deluded admirers is like those Nurses who wanting Milke entertaine their children with rattles bibs some insignificant nourriture In reality there seemes to be as much difference betwixt the spirituall food souls receive in the Catholick Church that of Protestants as there is betwixt the nourriture a child receives sucking a breast stretched with milke that he gets by sucking a moistned finger Which shall be further shewen in the CHAPTER XXXVII No Houses of devotion nor spirituall Bookes Amongst Protestants G. B. p. 145. A tentation to become Papists is the solitary retired houses among them for leading a devout strict life the excellent bookes of Devotion have beene publisht by many of that communion p. 147. I deny not that is the greatest defect of the reformation t at there are not in it such encouragements to a devout life p. 148. It is not to be denyed to be agreate defect that we want recluse houses But it fixeth no imputation on our Church her doctrine or worship that shee is soe poore as not to be able to mantaine such Seminarys ANSWER This is as pretty a sophisme of non causa pro causâ as I have seene As if the small number of Inglish Catholicks were richer then the whole body of Protestants for we have founded many geate familyes of Religious you with all your industry could never settle one There are reasons for your Churchs being soe unsuccessefull in these attempts without doubt as reall tru as that which you give is false it shall be my worke to lay them out before you The first cheifest reason is a Judgment of God Almyghty uppon you forbreaking up dispersing soe many houses of Piety God was served in those houses he was offended with that sacriledge there fore denyes you that Blessing of which you are unworthy A second each one had rather keepe his meanes to himself then see them passe against his will to another lay family for whome he hath nokindnesse If any give it to God Religion they designe it should continue there which cannot be expected in Ingland as long as the memory is fresh of Henry VIII Elizabeth A third the foundation of your Reformation is inconsistent with a superstructure of Religion or living in community together Men cannot live together without a setled rule or order establisht peculiar to that manner of life proper for it Your Reformation is inconsistent with this it teaching to reject all humane injunctions as contrary to Christian liberty When out of that principle you have taught men to despise all decrees even of generall counsils received by the whole Church confirmed by the practice of many ages how can you hope they should esteeme Rules given by moderne new men A fourth your doctrine denying all merits or Reward due to our actions Hopes of advantage encourages us to labour our industry is dulled assoone as those vanish S. Ambrose thinks the Novatians unreasonable who preacht Pennance denyed the fruit of it l. 1. de Poenit. c. 16. Frustra dicitis vos praedicare Poenitentiam qui tollitis lib. 2. c. 3. Merendi gratia Sacramenti ad precandum impellimur hoc auferre vultis propter quod agitur Poenitentia Tolle gubernatori perveniendi spem in mediis fluctibus incertus errabit Tolle luctatori coronam lentus jacebit in stadio Tolle piscatori capiendi essicaciam desinet jactare retia In hopes of arriving at his Heaven the Pilot steeres his ship the wrastler strives in hope to throw his adversary The fisher casts his nets in hope of catching some fish All these would relent were they perswaded the thing they aimed at were impossible How then doe you expect that men should practice good workes when you teach them to hope for no good from them It were indeede to be wisht that men would serve God for God without regarding any reward But that is a perfection all doe not arrive to And even the best are faine to use some other motives A fifth your clergy is utterly unfit to Direct Instruct such houses our workes have a greater influence on our neyghbour then our words S. Hierome thought it incongruous that a man with a full belly should preach fasting And how can a man preach chastity to others who comes himself from the embraces of his wife if he hath one or hath his head full of Amourettes designes to get one if he be a batchelour It is in vaine therefore that you seeke the advantage of those with-drawing places from the noyse trouble of the world to those Devout Solitudes your lives are not fit for them your doctrine is inconsistent with them your past actions have shut that dore of mercy unto you As for Bookes of Devotion The Authour of the Fiat Lux says you have printed severall such composed by ours under your owne names Soe you hang us cherish our writings as the Jews stoned the Prophets canonized their bookes You owne we have many excellent Bookes All the world sees you have scarce any nor can rationally hope for any For He who writes a spirituall Booke ought to aime at two things the first to instruct the understanding with divine eternall Truths The second to move the will to a hatred of sin a contempt of the world to the love of God above all things The first may be an effect of study but the second cannot be attained unto unlesse the Authour be such himself He must as S. John be (a) Io. 5.35 a Burning shining lyght Burne to God by a tru unfeigned love of him Shine to men by the cleere truths which he delivers He must feele with in himselfe those motions which he endeavours to communicate to his Reader Si vis me flere dolendum est primum ipsi tibi A soul possest with hope with feare with joy with greife with love with hatred in fine with any passion doth expresse not only the thoughts but the passion it selfe with tropes proper by which meanes it not only informes the understanding but also stirs the will of the hearer or reader to like inclinations Reade Seneca's epistles or other morall workes or Cicero's you shall find agreate many excellent Truths Yet I never knew any man the better in his morality for them As they themselves notwithstanding those lyghts were farre from being Good men as you may see in Lactantius l. 3. divin Instit from the 13. Chapter On the contrary the reading of Saint's workes hath a greate force to move us to Good S. Austin l. 8. Confess cap. 6. says some were converted by reading the life of S. Antony severall have have taken serious resolutions of leading a Christian life by reading those Confessions And I have knowne Several moved to love mentall Prayer by Reading S. Teresa's workes to the love of God by using those of S. Francis de Sales This is
never mentioned Manichaeus ergo the Church on whose word he received the Ghospel was that of his time not that of the Apostles When therefore E. S. pag. 220. says It is plain S. Austin meanes not the Iudgment of the present Church but of the Catholick Church as taking in all ages places he evidently contradicts the very text of S. Ausstin whence I conclude that ether he speakes against his conscience which I am unwilling to beleive or else which is more excusable that he had not reade the text which he understakes to explicate A third yet more improbable explication is delivered by W.L. pag. 82. He speakes it ether of Novices or doubters in the Faith or else of such as were in part Infidels Mr. Fisher the Iesuit at the conference would needs have it that S. Austinspake it even of the faithfull which I cannot yet thinke For he speakes to the Manichees they had a greate part of the Infidell in them And the words immediatly before these are If thou shouldst find one qui Evangelio non credit which did not beleive the Ghospel what wouldest thou doe to make him beleive Thus W. L. This is like wise plainly fals for S. Austin was nether a Novice nor a doubter in the faith nor in part an infidel when he writ that Booke for he writ it after he was made Bishop as you may see l. 2. retract c. 2. But he speakes of himselfe describes the ground of his owne faith ergo he doth not speake of Novices Doubters or halfe Infidels nor describes the ground of their fath but of those who are firme beleivers I prove that S. Austin speakes of his owne Faith shews the ground on which it relyed For first he says I would not beleive the Ghospel without the authority of Catholicks commending them Secondly he says If you weaken the authority of Catholicks I will reject the Ghospel This I beleive Mr. Stillingf saw therefore sayd pag. 220. If you extend this beyond Novices weaklings I shall not oppose you in it And I cannot think that W.L. had reade that place at least with attention when he writ he could not think S. Austin spake of the faithfull Stillingf pag. 220. Nether you nor any Catholick Author is able to prove that S. Austin by these words ever dreamt of any infallible authority in the present Church Answer seing S. Austin expressely says he would renounce the Ghospel if the authority of Catholicks were weakened in him by discovering they had delivered any one lye he must ether think them exempt from all possibility of lying or else he adhered very loosely to the Ghospel I hope E.S. will not assert the later part wherefore he must grant that S. Austin thought the Church free from all possibility of errour Let us returne to Mr. G. B. G. B. pag. 43. Christ's prophetick office is invaded by the pretence of the Churches Infallibility in expounding Scriptures And why Good Sir should the infallibility in expounding Scriptures be an invasion of the prophetick office of Christ seing infallibility in writing them was no such thing Certainly it is more to compose a writing them to understand it as many can understand Cicero's speech pro Milone who cannot compose such an one And your old women pretend to understand severall parts of Scripture which yet I think will scarce undertake to pen the like By this Say you the whole anthority is devolved on the Church No more then it was on S. John when he writ his Ghospel or S. Paul composing his Epistles Nor soe much nether seing these were so assisted as to compose Holy Scripture when the Church only pretends to expound the word of God How doth such an assistance of the divine Spirit derogate from the infallibility of God from which it is derived But her exposition must be admitted say you though contrary to the sense As if Infallibility did not exclude all possibility of such a wrested exposition The infallibility of the Church may slyght your attempts whilest you are armed only with such straws We have seene you arguments Let us see your Answers to ours G. B. pag. 44. The Gates of Hell not prevailing against the Church Mat. 16.18 Proves not the pretence of infallibility Why not learned Sir Not a word for that but as if you had forgotten what you were about your fall uppon the Inglish Translation of that text which you say deserres amendment And I will leave you to be taught better manners by your fellow Ministers or your mother the kirk of Scotland G. B. pag. 45 The spirit leading into all truth Joan. 16.13 advances not the cause a whit since that promise relates to all beleivers Here is another assertion without proofe as if we were bound to take your word Those words are part of the sermon after the last supper at which only the Apostles were present which was directed immediatly to them You should then give some reason why they relate to all beleivers althô spoken to only the Apostles G. B. The Church's being built on the Rocke Peter proves nothing for a series of Bishops of Rome seing the other Apostles were also foundations ANS If it proves all Bishops together Infallible firme in faith as a Rock it confounds your Reformation which is condemned by them all G. B. The keys of the Kingdome of Heaven Mat. 16.19 import no more then that Peter was to open the Ghospel When you shall give in a proofe we will consider it Till then I will beleive not you but Christ who 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 addes the office of the Keys to open shut not the Ghospel but Heaven by loosing binding sins G. B. pag. 46. It is certaine that vice as well as errpr os destrictove of Religion If then there be no authority for repressing of vice but that same of the discipline of the Church it is not incongruous there be no other authority for suppressing of error but that same of the discipline of the Church ANS It is certaine that both in the old new law severall persons have beene secured against Error who were subject to sin S. Peter was truly reprehensible (a) Gal. 2.11 for a thing he did not for any thing he writ or preacht The same of David of Salomon c. For this reason our Blessed Saviour commanded (b) Mat. 23.23 all to follow the Doctrine of the Scribes Pharisys because they sate on the chaire of Moyses but not their example Soe your question why God should provide more against error in faith then against vice in manners can find no place amongst Catholicks who are taught to adore God's holy will even when they understand it not to Bring (c) 2. Cor. 10.5 into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ To you who think it absurd to deny a man the use of his Reason in judging discerning all things submit even Divinely
Latin then Iovis And we see that if Iovis was ever in use it was presently layd by as not Latin when the names ending in A. were never changed As here you make Cicero an Ignoramus in Latin p. 309. soe you give the like character of Plato in Greeke in the Etymology of Minerva or Athena which you bring from Neith thus Neith Thien Then Thena Athena Something like this was this Etymology of Hooper from King Pippin thus Hooper Hopper Happer Dapper Diaper Napkin Nipkin Pipkin K. Pippin You have a Talent in finding Etymologys 't is pitty you doe not practice it more You pretend this Minerva or Athena was a name of the tru God whome the citty Sais in Aegypt adored under the name of Neith Arnobius l. 4. pag. 60. will teach you another lesson that she was a Woman native of Sais ex caeno gurgitibns prodita coagulataque limosis composed of the filthy mud of Nilus uppon whosebanks her native Towne stood You will also see there with what disdaine indignation the rest reject the claime of this Dirty Saitick slut to be the daughter of Iupiter Osyris is also raysed to a name of God whome all hystorys speake to have been a man brother to Isis killed by her husband Typho for Incest with her his body cut in peices scattred in severall places That she with the helpe of Anubis the Captaine of her guards or her cheife Hunts man found them all againe except one which Modesty should have hindred het from seeking as well as me from naming Yet the pretēded Goddesse Isis was so desolate for the losse of this part that to comfort her in her sacred rites a Resemblance of them was shewne to her by her Preists as if they had found that part Osyris then was a man such were Venus Iupiter Minerva Wherefore let us say with the Apostle Rom. 1. The Gentills knew God but adored him not All their Religion being taken up in the cult of Dead men P. 451. You say the Roman Capitol was dedicated to the B. Trinity of whome the Poet sayd Trina in Tarpeio fulgent consortia Templo viz. Iupiter Minerva Iuno pag. 454. so it should be which is marked 414. you find another Trinity in Aegypt Eicton Hemphtha Osyris As if by all threes the Pagans understood the Trinity Had the three Graces three Parkes three Gorgons three Furyes three Iudges three Rivers in Hell or three headed Cerberus or three bodyed Gerion occurred you would have given us more markes of your Talent To confute these dreames what I have sayd is enough seing those persons have once beene Men. That the Platonicians knew the mystery of the B. Trinity we learne of S. Austin But that the Divine persons as One in Nature were exposed even by them to publicke veneration I cannot beleive for the Fathers universally deny the Pagans to have adored the tru God In your whole Booke you endeavour to prove that the unity of God was a prime article of the Pagans Creede I am sorry so much labour should be lost as it must be seing the thing is evidently false To what I have sayd c. 7. s 5. I adde these proofes out of Origen who l. 1. cont Cels p. 5. speakes of laws for Idols Polytheisme 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 pag. 28. he says Prophets were given to the Jews to hinder their falling into Pagans Polytheisme 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 And l. 3. p. 155. he says the Wise Men or Phylosophers fell from the cult of one God to Atheisticall or impious Polytheisme 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 l. 1. pag. 51. he says Aristotle fled to Chalcis fearing the fate of Socrates from the Athenians least these should twice sin against Phylosophy Yet I am more concerned for your owne sake for what you say pag. 256. then for any thing else For there you assure that Origen expresseth l. 5. cont Cels Greate zeale against Christians using the Word Zeus Iupiter for the tru God as acknowledging some Christians to have used it Whereas he says Christians would rather endure any torments then use it 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Your other slips seeme to be mistakes but this is a fault against that sincerity for which I commended you Unlesse as I had rather beleive you tooke that Citation uppon the credit of some other The Iansenists have publisht whole bookes of Fathers to make way for some one sentence and written lives of Saints for one passage resembling their condition Some guesse your booke to be of that nature that Atheisme is only a Stalking horse to conveygh you unobserved to your game Popery so your Booke will be like a Pike which is a long piece of wood to give motion to a little piece of Iron which alone doth the feate J rather beleive what you pretend that it really is designed against Atheisme so like a sword each part serves to wound your Adversary I wish you had not with it mingled those points against Popery which may reflect uppon the rest for men are apt to suspect all when they find themselves once deceived Irenaeus l. 2. c. 24. Non oportet universum ebibere mare cum qui vult discere quoniam aqua ejus salsa est Tasting here there of it is a conviction sufficient In Nabuchodonosor's statu there was a little dirt mingled with the Iron brasse silver Gold all strong or precious except that small parcell which notwithstanding its littlenesse occasioned the ruine of all God forbid any such thing should fall on your Work whose arguments against Atheisme are unanswerable I have such an esteeme of labours against that hyghest Impiety that I should think my time well spent in secking citations or playing the scribe for the workemen But seing my condition doth not permit that I will give you this advice the only helpe withim my power that you consider in the first place whither a thing be tru then what use may be made of it in order to other Truths Non indiget Deus nostro mendacio ut pro illo loquamur dolos says Job 13.7 And S. Greg. l. 11. mor. c. 15. Veritas fulciri non quaerit auxilio falsitatis You thought doubtlesse it would be a greate conviction of Atheists that all Religions publicke laws had establisht the contrary Truth Now this being untru gives an advantage to an Atheist seing you build your assertion on such a quicksand The Argument it more convincing when drawne from that greate Truth delivered by Fathers that all men have a naturall knowledge of one God that so deepely engraven in them that maugre all the strength of laws the rigour of torments the force of bad education the Sophismes of Phylosophers the industry of wickedmen desirous to ease themselves of the remorse of conscience feare of a future Judge the wiles of the Devil it persevered shewed it selfe in certaine occasions so possest the hart as to force the mouth to speake out of its aboundance Certainely this voice of nature triumphing over all the force Art of Men Devils is a cleerer Testimony of one God preserving his possession in over his creatures controuling all adjectitious Notions then any Demonstration man's wit can invent especially some Atheists pretending to invalidate this reason from the notion we have of a God by saying it comes not from Nature but Education Humane Laws which Plea is evidently defeated by this Truth that Laws Religion Custome were once against that Idea of one God all concurring to establish the contrary opinion of many Gods which yet prevailed over them all So the dirt of untruths mingled with the Gold of many greate precious Truths doth in reality weaken those which would be more convincingly drawne from establisht uppon our Principles I wish you good successe in attemps uppon Atheisme as long as you confound not with it any Catholick Truth being Yours as much as Truth will permit W. E. Decemb. 29. 1678.
Dei Charitatem qui Ecclesiae non diligit unitatem Aug. lib. 3. de Baptismo cont Donat. c. 16. And all your pretences of causes given of your separation are but frivolous this taring in peices the mysticall body of Christ is so greate a sacriledge that no pretext can excuse it Apparet sayth S. Austin l. 2. contra Epist Parmeniani c. 11. non esse quicquam gravius sacrilegio schismatis quia praecidendae unitatis nullae est justa necessitas When I saw you reflect on your runing so long round in a circle I hoped you would come out of it was in hopes that ether I mght have beene a spectator of your following course or else that you would have ledde me a more pleasing walke The designe of S. Austin (a) Aug. l. 1. Retract c. 7. came to my mind who represented the Piety of Catholicks the vicious lives of the Manichyes in his two bookes de moribus Ecclesiae Catholicae de moribus Manichaeorum I imagined you myght designe the like in the two parts of this booke I expected you would have given us a Panegyrick of your owne Church after you had spent your Satyricall veine on your invective against ours I thought we should have seene described the Beauty of the Protestant Church the advantages of Communion with it the perfection of its Faith the decency of its ceremonys the Majesty of its Hierarchy the reasonablesse of its canōs the fullnesse of its conducency to Piety in this life Blisse in the next And all these confirmed with examples of the vertuous lives of its devotes But how much have I been mistaken I for casting an eye a little further after some few words in commendation of your Faith I find you throwing dirt againe as fast as before or rather faster as if in the first part you had only essayed what in the second you act in ear nest Doth your Garden the Church Cant. 4.12 is compared to one afford only that one flower Is the soyle so barren or so ill cultivated as none else should be found in it or if there be any other doe they thrive so ill as not to be worth being pointed to Or doth it come from a morosity of nature which inclines you to blame reprehend or from a propensity to entertaine thoughts only of faults imperfections as flyes pitch uppon ulceres some other creatures wallow in mire or from another quality worse then that which turnes all to bad as a foul stomacke turnes all food into peccant humours a spider draws Poyson from that flower whence a Bee draws Hony something of this must be for I will nether say there is nothing reprehensible in the lives of Catholicks it is a propriety of the Triumphant Church to be free from any spot or wrinkle nor that all is bad in Protestant besides their Faith that being the condition of the damned spirits in Hell But I supercede these personal Reflections follow though with little comfort you in the new maze you leade me into CHAPTER XXX Catholick Faith delivered by men divinely inspired Rules to know tru Tradition Faith never changed G.B. pag. 116. The first Character of our Faith is that it was delivered to the world by men sent of God divinely inspired who proved their mission by miracles ANSWER All Divine Faith is built to the veracity of God the men who delivered it at first were but the organs by which God spake their Words were his words When you received the word of God says S. Paul 1. Thess 2.15 Which when you received of us you received it not as the word of men but as it is in truth the word of God Hence those men frequently use that phrase Haec dicit Dominus Thus says the Lord. And Faith is no further a Theologicall vertu then it relyes solely only on the truth Veracity of God as on its formall object as with our Divines out of them Dr. Pearson in his learned explication on the Creede teaches And in this even those men 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Divinely inspired proceded as we doe resolving their Faith into the veracity of God as well as we for their faith was univoca of the some nature with ours with this only difference that the formall object was applyed to them cleerely to us only obscurely The assent to such a mystery in Christ was science or vision not soe in any others he myght say (a) Io. 3.11 We know what we speake quod scimus loquimur quod vidimus testamur we testify what we have seene The rest must say (b) 2. Cor. 4.13 credimus propter quod loquimur We beleive therefore we speake In this manner faith was first spreade in the world I say the Catholick faith not your Protestant faith which as it containes your positive negative articles otherwise it is not Protestant was never delivered by any man divinely inspired but invented by your first Reformers who as I have sayd chap. 22. s 1. taking the whole summe of faith revealed topt lopt off it as much as they pleased from them you have not the Christian but the Protestant faith Fides temporum non Evangeliorum a faith of the times not of the Ghospels says Tertul. Were these the men of God divinely inspired assisted by miracles G. B. pag. 116. The doctrines about which we differ can pretend to no such divine Originall ANS You know we hold this not to be tru we receved all by the some authority from the same hand G. B. pag. 117. What man sent of God was the first Authour of the beleife of the corporall presence of the Sacrisice of the Masse of the Popes supremacy of Purgatory of Indulgences of all those innumerable superstitions of which scripture is absolutely silent ANSWER Christ was a man sent of God he was the first Authour of them G. B. Ibidem If these doctrines were not the off spring of Revelations we cannot be oblidged to beleive them as such ANS Your former legerdemain comes again another conviction of your disingenous proceeding This appeares by these Propositions If the Bible were not the off spring of Revelation we should not be bound to beleive it If Christ were not tru God we should not be bound to adore him as such Could you with patience heare a Pagan with such a slyght undermine the authority of the Bible of the honour doe to Christ Prove what you odiously suggest that the things you wrongfully call superstitions are not revealed you will doe something to the purpose But you are too cunning to attempt any such proofe which you know surpasses your strength And there fore you had rather suppose then prove it that being more proportioned to your capacity Religion G. B. Ibidem They vouch Scriptures for proofe to some of these but these are soe far stretched that their sure retreate is in the Sanctuary