v burn_v the_o writing_n of_o the_o waldense_n by_o which_o they_o may_v prove_v that_o they_o be_v true_a protestant_n for_o if_o they_o have_v nor_o wherewithal_o to_o prove_v they_o be_v true_a protestant_n they_o in_o vain_a do_v feign_v it_o beside_o we_o ask_v of_o luther_n &_o his_o follower_n to_o produce_v one_o man_n waldensian_n or_o other_o who_o have_v be_v a_o true_a protestant_n before_o luther_n preach_v for_o which_o end_n there_o be_v no_o need_n of_o writing_n but_o of_o live_a man_n protestant_n wiclif_n be_v no_o true_a protestant_n 6._o in_o like_a sort_n i_o prove_v that_o wicliffe_n and_o his_o follower_n be_v not_o true_a and_o absolute_a protestant_n first_o because_o the_o wiclifist_n be_v by_o name_n condemn_v together_o with_o other_o heretic_n of_o protestant_n in_o their_o apology_n of_o the_o confession_n of_o auspurg_n chap._n of_o the_o church_n in_o these_o word_n we_o have_v plain_o enough_o say_v in_o our_o confession_n that_o we_o disallow_v the_o donatist_n and_o wiclifist_n second_o because_o neither_o in_o wiclif_n book_n nor_o of_o any_o of_o his_o scholar_n be_v there_o any_o sign_n of_o sole_a justify_n faith_n neither_o do_v ever_o any_o catholic_a writer_n contend_v with_o they_o there_o about_o three_o because_o as_o melancthon_n write_v in_o his_o epistle_n to_o myconius_n in_o his_o 1._o tom_fw-mi print_a at_o bustle_n pag._n 416_o wiclif_n neither_o understand_v nor_o hold_v the_o justice_n of_o faith_n yea_o husse_v his_o principal_a follower_n as_o we_o shall_v anon_o rehearse_v believe_v that_o work_n do_v justify_v and_o wiclif_n himself_o in_o thomas_n walden_n tom_n 3._o tit_n 1._o cap._n 7._o bid_v every_o one_o hope_n in_o the_o proper_a justice_n of_o his_o life_n and_o man_n to_o trust_v in_o their_o merit_n which_o thing_n alone_o do_v separate_v he_o far_o enough_o from_o the_o protestant_n camp_n four_o because_o the_o wiclifist_n be_v reckon_v among_o heretic_n of_o many_o protestant_n as_o of_o schusselburg_n tom_n 3._o catal_a pag._n 190._o of_o kemnice_n in_o fundament_n be_v coenae_fw-la pag._n 114._o of_o pantalcon_n in_o his_o chronicle_n and_o of_o mathias_n hoe_n disput_fw-la 27._o they_o be_v term_v most_o monstrous_a monster_n and_o d._n cay_n in_o his_o 2._o book_n of_o the_o antiquity_n of_o cambridge_n object_v wicliffe_n to_o the_o oxford_n man_n as_o a_o slay_v of_o their_o university_n five_o wiclif_n teach_v diverse_a thing_n which_o protestant_n dislike_v and_o to_o omit_v these_o thing_n which_o catholic_n object_v unto_o he_o lectionum_fw-la canisius_n to_o 3_o antiq_n lectionum_fw-la rokesana_n prince_n of_o the_o hussite_n in_o his_o dispute_n with_o catholics_n before_o the_o king_n of_o bohemia_n have_v these_o word_n these_o be_v the_o article_n of_o wiclif_n that_o tithe_n be_v mere_a alm_n that_o the_o clergy_n ought_v to_o have_v no_o civil_a government_n if_o a_o king_n be_v in_o mortal_a sin_n that_o he_o be_v no_o more_o a_o king_n which_o last_o article_n osiander_n in_o his_o 15._o century_n repeat_v thus_o there_o be_v no_o temporal_a lord_n no_o prelate_n no_o bishop_n while_o he_o be_v in_o mortal_a sin_n and_o melancthon_n in_o his_o foresay_a epistle_n wiclif_n do_v plain_o sophistical_o and_o seditious_o wrangle_v upon_o civil_a dominion_n and_o in_o his_o dispute_n of_o the_o right_n of_o magistrate_n wiclif_n be_v mad_a who_o think_v the_o wicked_a to_o have_v no_o dominion_n and_o in_o his_o commentary_n upon_o aristotle_n politic_n wiclif_n will_v have_v those_o who_o have_v not_o the_o holy_a ghost_n to_o loose_v their_o dominion_n so_o that_o i_o marvel_v how_o d._n andrews_n in_o his_o answer_n to_o the_o apology_n of_o bellarmine_n can_v say_v that_o it_o be_v a_o slander_v that_o wiclif_n teach_v so_o when_o as_o not_o only_a catholik_o but_o even_o hussite_n and_o protestant_n do_v affirm_v it_o moreover_o wiclif_n as_o osiander_n report_v in_o the_o place_n aforecited_a do_v condemn_v lawful_a oath_n and_o teach_v that_o all_o thing_n fall_v out_o according_a to_o absolute_a necessity_n and_o melancthon_n in_o his_o say_a epistle_n give_v this_o sentence_n of_o he_o i_o have_v look_v into_o wiclif_n but_o i_o have_v find_v in_o he_o many_o other_o error_n faith_n wiclife_o hold_v not_o justice_n of_o sole_a faith_n by_o which_o one_o may_v judge_v of_o his_o spirit_n he_o at_o all_o understand_v not_o nor_o hold_v the_o justice_n of_o say_v he_o fond_o confound_v the_o gospel_n and_o politic_a affair_n will_v have_v priest_n to_o have_v nothing_o proper_a etc._n etc._n and_o in_o his_o common_a place_n chap._n of_o ecclesiastical_a power_n that_o superstition_n of_o wiclif_n be_v pernicious_a and_o seditious_a which_o drive_v the_o minister_n of_o the_o church_n to_o beggary_n and_o deny_v that_o it_o be_v lawful_a for_o they_o to_o hold_v any_o thing_n proper_a m._n stow_n also_o in_o his_o chronicle_n anno_fw-la 1376._o write_v that_o he_o teach_v that_o neither_o king_n nor_o lay_v man_n can_v give_v any_o thing_n to_o the_o church_n for_o perpetuity_n final_o vadianus_n in_o his_o fi●t_z book_n of_o the_o eucharist_n pag._n 168._o confess_v that_o in_o many_o thing_n he_o foul_o err_v protestant_n hussite_n no_o protestant_n 7._o husse_v likewise_o and_o his_o partner_n we_o prove_v not_o to_o have_v be_v true_a and_o absolute_a protestant_n first_o because_o it_o can_v be_v prove_v that_o they_o hold_v the_o foresay_a article_n of_o justification_n by_o only_a faith_n and_o the_o other_o fundamental_a point_n of_o protestancy_n second_o because_o husse_v be_v by_o name_n reject_v of_o luther_n who_o in_o the_o defence_n of_o his_o 30._o article_n tom_n 2._o thus_o write_v of_o he_o he_o agree_v not_o with_o i_o he_o give_v not_o a_o little_a to_o the_o idol_n of_o rome_n he_o seem_v not_o to_o repugn_v against_o the_o pope_n monarchy_n and_o upon_o the_o 2._o psal_n tom_fw-mi 3._o fol_z 395_o husse_n do_v not_o condemn_v the_o sacrifice_n of_o mass_n as_o we_o do_v and_o upon_o the_o 9_o chapter_n of_o isaias_n tom_n 4._o fol._n 108._o he_o say_v that_o husse_v hold_v a_o doctrine_n most_o pestilent_a most_o pernicious_a horrible_a and_o whole_o impious_a yea_o very_a devilish_a and_o in_o his_o lypsicall_a dispute_n tom_n 1._o fol._n 260_o i_o know_v and_o that_o very_a well_o that_o a_o evil_a prelate_n be_v not_o to_o be_v reject_v and_o therefore_o i_o damn_v the_o article_n of_o husse_n and_o both_o there_o and_o other_o where_o 251._o tom._n 1._o foe_n 30._o 291._o 292._o 251._o oftentimes_o deni_v himself_o to_o be_v a_o bohemian_a by_o which_o he_o mean_v a_o hussite_n and_o in_o his_o table-talkes_a chapter_n of_o s●ermers_n say_v husse_v believe_v that_o work_n with_o faith_n do_v justify_v which_o point_n alone_o exclude_v he_o from_o the_o number_n of_o protestant_n faith_n husse_o believe_v not_o sole_a faith_n and_o in_o the_o chapter_n of_o antichrist_n husse_n depart_v not_o one_o jot_n from_o the_o papist_n but_o only_o reprove_v vice_n and_o naughty_a life_n which_o also_o affirm_v hierome_n of_o prage_n husse_v his_o fellow_n in_o m._n fox_n upon_o the_o 11._o chapter_n of_o the_o apocal._n where_o also_o m._n fox_n himself_o write_v that_o husse_v agree_v with_o the_o papist_n touch_v transubstantiation_n mass_n vow_n predestination_n free_a will_n form_v faith_n cause_n of_o justification_n and_o merit_n of_o work_n which_o plain_o declare_v how_o little_o he_o hold_v of_o protestancy_n last_o when_o bellarmine_n write_v that_o there_o be_v not_o in_o the_o world_n when_o luther_n begin_v any_o religion_n but_o paganism_n judaisme_n mahometisme_n grecisme_n nestorianisme_n hussite_n heresy_n and_o the_o roman_a faith_n d._n whitaker_n cont._n 2._o quest_n 5._o cap._n 3._o pag._n 502._o deny_v these_o to_o have_v be_v all_o for_o say_v he_o our_o church_n be_v then_o in_o which_o word_n he_o profess_v the_o protestant_n to_o be_v a_o different_a church_n from_o the_o hussite_n junius_n also_o lib._n 4._o de_fw-fr eccles_n cap._n 6._o acknowledge_v that_o some_o protestant_n deny_v hussite_n to_o be_v of_o their_o church_n and_o luther_n upon_o the_o 53._o
rehearse_v it_o be_v a_o error_n of_o suenckfeld_n that_o man_n may_v be_v save_v without_o the_o outward_a word_n of_o god_n and_o ministry_n and_o melancthon_n in_o his_o answer_n to_o the_o bavarian_a article_n tom_n 3._o fol._n 372._o affirm_v that_o it_o be_v the_o opinion_n of_o suenckfeld_n and_o the_o anabaptist_n that_o god_n communicate_v himself_o to_o man_n without_o the_o ministry_n of_o the_o word_n kemnice_n in_o the_o 2._o part_n of_o his_o examen_fw-la title_n of_o the_o sacrament_n of_o order_n pag._n 391_o just_o we_o disallow_v of_o enthusiast_n and_o anabaptist_n who_o imagine_v the_o exercise_n of_o the_o outward_a ministry_n not_o to_o be_v needful_a and_o title_n of_o penance_n pag._n 316_o the_o enthusiast_n be_v condemn_v who_o feign_v that_o god_n forgive_v sin_n immediate_o and_o without_o the_o use_n of_o the_o ministry_n d._n whitaker_n cont_n 2._o quaest_n 3._o c._n 11._o pag._n 328_o we_o whole_o reject_v revelation_n which_o be_v beside_o the_o word_n as_o fanatical_a anabaptisticall_a and_o altogether_o heretical_a and_o in_o his_o 1._o book_n of_o the_o scripture_n cap._n 3._o sect_n 1._o pag._n 44_o we_o must_v expect_v no_o more_o immediate_a revelation_n it_o be_v so_o and_o he_o add_v that_o protestant_n hiss_v out_o all_o those_o who_o pretend_v these_o kind_n of_o revelation_n and_o in_o the_o 2._o book_n cap._n 10._o sect_n 4_o why_o be_v the_o anabaptist_n hold_v for_o heretic_n if_o the_o church_n do_v know_v matter_n of_o faith_n without_o all_o external_a mean_n by_o the_o only_a instinct_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n pareus_n in_o his_o 3._o book_n de_fw-fr justificat_fw-la cap._n 3_o the_o exception_n which_o they_o make_v of_o special_a revelation_n be_v a_o mere_a jest_n for_o beside_o the_o prophet_n apostle_n &_o some_o few_o apostolical_a man_n god_n do_v not_o deal_v nor_o have_v deal_v with_o special_a revelation_n but_o with_o ordinary_a and_o will_v have_v the_o church_n to_o be_v content_a with_o the_o word_n and_o the_o holy_a ghost_n work_v in_o the_o heart_n of_o the_o faithful_a and_o cap._n 8_o god_n will_v not_o have_v his_o church_n to_o be_v teach_v and_o confirm_v by_o enthusiasticall_a revelation_n but_o by_o bear_v of_o his_o word_n and_o ordinary_a use_n of_o the_o sacrament_n final_o beza_n in_o the_o conference_n of_o montbelgard_n pag._n 407._o say_v that_o we_o have_v no_o testimony_n in_o scripture_n of_o extraordinary_a mean_n of_o infuse_v faith_n beside_o it_o be_v the_o fashion_n of_o both_o old_a and_o new_a heretic_n to_o boast_v of_o special_a revelation_n of_o old_a heretic_n witness_v s._n augustin_n in_o his_o book_n of_o heresy_n and_o caluin_n in_o his_o book_n of_o true_a reformation_n pag._n 322._o of_o munster_n carolstade_n and_o the_o sacramentary_n luther_n testify_v the_o same_o upon_o the_o 22._o of_o esaiae_n tom_n 4._o fol._n 280._o of_o gentilis_fw-la caluin_n in_o his_o book_n against_o he_o of_o storcke_n manlius_n in_o his_o common_a place_n pag._n 482._o of_o peucer_n and_o bergius_n schusselburb_n lib._n 4._o theol._n caluin_n art_n 1._o pag._n 172._o that_o i_o may_v say_v nothing_o of_o luther_n mean_n the_o protestant_a church_n not_o teach_v by_o ordinary_a mean_n zuinglius_fw-la and_o caluin_n 12._o other_o therefore_o teach_v that_o the_o protestant_a church_n before_o luther_n receive_v the_o faith_n not_o by_o any_o extraordinary_a way_n but_o by_o ordinary_a mean_n to_o wit_n by_o hear_v some_o true_a doctrine_n of_o popish_a preacher_n and_o some_o by_o read_v scripture_n thus_o d._n whitaker_n cont._n 2._o quest_n 3._o cap._n 2._o pag._n 424._o behold_v new_a fable_n and_o fiction_n for_o we_o be_v like_a to_o hear_v no_o other_o kind_n of_o stuff_n of_o protestant_n in_o these_o matter_n of_o fact_n not_o only_o less_o prove_v than_o the_o former_a but_o also_o less_o probable_a or_o possible_a for_o it_o be_v at_o least_o possible_a that_o god_n alone_o shall_v have_v teach_v his_o church_n but_o that_o before_o luther_n revolt_n either_o popish_a or_o protestanticall_a preacher_n or_o the_o scripture_n shall_v have_v teach_v protestancy_n have_v neither_o show_n of_o probability_n nor_o possibility_n not_o protestant_a preacher_n because_o before_o luther_n there_o be_v none_o at_o all_o as_o hereafter_o both_o d._n whitaker_n and_o other_o shall_v confess_v for_o the_o present_a it_o may_v suffice_v that_o luther_n upon_o the_o 22._o psalm_n tom_fw-mi 3._o fol._n 344._o write_v that_o there_o be_v lest_o only_o the_o scripture_n and_o that_o comprise_v not_o in_o voice_n but_o in_o letter_n by_o which_o we_o may_v restore_v ourselves_o to_o the_o faith_n and_o against_o catarine_n tom_n 2._o fol._n 140._o he_o say_v that_o the_o vocal_a gospel_n be_v choke_v and_o extinguish_v by_o papist_n be_v silent_a in_o all_o the_o world_n neither_o can_v the_o scripture_n teach_v protestancy_n not_o only_o because_o it_o teach_v no_o such_o doctrine_n but_o also_o because_o it_o plain_o profess_v 10._o rom._n 10._o that_o none_o can_v come_v to_o faith_n but_o by_o bear_v of_o preacher_n lawful_o send_v as_o hereafter_o we_o shall_v see_v protestant_n do_v confess_v in_o the_o mean_a time_n it_o may_v suffice_v that_o danaeus_n in_o his_o book_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n pag._n 1069._o write_v that_o s._n paul_n say_v that_o faith_n come_v by_o hear_v not_o by_o private_a read_n and_o that_o we_o open_v a_o gap_n to_o fanatical_a spirit_n for_o to_o contemn_v their_o pastor_n if_o we_o say_v that_o read_n alone_o will_v suffice_v to_o get_v faith_n which_o protestant_n have_v experience_v for_o thus_o write_v luther_n in_o the_o preface_n of_o his_o catechism_n tom_n 5._o fol._n 645_o there_o be_v find_v some_o this_o day_n even_o of_o the_o nobility_n who_o dare_v say_v we_o need_v no_o more_o pastor_n or_o preacher_n that_o book_n suffice_v out_o of_o which_o every_o one_o may_v learn_v the_o same_o thing_n by_o himself_o without_o any_o man_n teach_v and_o caluin_n upon_o the_o 2._o thess_n cap._n 4_o certain_a phanaticall_a fellow_n do_v brag_v that_o they_o need_v no_o more_o the_o help_n of_o teacher_n because_o read_v may_v abundant_o suffice_v 13._o neither_o can_v those_o imaginary_a protestant_n learn_v protestancy_n of_o popish_a preacher_n first_o because_o protestant_n as_o before_o his_o show_v complain_v that_o papist_n have_v extinguish_v all_o their_o faith_n again_o because_o now_o no_o man_n learn_v protestancy_n of_o popish_a preacher_n and_o beside_o because_o papistry_n and_o protestancy_n be_v direct_o opposite_a as_o luther_n say_v in_o cap._n 3._o micheae_n tom_n 4._o fol._n 446._o and_o tom_fw-mi 7._o epist_n ad_fw-la eslingenses_n and_o against_o king_n henry_n tom_n 2._o fol._n 497_o or_o as_o brentius_n speak_v in_o his_o apology_n of_o the_o confession_n of_o wittenberg_n pag._n 703_o they_o differ_v in_o the_o very_a principle_n or_o as_o beza_n write_v in_o his_o confession_n cap._n 7._o pag._n 56_o in_o the_o very_a sum_n of_o salvation_n and_o as_o d._n whitaker_n affirm_v in_o his_o oration_n that_o the_o pope_n be_v antichrist_n opposite_a protestancy_n &_o popery_n quit_v opposite_a papistry_n be_v more_o repugnant_a to_o protestantisme_n then_o hot_a to_o cold_a black_a to_o white_a how_o then_o be_v it_o possible_a that_o they_o shall_v have_v learn_v protestancy_n of_o papist_n who_o teach_v so_o contrary_a doctrine_n last_o because_o protestant_n themselves_n deny_v it_o for_o luther_n upon_o the_o gradual_a psalm_n tom_n 3._o fol._n 516._o thus_o write_v in_o popery_n there_o be_v never_o hear_v one_o pure_a word_n of_o sin_n of_o grace_n of_o the_o merit_n of_o christ_n and_o fol._n 568_o under_o the_o pope_n all_o pulpit_n all_o church_n do_v sound_a out_o nothing_o but_o wicked_a doctrine_n and_o in_o cap._n 2._o ad_fw-la galat._n tom_n 5._o fol._n 297_o see_v papist_n know_v not_o what_o faith_n be_v it_o be_v impossible_a that_o they_o shall_v have_v faith_n and_o much_o less_o teach_v it_o to_o other_o and_o the_o apology_n of_o the_o confession_n of_o auspurg_n in_o the_o preface_n no_o man_n teach_v that_o sin_n be_v remit_v by_o say_v in_o christ_n caluin_n 4._o instit_fw-la cap._n 2._o §_o 2._o say_v that_o in_o popery_n the_o doctrine_n without_o which_o christianity_n can_v stand_v be_v all_o bury_v &_o cast_v out_o and_o in_o respon_n ad_fw-la versipellem_fw-la pag_n 360_o in_o popery_n there_o sound_v the_o bare_a and_o empty_a name_n of_o christ_n and_o upon_o the_o 2._o cap._n 2._o tim_n there_o be_v a_o horrible_a destruction_n of_o the_o gospel_n in_o popery_n wherefore_o none_o learn_v the_o protestant_a gospel_n either_o in_o popery_n or_o of_o popish_a preacher_n beside_o although_o they_o can_v have_v learn_v the_o faith_n of_o popish_a preacher_n yet_o they_o shall_v be_v ashamed_a to_o say_v that_o they_o have_v learn_v it_o of_o they_o who_o they_o account_v the_o bondslave_n and_o minister_n of_o antichrist_n
22_o i_o deny_v say_v be_v this_o succession_n of_o pastor_n to_o be_v always_o notorious_a to_o the_o world_n and_o in_o his_o answer_n to_o stapletons_n cavillat_n who_o will_v acknowledge_v that_o she_o alone_o it_o the_o true_a church_n who_o can_v show_v her_o pastor_n in_o a_o continual_a succession_n d._n humphrey_n to_o 3._o reason_n of_o f._n campian_n p._n 288._o confess_v that_o not_o so_o much_o as_o the_o name_n of_o the_o pastor_n who_o teach_v their_o church_n be_v extant_a d._n whitaker_n cont._n 2_o quest_n 5._o cap._n 6._o page_n 508._o thus_o write_v what_o then_o be_v the_o succession_n of_o our_o pastor_n always_o visible_a no._n for_o this_o be_v not_o needful_a though_o therefore_o our_o pastor_n be_v not_o in_o time_n past_o manifest_a neither_o can_v we_o name_v then_o yet_o etc._n etc._n d._n morton_n in_o the_o first_o part_n of_o his_o apology_n lib._n 1._o cap._n 21._o say_v that_o the_o catholic_a church_n can_v always_o show_v the_o ordination_n of_o pastor_n d._n white_a in_o his_o way_n to_o the_o church_n pag._n 410_o i_o have_v show_v the_o teacher_n of_o our_o faith_n do_v lawful_o succeed_v and_o so_o always_o have_v do_v though_o not_o outward_o and_o visible_o to_o the_o world_n the_o like_a he_o have_v pag._n 411._o and_o 436._o sadel_n write_v his_o book_n the_o vocatione_n ministrorun_v against_o such_o protestant_n as_o think_v that_o their_o minister_n want_v all_o lawful_a call_n because_o say_v they_o they_o have_v no_o perpetual_a visible_a succession_n from_o the_o apostle_n unto_o these_o time_n and_o himself_o there_o pag._n 560._o confess_v that_o visible_a succession_n have_v be_v break_v of_o for_o many_o year_n in_o the_o church_n thou_o see_v good_a reader_n how_o they_o plain_o confess_v that_o before_o luther_n start_v up_o their_o pastor_n be_v unknown_a to_o the_o world_n not_o manifest_a their_o succession_n not_o always_o visible_a their_o name_n not_o extant_a nor_o they_o can_v be_v name_v of_o protestant_n and_o indeed_o and_o effect_v they_o all_o confess_v the_o same_o when_o as_o none_o of_o they_o can_v produce_v any_o one_o man_n worthy_a of_o credit_n who_o hear_v any_o protestant_a preacher_n who_o before_o luther_n arise_v preach_v justification_n by_o only_a faith_n and_o the_o other_o fundamental_a point_n of_o protestancy_n 2._o second_o luther_n either_o complain_v or_o boast_v for_o sometime_o he_o alone_o preach_v protestancy_n in_o his_o preface_n upon_o his_o 1._o tome_fw-mi at_o first_o i_o be_v alone_o alone_o luther_n alone_o and_o in_o his_o book_n of_o the_o captivity_n of_o babylon_n tom_n 2._o fol._n 63_o at_o that_o time_n i_o alone_o do_v role_n this_o stone_n and_o against_o the_o king_n of_o england_n fol._n 497_o i_o alone_o stand_v in_o the_o battle_n i_o alone_o be_v compel_v to_o cast_v myself_o upon_o the_o weapon_n of_o the_o emperor_n and_o the_o pope_n i_o stand_v alone_o in_o danger_n forsake_v of_o all_o help_v of_o none_o and_o upon_o the_o gradual_a psalm_n tom_n 3._o fol._n 5●5_n in_o the_o begin_n of_o my_o quarrel_n i_o take_v all_o the_o matter_n upon_o myself_o and_o do_v think_v that_o by_o god_n help_n i_o alone_o shall_v sustain_v it_o and_o otherwhere_o as_o before_o be_v report_v he_o say_v that_o without_o he_o other_o shall_v not_o have_v know_v one_o jot_n of_o the_o gospel_n melancthon_n in_o the_o preface_n of_o the_o act_n of_o ratisbon_n tom_n 4._o pag._n 730_o say_v luther_n alone_o dare_v meddle_v with_o the_o error_n of_o the_o pope_n &_o school_n zuinglius_fw-la in_o his_o exegesis_n to_o 2._o term_v luther_n jonathas_n who_o alone_o dare_v set_v upon_o the_o camp_n of_o the_o philistian_o and_o caluin_n in_o his_o admonition_n to_o westphalus_n pag._n 787._o say_v luther_n alone_o doubt_v not_o to_o set_v upon_o all_o popery_n beside_o luther_n as_o before_o we_o have_v rehearse_v write_v that_o the_o only_a scripture_n be_v leave_v whereby_o man_n may_v recover_v the_o faith_n but_o if_o at_o that_o time_n there_o have_v be_v other_o protestant_a pastor_n the_o scripture_n have_v not_o be_v alone_o and_o without_o luther_n man_n may_v have_v learn_v the_o gospel_n neither_o have_v luther_n be_v leave_v alone_o and_o forsake_v of_o all_o perish_v the_o protestant_a ministry_n whole_o perish_v but_o some_o of_o they_o will_v have_v step_v out_o and_o second_v he_o especial_o after_o they_o see_v that_o the_o preach_v without_o all_o danger_n 3._o three_o protestant_n do_v sometime_o plain_o say_v that_o their_o ministry_n be_v whole_o perish_v before_o luther_n arise_v away_o take_v away_o luther_n in_o his_o book_n of_o private_a mass_n tom_n 2._o fol._n 249_o papist_n have_v take_v out_o of_o the_o church_n the_o true_a ministry_n of_o the_o word_n and_o of_o the_o institution_n of_o minister_n fol._n 372._o aboloshed_a aboloshed_a he_o write_v that_o protestant_a ordination_n be_v by_o papist_n abolish_v and_o extinguish_v and_o upon_o the_o gradual_a psalm_n tom_fw-mi 3._o fol._n 568_o the_o church_n have_v no_o true_a ministry_n under_o antichrist_n ministry_n no_o true_a ministry_n upon_o the_o 25._o of_o genesis_n tom_n 6._o fol._n 319_o in_o our_o time_n after_o those_o popish_a monster_n the_o true_a knowledge_n of_o the_o word_n and_o of_o divine_a ordination_n be_v extinguish_v and_o upon_o the_o 49._o chap._n fol._n 655_o extinguish_v extinguish_v we_o be_v not_o the_o church_n for_o any_o ordinary_a succession_n caluin_n epist_n 290_o because_o the_o true_a rank_n of_o ordination_n be_v break_v of_o by_o the_o tyranny_n of_o the_o pope_n now_o we_o need_v have_v new_a help_n to_o raise_v again_o the_o church_n of_o break_a of_o and_o in_o answer_n to_o sadolet_n pag._n 132._o he_o write_v that_o when_o the_o supremacy_n of_o the_o pope_n be_v set_v up_o the_o true_a order_n of_o the_o church_n perish_v perish_v perish_v and_o of_o true_a reformation_n p._n 322_o not_o without_o cause_n do_v we_o avouch_v the_o church_n of_o god_n for_o 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occasion_n of_o it_o be_v tezelius_fw-la his_fw-la preach_v of_o indulgence_n prote●ancy_n ●he_v occa●on_n of_o the_o beginning_n ●f_a prote●ancy_n for_o thus_o writ_v crusius_n l._n 10._o anal._n sueu_o pag._n 5.8_o tezelius_fw-la boldness_n stir_v up_o luther_n mind_n to_o set_v up_o conclusion_n against_o those_o indulgence_n on_o the_o gate_n of_o the_o temple_n of_o all_o saint_n in_o wittenberg_n the_o last_o day_n of_o october_n which_o be_v saturday_n month_n the_o day_n of_o the_o week_n &_o month_n hence_o now_o come_v the_o occasion_n &_o beginning_n say_v he_o of_o correct_v the_o christian_n religion_n schusselburg_n praef._n tom_n 8._o catal._n haeret_fw-la old_a man_n remember_v &_o it_o record_v in_o write_v for_o remembrance_n for_o ever_o and_o public_o extant_a that_o this_o be_v the_o cause_n that_o the_o gospel_n flourish_v again_o in_o our_o age_n that_o john_n tetzele_n carry_v about_o pardon_n of_o sin_n to_o be_v sell_v in_o the_o pope_n name_n and_o kemnice_n 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