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A89682 An apology for the service of love, and the people that own it, commonly called, the family of love. Being a plain, but groundly discourse, about the right and true Christian religion : set forth dialogue-wise between the citizen, the countreyman, and an exile : as the same was presented to the high court of Parliament, in the time of Queen Elizabeth; and penned by one of her Majesties menial servants, who was in no small esteem with her, for his wisdom and godliness. With another short confession of their faith, made by the same people. And finally some notes & collections, gathered by a private hand out of H.N. upon, or concerning the eight beatitudes. Niclaes, Hendrik, 1502?-1580? 1656 (1656) Wing N1122; Thomason E1610_1; ESTC R210332 24,412 73

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in the holy Scriptures and in the Service of Love He is doubtless out of the true faith of God and Christ and erreth very much and shall not neither now nor hereafter unlesse they repent in time find mercy with God or yet through Christ obtain remission of his sins inherit the kingdom of heaven or yet become saved It is very true therefore consider advisedly of it in time Countrey-man Tell me how comest thou by this understanding or by what means was it made manifest unto thee Exile Through the obedience of the word of God the Father ministred out of the love of Jesus Christ through the holy Spirit of love and in the Crosse of Jesus Christ c. out of which ministration all things needfull to be known so well things natural as spiritual are at large laid open the true discipline frequented all grounds of Religion with all manner of errors nakedly declared the truth manifested And also all people both Christian and Heathen Jew or Gentile or of what Nation or Religion whatsoever c. are lovingly called and warned to repentance and reformation of life likewise fore-warned of the great plagues unlucky misery and wo that will speedily and unawares come upon all unrepenting sinners and licentious Scripture-learned to their utter condemnation in the fire of hell among whom I have been chief and now what am I poor sinner that I should not submit my self to such a gracious warning and repent ere ever Gods heavy wrath and indignation in his righteous judgement fall upon me to my utter destruction Countrey-man But what thinkest thou of our learned Preachers in these our days whilst many of them haply have not heard or read of such a ministration out of love as thou speakest of here or else if they have heard of it they have not perhaps so well considered thereof as it seems thou hast done art thou against them Exile I am against no learned Preacher which advertizeth the people to repentance godlinesse peace obedience and love and so long as they love God and his righteousness they have I suppose all heard of the ministration of Love and have many read and seen of the Books though perhaps they have not understood them effectually or rightly considered the mind of the Author therein for had they so done then would they not verily have spoken so much evil of them as they have done unlesse as I cannot so think as yet they did obstinately hate God and abhor all righteousnesse peace and love neither yet would they have imprisoned not so shamefully slandered so many simple souls which upon admonition from the destruction given them in the Service of Love have had an unfained desire to repent and amend their lives although some of them haply are in certain points through ignorance or fear Countrey-man Wilt thou then take part with and justifie the Author and his Books and so condemn our learned Preachers Exile I will neither take part with nor yet justifie the Author nor yet any of his Bookes but will leave them to answer for themselves neither do I meddle with things therein which are above my capacity Notwithstanding all what I finde therein written or else where that advertiseth me to repentance godliness of life obdience to God and Governours love towards God and my neighbour and peace towards all men according to the Scriptures that must I needs think well of Nevertheless if he or his Books be not able to answer for themselves so then will not I answer for them neither will I before a Law-judge condemn any whether learned or unlearned but leave that unto those unto whom judgement doth belong Countrey-man I cannot mislike thy Answers yet notwithstanding some may haply gather of such like words as thou hast here spoken unto us That the Author of those aforesaid Books with all you that are now tearmed of the Family of Love go altogether about to put down that Religion which her Majesty hath now set up and allowed and to bring it to nought And in so doing forasmuch as she is chief Governess of the same Church c. it may be imaged that ye are so against the State yea and perhaps such like matters have been put either into her Majesties head or else into some of her honorable Counsellors heads And thereupon it is come to passe that you are by some of our learned Preachers tearmed for Libertines yet all this notwithstanding I will not give any rash credit or judgement therein until I have first heard thee speak of it Exile I give you most hearty thanks therefore Then first of all I beseech you let me know what you call the Religion that is set up or at the least wise willed so to be by her Majesty and allowed so shall I the better give you an answer therein according to my simple skill Countrey-man It is to preach the Gospel plainly and sincerely out of Gods holy Spirit that all people learned or unlearned may so well by their life as by their Doctrine understand the same to their endless comfort and salvation and so to express a true belief in God the Father and in Christ our Saviour to expel all idolatry to abandon and abolish all forreign powers to administer the Sacraments and Ceremonies of the Church uniformly in their right Order To obey the Queens Majesty and live under her Laws and humane Ordinances acknowledging her as chief Governess in all causes c. here under Christ in this Realm of England and Ireland c. Exile This certainly is a good Religion were it once generally put in ure notwithstanding whatsoever men list to imagine of us that may they we cannot let them But hear me and I will tell you as it shall be found in the truth Were all his Books of whom we spake rightly considered of with indifferency so should they be found assistances in all to this aforesaid Religion and not hinderances For did the Preachers first and then the people according to his writing and admonition in the Service of Love viz. repent them and follow such counsel as is expressed by him in the same so should no doubt the Gospel then be sincerely preached according to her Majesties mind and the true belief published to the salvation of many All idolatry and forreign power as well inwardly as outwardly expulsed and driven away The Sacraments and Ceremonies of the Church should then be rightly administred The Queens Majesty obeyed not for fear but rather out of love and acknowledged as chief Governess in all causes c. as is meet And which is more the Lords heavy wrath whereof he hath often warned us in the Ministration of Love and alas which also I fear me is at hand for our wickedness cause should then be easily appeased And then yet moreover whereas many times it happeneth that the Prince is taken away for sins cause of the people her Majesty should then reign prosperously amongst us in all