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A89850 Satans design discovered: vvho under a pretence of worshipping Christs person in heaven, would exclude God and Christ, the spirit and light, out of the world: and that he should no more dwell in his people as he hath done, till Doomsday, that so he might rule in the hearts of men and women, unrevealed, while the world endures, onely under the name of God and Christ, talked of at a distance, that he may rule in the creation, exalted above God. Clearly laid open in an answer to Thomas Moor, who calls his book an Antidote against the spreading infections, &c. Wherein is discovered the crooked ways the winding Serpent takes to save his head, and reproach the truth with lies, that by any means he might make people believe that a lying spirit is among the Quakers, but is found within him. With 48. lies, taken out from three times as many, and sent back to be proved by the founder of them, T.M. Also some particulars, what the Quakers holds ... / By a servant to truth, called James Nayler. Naylor, James, 1617?-1660. 1655 (1655) Wing N313; Thomason E857_6; ESTC R202989 34,304 48

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finde it by asking questions he had need of a better resolver then thee that had answered these Queries or any who deny the infallible spirit of God within them And thou tells of a new birth and the forming of Christ in men but what birth is that thou intends and what Christ must be formed within seeing thou hast in thy judgement and Doctrine confined the Son of God in Heaven while this World lasts art not thou preaching another Christ and birth let all who have the Son of God judge The last Query which askes what the grace of God is that brings salvation and hath appeared to all men this thou answerest with a slander saying that indeed we believe no such thing as the grace of God appearing to all men but put a fancy in the room of it c. Shewing thy heart void of grace and so more ready to slander then answer having more experience of the one then the other and no wonder though it be so when thou deniest the spirit of Light within to be the true Teacher and thou sayst that which is alwayes within cannot be properly said to be brought to a man wherein thou shewest thy sottishness Is not the life of man brought to him freely given of God and yet alwayes in him while he lives so natural reason may judge thee and he that gives the life gives the light thereby to keep the life unspotted though such as thou turn it into darknesse and hide it under the Bushel else would it reprove thy lying spirit who would make people believe that I deny the Scriptures because I bid blinde guides search the Scriptures and reprove you who cannot believe what the Scripture saith conderning the flesh of Christ and thou sayst the Ranters principles and ours are one and the greatest ground thon brings to prove it is by Richard Farnsworth writing a Book against them O thou dissembler art thou not ashamed to accuse us to be one with them and yet takes offence that we should write against them Indeed they are true friends to the Kingdom thou art pleading for in thy Book to wit sin for terme of life and strong props in that Kingdom so you can ill spare them and their faith and thine suits well for pleasure here and hereafter yet be ashamed of thy acculation and the ground of it for of above 40 Books written against the truth within this three or foure years I never see one written against the Ranters by your Parish-Teachers yet will you murmur at others which shews no little of your friendship and thou murmurest at Rich Earnsworth because he only blameth them for turning to a loose and prophane life and saist that once the pure law was set up in them to have freed them from Sin and thou saist if he know any thing that their principle led naturally to it but is this no blasphemy to charge the pure law and Judgment naturally to lead to sin for this is the principle that he knowes and speaks of and thou saist he ownes their principales and yet cries out against their grosse prophanes and Atheism so that to own the pure law and Judgment seemes to thee an offence and matter of accusation But saist thou this he doth because that is grosly scandalous and hinders others from harkning to their imaginations O thou devourer how dost thou cast out thy envie are these words becoming Christians thus wickedly to slander and is the pure law and judgment and the light within imaginations with thee thou art afraid this should be harkened to and therefore calls it the roote of all Atheisme and propanesse which the Apostles saith want of the light within and because of the blindnesse of the heart is people given over unto lasciviousnesse to worke all uncleanness with greedinesse Eph. 4. 18. and 19. So thou art an enemy to the Apostles testimony light and Spirit Law and Judgments and so art Antichrist out of thy own mouth and let the Apostles words judge thee without wresting And thy envie hath got an object of one about Norwich that pretended perfection whom thou saist yet lived secretly in uncleanesse along time if not in murther too for hiding it I say the woe is to him who hath given thee cause to blaspheme by departing our of the way of God which is perfect but let every sober Christian judge thee with Spirit thou art of what takest that advantage against the truth considering the wickednesse committed in your Parishes where you are Masters and from whom you have your hire which might stop your mouthes frō this glorying were it not that the Devill must rejoyce in his own work who could never get such an advantage against the truth since it begun to spread in the Nation So now he plies it with reproaches from all parts of the Nation which is no little sorrow to them that feare God nor will it be joy to you one day who aggravate it as thou dost adding murther to it which if thou know such a thing and conceale it the blood be upon thy head but it thou know not such a thing then a murderous slanderer thou art and thy own works shall judge thee in every honest heart who reades what thou hast published to all the world And for thy accusing us at our meeting for incivilities as for calling you liars Serpents Sots and such like I say if any did call you that you are not you are more innocent then they I justify no such thing but this I know and many other that was there that one of thy companions had his staffe up to have knock't me down in the yard gnashing at me with his teeth and narrowly I escaped that it was not so had you had any such carriage from us reason might have judged it uncivill but a Word from us is counted In offence when Actions from the world is counted none And thou would 't charge James Parnell with blasphemy who speaking of corrupt reason saith before that was I am I say thou here shewest what thou knowest of the inward man or being in the life of Christ Is not he that is born again of the immortal seed borne of that which before corrupt reason is art thou a teacher and calls this blasphemy Nay it is the blasphemer in thee that cannot own the voyce of Christ for if any thing of Christ speak in man it was before corrupt reason was and every one in their measures of Christ as they have received And for the name of Manifesterians which thou wouldest cast upon us for a slander and saist thou know'st not any called Manifesterians nor what manner of persons they apply that name to and said it thou never heard of any such thing that John Wray called you so in some letters I say then thou should have beene sent and not have Judged that thou heard not for the letter is yet a witnesse for us which came to mee above 60 miles from John
fright the rest whom he cannot get to joyne with him in this wickednesse seeking to perswade them that to waite for the appearance of Christ in them with his light and Spirit to guide them out of all this confusion is the most dangerous errour in the world and of all other to be avoided when as indeed all that are from that Spirits guiding are in errour and can be no other wise untill to that Spirit they turne therewith to be led out of errour and being more subtile then all the rest brings in Lies and false Accusations against others as though they was out of the truth but he a friend unto it when as all the friendship he intends when truly weighed is to make an eternal separation betwixt the Creature and the Creator and to keep God out of his dwelling place yea and as far distant as the Heaven is from the Earth as thou dost in thy Book who denies the possession of God in his Saints as thou dost in thy 32 page and in many other places in thy Book In thy 25 page confesses the Body to be the Temple of the Lord in which God primely and chiefly dwelleth and manifesteth himself in through the testimony of Jesus there received and thus with confusion saying and unsaying hast thou made up thy Book to the end that thou might keep people from the light of Christ perverting the Scriptures to wrong ends and making them speak quite contrary to the Spirit as that of Amos 2. 13. where God saith I am pressed under you as a cart is pressed that is full of sheaves This thou would have people to believe that God said I will pross you as the cart is pressed with sheaves which is quite contrary and where the Spirit saith Christ in you speaking of the Saints in whom Christ dwelt thou turnedst it to Christ among you as he was among the Pharisees and where Christ saith The kingdom of God is within you that thou pervertest also to among you and this thou printest to all the world with many more such like of thy deceitful workings and pervertings too many to mention which all that read thy Book may see scarce one Scripture thou hast medled with which thou hast not sought to wrest and art not ashamed to accuse me for abusing the Scriptures who have but quoted the plain words without meanings at all nay so shameless is thy work in thy book that were it not for the simplicities sake which in many is deceived by such as thee I should leave it to discover it self as sufficiently it will do in the fight of the wise who compare but one part of it with another and not have written any thing unto it As also thy shameless denying what thou spoke before hundreds of Witnesses before whom thou denyed God to be manifest in the Creature then and that none had immediate call but the Apostles who was called by Christ personally before his Ascention And when I instanced Paul and Ananias Thou said Paul was in Heaven and saw him personally Thou said further that thou had not the same Testimony as the Apostles had which thou now turnedst to Timothy Further thou said also That the Scriptures are the absolute Rule and Medium of Faith and when I asked thee if God could give faith without them thou saidst Yea then I said They was not the absolute Rule and Medium then John Wray said I catcht at Words to which I answered If thou didst confess thy mistake I did not desire to make thee an Offender for a word and upon thy confession thereupon that thing ceased and I spake no more of it at that time which otherwise had not so passed Thou saidst further That Paul saw Christ personally with his bodily eyes after his Ascension Thou al so said I was a false witness in saying that I had seen Christ and said thou had never seen him as Paul did to which I said I believed thou had not Further thou said The benefit the drunkards have by Christ is that they enjoy that drink wherewith they are drunken Thou said also That there is something which is not of God which teacheth the Creature to deny sin with divers other such like things which then I reproved thee for and withstood thee to thy face before the people where thou couldest not deny it and writ to thee of it in faithfulness that thou mightest have considered thereof and have seen thy folly and not have envyed me for speaking the truth which thou could not then deny before the people neither then nor the next day But now the envious one being got up for these things thou art not ashamed to account me a Lyar which thou couldst not do to my face before the people here shewing thy self to be a Backbiter and false Accuser of the truth and the lye returned into thy own bosom where the Lyar dwells seeking to hide himself by accusing others In thy Epistle thou tellest of some abatement of bloody persecution in these times but whosoever sees the emnity of these days and your combining together against the innocent with your actings imprisonings whippings mockings stockings reproachings and false accusings with all the multitude of your invented Envies of which thy Book is not the least they may see such a Generation of persecuters gathered from all Quarters against a poor despised People and persecuting for such things as never was since the World was created as witness all the Goals in the Nation and this mischievous lying Book of thine whereby thou would adde affliction unto those Bonds accusing us of denying Christ and preaching another Christ and another Gospel and another Spirit and many such blasphemous things from which we are clcar hast thou added unto the envy that is against us for all which thou must give an account amongst the rest when thou hast filled up thy measure And thou that callest it a Spirit of Antichrist to witness Christ bearing sin now in the body art one of those who never saw him whom thou hast pierced But did not he bear sin in thee though thou know him not thou had been in hell ere now and that thou shall know when his spirit leaves striving and his long-suffering is turned into Judgement which should lead thee to repentance And Christ appearing without sin to salvation is witnessed with all who have seen his appearance and that is the spirit of Antichrist which cannot confess him who goeth on in blindness and confusion as thou dost who faist there is not in man any light knowledge or understanding to make them sensible of their Idolatry and wickedness And in the next page faist Although the word be nigh them in their hearts What is not the word light and understanding where it is if it be minded it was so to the people of God who knew it in their hearts and by it was kept out of sin But thy testimony is contrary whose eyes are abroad
own ignorance but thou canst not Judge our knowledge he is above thy wrath though Babell thou be building but you that deny Gods being manifest or working in you now whose is those works you are performing and that righteousnesse you are calling for from others Is it not plaine that you are with the Jews stablishing your own works which God works not in you tho you be hurried headlong so as this you wil not consider for that which is not Gods work is your owne and God will be served with his own but this the world knows not who serves their belly And thou tellest the Father hath put all things under his feete I say he that spoke those words could witnesse it but if thou mind thou maist see the liar false accuser and envious blasphemer yet raigning as thy booke may make manifest and thy confusion who saith page 24 that it cannot be perfectly said that God in an absolute sence was or is manifested in the flesh of any Son of Adam and in thy next page thou faist the body is the Temple of the Lord in which God primely and chiefly dwelleth and manifesteth himselfe the thing which thou hast so often before denied and thou goest about to deny the manifestation of the Sons of God untill the end of the world I say the world will not have an end with thy generation while there is ought to be got by favour or force but the Sons of God was manifest with the Saints while they lived in this world 1 John 3. 1 2. and therein was their boldnesse that as he is so was they in this world 1 Iohn 4. 17. and thou heapest up a great deale of confusion to deny the life of Christ to be made manifest in any till after death shewing thy selfe to be one of those spoken on Eph. 4. 18. 19. who is alienated from the life of God because of the blindnesse of the heart who hath not learned Christ and so given over for he that hath not the Spirit of Christ is none of his and he that hath the Spirit hath the life which destroyes death and reveales darknesse which thou calls an imagination and how unwilling is the Devill that the life of Christ should be received it is death to him and his Ministers so they all oppose it what paines hast thou taken in thy booke for thy Master and thy greatest businesse is to darken the appearance of Christ in Spirit that none may looke for it nor beleive it for the Devill knows that faith breaks his covenant and the incomming of Christ is his outcasting so thy worke is to keepe Christ out untill people be dead so the Devill may keepe his seate while they live yet though they be found in this Work withstanding the knowledge of Christ in the Creature and his appearance yet thou canst not bear it to be called a Minister of Antichrist Also thou pleadest hard for Sin and Self while all men lives accusing Richard Farnsworth for witnessing Moitification and death of Sin and would bring Paul against him who once was in the Warfare and then wretched but afterward more then a Conquerour and could do all things through the life of Christ in him which thou deniest but that thou mindest not to Gal. 2. 20. Rom. 8. 37 38. preach the life of Christ for that is to preach the death of sinne which is not thy work who art preaching it up for term of life not onely in thy self but in all other as far as it lies in thy power calling Perfection a devillish Doctrine pleading against it and for sinne with all thy power such a work as never a Minister of Christ was ever found in as all that search the Scriptures may witness against thee All that ever preached Christ preached perfection and pressed after it and believed it to which thy Faith is reprobare with which thou doest accuse us and the Faith of all that believe you you have overthrown so that none that believe you can believe freedome and yet to blind people withall faist Let all them that name the Name of the Lord depart from iniquity when thou hast preached up no putting off the body of sinne till after death and thou goest on as thy main business still preaching Christ out of his People saying not one in the Heavens and another dwelling in us clearly shewing thou knowest not him that filleth Heaven and Earth and knowest not him that is over all and in all and so judges him like thy self who can but be in one place And thou saist that Paul was the last Act. 9. 10 11. Act. 13. 2 that was immediatly called which is no truer then the rest for immediatly was Ananias Barnabas and others called since But it is as hard for thy Spirit to speak truth as for the Leopard to change his spots yet full of slanders and would judge my Faith concerning Christ by thy Doubtings thereby to cast a Mist and make the truth odious What would'st thou do had'st thou any ground for thy wickedness who chargest such Blasphemies against me upon no other grounds but thy doubting it to be so Hast thou done herein as thou would'st be done by May not all that reade thee see thy venome cast upon me which shall return on thy self and for it thou shalt answer And when thou hast raised these abominable Lies as I deny the Person of Christ or his being in Heaven from thy own doubts then thou would'st make a do to prove him in Heaven and that he hath a Body when all is but to disprove thy own Lye and not my judgment yet it is thy intent to cast it upon me but the righteous Judge shall return the wickedness of the Wicked upon his own Pate and in thy busie mind thou art telling of the place where the Majesty of God dwells a place thou never saw and thou sayst no meer man as from Adam can approach or see the Lords Throne in Heaven I say thou bablest thou knowest not what Who must appear before his Throne if none as from Adam must He that over comes saith Christ will I give Re v. 3. to sit with me upon my Throne even as I have overcome and am sit down with my Father in his Throne Did not John see the Throne and him that sate thereon and Stephen also and was not they from Adam Do'st not thou here deny the Resurrection of the body Thy Generation knowes too much of the glory of the World to know what the Throne of God is And thou make'st an Objection Can flesh and bloud enter into the Kingdome of Heaven and thou answerest no Yet saist thou the same flesh and bones shall the bloud being poured out and gone as it was in the person of Christ I say what confused stuff is this that proceeds from thy Imaginations Is Christ ascended without bloud or is it onely the bloud of People that keepes them from ascending which they
his sufferings which he suffered in his own person who is the everlasting sacrifice for of our selves without him in us we can do nothing but as he is the doer and sufferer in us But this the wantons knowes not nor the Beasts of the field who live in jollity but despise the chastisements of the Sonne who is perfected through sufferings in which he leads all his and suffers with them and beares up the world who know him not which shall account for his sufferings and piercings woundings and reproaches though now you regard not nor are sensible of your wickedness in your souls or bodies as thou sayst you are not And you are they that cannot confess Christ come in your flesh now to give you a sense of your sins and suffer with you in all your passage out of the world and so are the Antichrists John speaks of but this you would shuffle off by saying you consess him come at Jerusalem and there suffered in his own person I say so did those John speaks of and so doth the Pope now and all his Rabble from the highest to the lowest of you and if that confession in word he acknowledge of that spirit of God John speaks on then where is the spirit of Antichrist the Pope will quit himself by as large confession of words as you but neither he nor you brings forth his life into the word and so confess him in you in buffettings whippings mockings imprisonments and all other sufferings for his righteous name in you and his righteous nature acting you contrary to selfe this would destroy your Partonages pride and stateliness from the least of you who calles your selves his Ministers to the Pope who weares his treble Crown and yet calls himself a Servant of Servants and so you are of them who in words confess him but in works deny him but it is the appearance of Christ in his Saints in all Generations which hath judged Antichrist which ever put his appearance into another age afar off but now hath put his appearance into another world so far from owning him manifested in any measure in their mortall bodies that they hold it blasphemy for any to witness him where he is appeared and this is the spirit of Antichrist gone out into the world and now is in the world would exclude Christ out of the world that he with his polluted spirit under fair pretences might rule the world being got into the hearts of worldly men and women now preacheth up his Kingdom here for terme of life and to cheat the more promiseth freedom after death and this faith hath he begotten in the world and his Ministers preach it and uphold it with all their power both in practice and Doctrine and the people where the lust is entered love to have it so but blessed be the Lord who hath appeared and is appearing in the hearts of mortal men and women and there is manifest revealing the man of sin and ruling the Creation and he is known to be Antichrist whose heart is without Christ and cannot confesse him manifest come in Spirit into the heart of flesh but such who there see him judgeth Antichrist and his Doctrine and so thou art judged and thy worke in thy booke which is to preach Christ out of the heart and not to be manifested in the flesh and thou art he who would make God a liar who saith he hath given his Son into the world for a Leader and Ruler to the people of all generations that will beleive in his light and own him who is the same yesterday and to day and for ever and this is the Testimony of Jesus by thee rejected but by us received in Spirit and spirituall Ministation not in the letter but within in Spirit And thou goes on to tell how the teachings of the Father is held forth and thou saist first in all the 2 Cor. 3. 6. books of his Creation Chastisements and Changes c. Secondly more clearely and abundantly in the holy Scriprures To which I say there is another thing before both these the Fountaine of both these and that is the Spirit of God and light of Christ without a measure whereof neither of these can teach though the wisest men in the world have both these as is plaine by the Jews who far exceed all you in the knowledge of the letter and strictnesse of life thereto yet know not the voices of the Prophets nor Moses that gave it forth as is plaine Acts 13. 27. and these had the Scriptures and the Creation also but not having the Word in them by which the Creation was made was led by the Devill Iohn 5. 38 39. 40. Iohn 19. 7. to spend it upon their lusts and though they searched the Scriptures and thought to have eternall life in them yet they crucified him that was the eternall life and brought the Scriptures to do it by thy worke in thy booke nay the Disciples themselves though they had the Scriptures and the book of the Creation and had beene with Christ many yeares yet could not understand the Scriptures till by his Spirit he lightned their understandings as is plaine Luke 24. 45. and this was after his resurrection also and if all these came short till inspired with the Spirit and enlightned and 2 Pet. 3. 16 if all that are unlearned and unstablished with that Spirit wrest all Scriptures to their own destruction then it is plaine that neither Scripture nor Creation can be rightly used without the light of Christ and hough the Scriptures be profitable for the man of God furnishing him for good works yet when the man of Sin reads it he therewith pleads for Sin and furnisheth himselfe against all good works and this is seene largely in thy booke so I say the Spirit is before the letter and is given to lead into all truth without which the Devill turnes the letter into a lie and would tempt with it and 2 Timr 3. 16. 17. so thy literall teaching without the Spirit is little worth and though thy whole drift be all along to deny the Spirit and set up the letter in his stead and to that end hast reckoned up the Names of many of the Saints of God which makes little for thy purpose who were all men that were taught in Spirit need not to run nnto a John 16. 13. booke so seeke their knowledge but had the word of the Lord from Gods own mouth and there was the Oracle whereat they enquired which thou would it make the letter to be who never knew what it was to enquire at his mouth whose Ministry is literall Andthou tellest of many things and the deliverance of God from the envy that was against his people and this thou would set up for a teacher but canst not see the envy against them now and their deliverance as great as ever from all you Woolves that seeke to devour with open mouth thy blind