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A32902	A testimony to the fulfilling the promise of God relating to such women who through the pouring out of Gods Spirit upon them are become prophetesses, daughters, and handmaidens and their prophecying, teaching, preaching,and praying through the operation of the Spirit of Christ, in the church proved lawfully by several plain Scripture testimonies and examples, out of both the Old and New Testaments, both under the time of the Law and also in the Gospel despensation, and the common objection alleged against the same from the Apostle Pauls words in I Cor. 14, 34 and I Tim. 2, 12 &c. clearly answered : recommended to the consciences of all that value the testimony of Holy Scripture / by one who hath diligently searched the Scripture, and hath had an high esteem thereof from his youth, Thomas Camm.	Camm, Thomas, 1641-1707.	1689 (1689)	Wing C396A; ESTC R5431	15,913	20

man Praying and Prophecying having his Head covered dishonoureth his Head but every Woman that Prayeth or Prophecyeth with her Head uncovered dishonoureth her Head for that is all one as if she were shaven c. Now he even Paul that gives this direction hath advised to desire after Spiritual Gifts but rather to Prophesie for Prophesie tendeth to the Edification of the Church and the Apostles travel and labour was that the Church might be edified by Prophecying in the Church So its clear he did not forbid the Female that had the Spirit of prophesie to speak in the Church to prophesie and pray in the Church nay he hath given directions how they should demean themselves when they pray and prophesie and saith he You may all speak one by one mark all that all may learn and may be edified God that hath poured out his Spirit is not to be limited in the Male nor Female these four Daughters of Philip's Paul saith did Prophesie God had poured out his Spirit upon them for that end that they might edifie the Church that it might be builded up and established in the most precious Faith of Jesus Christ such Women as were thus endued laboured in the Gospel as well as the Men as may be read in Phil. 4.3 And I entreat thee also true yoke-Fellow help those Women which Laboured with me in the Gospel with Clement also and with other my fellow-Labourers whose names are in the Book of Life Now Paul bid help the Women Labourers in and Publishers of the Gospel and not forbid them to speak nor publish the Gospel in the Church for their names were written in the Book of Life they were come to Christ by him they had Life he had poured out of his Spirit upon these Daughters and Handmaidens and they were in his name by his Power and Spirit to Prophesie to Preach and Teach in the Church to Labour with Paul and Clement in the Gospel● yea Paul was so far from forbidding that he entreats his yoke-fellow to help them yea he commands them to be Teachers of good things as may be seen in Titus 2. But speak thou the things saith Paul to Titus which become sound Doctrine that the aged Men may be Sober Grave Temperate sound in Faith in Charity in Patience The aged VVomen likewise that they be in Behaviour as becometh Holiness not false Accusers not given to much VVine Teachers mark Teachers of good things that they may Teach the young VVomen observe Teach the young Women to be Sober love their Husbands to love their Children to be Discreet Chaste keepers at Home Good Obedient to their Husbands that the VVord of God be not Blasphemed c. Here is good Women Teachers this is blessed Teaching such Teachers are not forbidden to speak in the Church such have Author●● from Christ and the Apostle Paul to be Teachers of good things amongst them with whom they Congregate and Meet for how shall they Teach them with whom they do not meet and where two or three are gathered in the Name and Fear of Christ there is he present there is his Church met together though but two or three and Females here they may yea Paul saith Let the Elder be Teachers of good things to the Younger such as are learned in the School of Christ have received the Spirit of Christ the Spirit of Truth that leads into all Truth and are led thereby acted thereby the Spirit speaking in them may instruct others teach others good things when they are gathered and congregated together yea in the Church Moreover Paul commends Phebe to the Romans as may be read in Rom. 16.1 And again makes mention of her in the Conclusion as followeth I commend saith he unto you Phebe our Sister which is a Servant of the Church which is at Cenchrea written to the Romans from Corinth and sent by Phebe Servant of the Church at Cenchrea here Paul calls Phebe our Sister and Servant that is Minister of the Church at Cenchrea for a Minister is a Servant So here all may see how Paul commends her to the Romans as a Minister of the Church and bids receive her in the Lord as becometh Saints and to assist her not one Word of forbidding her to Speak and Minister no no such as laboured with him in the Gospel was his fellow-Helpers therein his Sisters in the Lord and Companions in his Work and Ministry yea God Almighty through Christ had poured his Spirit upon them all Sons and Daughters Servants and Handmaids they are all therefore to Prophesie Pray Preach and Teach as the Spirit moves leads instructs and gives utterance all is to wait upon God to be filled with the Spirit as Paul directs the Ephesians Ephes 5.18 Be not Drunk with Wine saith he wherein is Excess but be filled with the Spirit c. And further he adviseth not to grieve the Spirit as may be read in Eph. 4.30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God by which you are sealed to the Day of Redemption neither is this Spirit to be quenched nor Prophecying dispised as may be read in 1 Thess 5.19 20. Quench not the Spirit despise not Prophecying now to forbid to speak or command silence where God hath poured out his Spirit upon Daughters and Handmaids is to grieve the Spirit to quench the Spirit to despise Prophecying which Paul adviseth the Ephesians and Thessalonians not to do but to be filled with the Spirit to desire spiritual Gifts and rather to Prophesie and gives the Reason because saith he It tends to Edification Now by what 's above written it s cleared by Scripture Testimonies that Paul did not forbid Women filled with the holy Spirit to Speak and Minister in the Church so those that use Paul's Words against such Womens Speaking or Prophecying in the Church are ignorant of the Spirit that spoke in Paul unlearned by the same knows not the meaning mystery or inward sence thereof but either takes it too Literally or else as the Apostle Peter well observes in 2 Pet. 3.16 Even saith he as our beloved Brother Paul also according to the Wisdom given unto him as also in all his Epistles Speaking in them of these things in which are some things hard to be understood which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest as they do also the other Scriptures unto their own Destruction Now it s such as are unlearned by the Spirit of Truth that leads into all Truth from which Spirit the holy Scriptures were given forth that wrests them for it s not by any other Learning that the heavenly Mystery in holy Writings of the Prophets and Prophetesses Apostles and holy Women can be understood or known it s not all the natural nor acquired Learning that may be got that can do it it s the Inspiration of the Almighty that gives this Knowledge and Understanding it s this Spirit that searcheth out all things yea the deep things of God none can rightly read or

understand the holy Book but such as are come to the holy Spirit according to measure by which holy Men were moved to give forth and write the same that 's the only Key who wants the same are the unlearned and unstable though outwardly never so profoundly Learned and it s they that wrests the Scripture as aforesaid it s such that knows not the fulfilling of that antient and blessed Promise of the Everlasting God in Pouring out of his Spirit upon Sons and Daughters Servants and Handmaidens such forbids both Sons and Daughters yea all besides themselves to Speak Preach or Prophesie in the Church they are not of Moses's mind for he wished all the Lords People Prophets and Paul saith You may all Prophesie one by one and if any thing be revealed to another that sits by let the first hold his Peace but now none must Speak but themselves neither Son nor Daughter neither Servant nor Handmaid although God hath poured his Spirit upon them and said They shall Prophesie Yet notwithstanding such as are made Ministers by Men Ministers of the Letter but ignorant of the Spirit for the love they have to the Gain of their Ministry yea for filthy Lucer sake they forbid all both Men and Women besides themselves and furthermore if any that sits by have any thing revealed and do Speak he or she have been quickly hailed out and often either Beaten Stockt or cast into Prison for three Months by a Law made formerly to guard the Priests of that time as a Disturber And thus while they talk of God and Christ Moses Paul and the holy Scriptures they are acting quite contrary like the Scribes and Pharisees of old who in Words pretended love to God Moses and the Prophets and their Writings and to be waiting for the coming of the Messiah yet when he came they knew him not received him not though Moses and the Prophets were by them read every Sabboth-day that testified of him and they no doubt thought themselves profound in the knowledge of them yet as before said they did not know him nor receive him but crucified him as the greatest of Malefactors and the reason of their Ignorance is rendred the Vail was over their Hearts they knew not the meaning of the Spirit that spoke in the Prophets that testified of the coming of the Just One none that 's ignorant of the meaning of that Spirit that spoke in and through Paul can understand his Writings but either takes them too Literally or else wrests them as beforesaid for whoever draws that Conclusion from Paul's words in the Text before cited that all Females are prohibited to Speak Teach Preach Pray or Prophesie in the Church or Gatherings of God's people do make Paul not only to contradict God Almighty and the Practice of many Godly Women before cited but also himself and his own Testimony for first God hath said They shall Prophesie Christ hath commanded Mary and the other before-mentioned holy Women to preach his Resurrection in the Church to the eleven Apostles and the rest and they did it and we read not that any of the eleven or the rest of the Church then met together did forbid them Moreover Paul himself bids help those Women that laboured in the Gospel and commends Phebe as a Servant which is a Minister of the Church at C●nchera he hath given directions also how the Women are to demean themselves when they Pray or Prophesie and saith he You may all Speak or Prophesie one by one All that have the Spirit poured forth upon them may speak as the Spirit moves and gives utterance But it may be further objected That if it be thus that they may Speak and Prophesie who have the Spirit poured forth upon them who then are they that Paul prohibits or permits not to Speak in the Church 1 Cor. 14.34 and 1 Tim. 2.11 12. where he saith first to the Corinthians Let your Women keep silence in the Church for it s not permitted unto them to speak but they are commanded to be under Obedience as saith the Law and if they will learn any thing let them ask their Husbands at home for it is a shame for a Woman to speak in the Church Now let all seriously weigh the Words of the Text for if the Words must be taken in the Literal sence the Woman is not only prohibited speaking but learning in the Church for it s said If the Woman will learn any thing let her ask her Husband at home And if so it doth not only contradict what God Almighty hath said shall be and what holy Women have practised as before clearly is demonstrated but also Paul himself in the very same Chapter vers 30 31. where he saith If any thing be revealed to another that sitteth by let the first hold his Peace for you may all mark all Prophesie one by one that all may learn mark all may learn and all be comforted Furthermore by the Text Womens Teaching or Prophecying is not prohibited but to speak which speaking must by the Words before related be understood to be Questions tending to strife the disturbance of the Church wherefore it s said Let her ask her Husband at home And such Speaking or Questions tendeth not to Edification Comfort but Disturbance and Contention of which there is no custom in the Churches of Christ And further to manifest that this was Paul's sence hear what he saith to the same Corinthians in Chap. 11. Now in this that I declare unto you I praise you not that you come together not for the better but for the worse for first of all when you come together in the Church I hear that there be Divisions among you and I partly believe it Now it s such speaking as tendeth to Division and Contention that 's for the worse and not for the better in the Church that 's forbidden but teaching good things Praying or Prophecying is for the better praise-worthy tends to Edification and Comfort and hath no tendance to Strife or Contention neither can any reason be rendred that such Women thus Teaching Praying or Prophecying should be refered to learn of their outward Husbands at home besides many have none Further Paul in his second Epistle to Timothy very clearly declares what manner of Speaking and the Spkeaers which are forbidden in the Church hear what he saith Of these things put them in remembrance charging them before the Lord that they strive not about Words to no profit but to the subverting of the Hearers Shun prophane and vain Bablings for they will encrease unto more Vngodliness and their Words will eat as doth a Canker but foolish and unlearned Questions avoid knowing that they gender Strife having a Form of Godliness but denying the Power thereof from such turn away for of this sort are they which creep into Houses and lead captive silly Women loaden with Sins led away with divers Lusts ever learning and never able to

come to the Knowledge of the Truth Here are the Women described that are not permitted to speak in the Church also the Speaking the vain Babling and unlearned Questions that grenders Strife from them that have a form of Godliness but deny the Power such Speakers and speaking is not permitted in the Church this tends not to Edification and Comfort and teaching good things and Prophecying doth that all may do in the Church that hath the Spirit poured upon them But such Questions are not proper or convenient in the Church they usurp Authority that are found in the Practice thereof there 's no such Order or Custom in the Churches of Christ for what 's there done is to be to Edification if Women that are thus idle busie-Bodies and Disorderly shall propose ask or speak any such things or Questions ought not to do it in the Church they are not permitted there but rather let them ask their Husbands or others at home such are unlearned not come to the knowledge of the Truth that sets Free but in the Sin and Bondage in the Transgression and Fall from God where the Subjection is to be kept under and the Husband is to rule over as saith the Law It s a Shame for such to Speak in the Church such are not Witnesses of the Restoration by Christ in whom Male and Female are all one and he in both may Speak in his Church Prophesie in his Church to Edification and Comfort that all may Learn and that all may be Edified and Comforted Secondly As to the Words of Paul to Timothy which are as followeth viz. But I suffer not a Woman to Teach nor Vsurp Authority over the Man but to be in Silence Here is not one word of Teaching in the Church but hath only relation to such as would usurp Authority over the Man which Paul permits not suffers not to teach in that Usurpation but such as are taught by the Spirit he permits and commands to teach others good things to Love and Obey their Husbands not to usurp Authority over them for all that comes to learn of Christ and his good Spirit they learn Meekness Humility and lowliness of Mind and such know how to Honour their Husbands Obey their Husbands and are thereby preserved out of the Usurpation though God by his Spirit that 's not to be limited may make them Instrumental to Instruct their Husbands as he did by Sarah and Abraham her Husband was commanded of God to Obey and Answer what she Taught or Instructed him in yet the Apostle saith She called Abraham her Husband Lord here is no Usurpation there Wherefore its clear that Paul's Words of not permitting or suffering Women to Speak had only relation to the Unlearned Unruly the Usurpers of Authority amongst the Corinthians or other Churches such as usurped Authority over the Man such are to be slent they are not permitted to Speak in the Church they Minister Strife and Contention and there 's no such custom in the Church of Christ Further it may very properly be queried of all Objecters in this wise That if Women must Learn of their Husbands at Home of whom then must they Learn that have no Husbands if there be no other way of Learning then must they be concluded in Ignorance to remain But Philip's four Daughters had no outward Husbands to Learn of Paul saith they were Virgins yet well Learned they did Prophesie wherefore the prohibition by him of not speaking belongs not to nor hath any relation to them nor such other they may notwithstanding Speak and Prophesie in the Church and all others who have the Spirit of Prophesie poured out upon them as the same Spirit moves and gives utterance Now to conclude God Almighty that 's greater then all hath said They shall Prophesie and Daughters and Handmaids have Prophesied both in time of the Law and Gospel Dispensation in the Churches or Congregation Christ the Lord and Law-giver hath Commanded and Commissioned Women to Teach or Preach or Prophesie in the Church as before is clearly demonstrated and they obeyed and practiced moreover Paul hath commended Daughters and Handmaids to the Churches Commanded to receive and assist them and to help those Women that laboured with him in the Gospel they did Prophesie saith he Therefore let all Gain-sayers and Contradictors of God Alimighty of Christ Jesus the Lord and Law-giver and the Apostle Paul cease therefrom and stop their Mouths for ever and let the Unlearned and Unstable cease to pervert or wrest the Holy Scriptures for such know not the meaning of the Spirit that spoke in the Prophets and Apostles Holy Men and Women that have given out the Holy Scriptures by Inspiration of God and is profitable for Doctrine for Reproof for Correction for Instruction in Righteousness and are able to make wise unto Salvation through Faith which is in Christ Jesus that the Man of God may be perfect throughly furnished unto all good Works Glory to God for the unspeakable Comfort thereof administered through the Holy Spirit A POSTSCRIPT of some Testimonies shewing that the Apostles Precepts against Womens Speaking was not universal and that Women have had a Service in the universal Church in several Ages BEfore the Law was given Miriam was given for a Prophetess Exod. 15.20 Mica 6.4 And among the Gentiles under the Law of Nature as 't is called the Sibyls in several Ages prophesied Augustin saith By the same Spirit of God that the Prophets did to the Jews Decivit dei l. 18. c. 18. And Bishop Montagues writes a whole Book about that matter Acts and Monuments before Christ the 9th Book And for Womens Services under the Law and under the Gospel Bishop John Bridges writes near a whole Book Defence c. 9th Book where he shews that though Calvin was the vehementest against Womens Teaching of all that he had read yet he makes his concession this That as necessity might require this Precept of Paul of the ordinary course maketh no absolute debar to all manner of Women but that now and then some may speak lawfully Yea and their Voice is requisit even in the most sacred publick and greatest Assemblies of the Churches The said J. Bridges also brings the further Concessions of Peter Martyr Musculus Marlorat Alesius Aretius and other emnient Teachers all granting Paul's precept not to be an universal restraint bringing the Examples of Women under the Law as well as Gospel times for instances as Philip's Daughters Anna Deborah Hulda Hannab The Womans Claim Deut. 25.7 9. Abigal the Woman of Abel 2 Sam. 20.18 The Mother of the seven Sons 2 Mac. 7. Judith The Woman Luk. 11.27 The Virgin Mary The Woman Matth. 9.20 and Luke 8.44 The Woman of Canaan Matth. 15.22 The Woman of Samaria Miriam Elizabeth Samson's Mother Judg. 13.22 The captive Maid 2 Kings 5.2 and others That though they be under subjection yet they may speak counsel and teach So Bridges says Defence lib. 1. which I

have heard was set out in Churches That Extraordinary Gifts are not altogether ceased in the Church Gualter an Entertainer and Adviser of Queen Elizabeth's Bishops on Rom. 16. says Paul is not ashamed to call Priscilla his fellow-Helper not ashamed of a Woman at the Church of Rome whose Faith was spoken of through the World. That she was the first named because perhaps she was first converted and more known afterwards instructing her Husband they expounded the Way of the Lord to Apollos and without doubt to many others making their House a publick Meeting-House in time of Persecution Augustin saith Every Father and Mother in a Family should play the Bishop So Gualter called the learned who speaks there much against the haughtiness of the Clergy despising mean helps knowing that in Jesus Christ there is neither Male nor Female So Dr. Cave says Prim. Christ part 1. c. 8. He meets with frequent mention of Deaconesses in ancient Writings as Phebe two Maids in Pliny's Letter to the Emperor Clem. Alex. strom l. 3. Of 〈…〉 calls them She 〈…〉 W. Tindal that famous Martyr in his Answer to Sr Thomas Moor pag. 322. and 287. says In some cases Women may Teach and Baptize and Rule their Husbands too if they be besides themselves Yea says he if Histories be true Women have preached since the opening of the New-Testament And in four Historians of the ancient Church Socrat. l. 1. c. 16. Theod. l. 1. c. 24. Sozom. l. 2. c. 6. Niceph. l. 8. c. 34. we find that a Woman converted the Nation of the Iberes who first converted the King then he preached to the men and she and the Queen to the Women Puffinus saith he received it from Bocurius their first Ruler And even in declining and corrupter times mention is made in Histories what liberty Women had in some Councils As in Wilfrid Samms Brit. a chief Bishops time when he would excommunicate the Scots and Northern English because they would not receive the Romish Rites Hilda Abbess of Whitby in Yorkshire withstood him Illyricus test verit And also in his time in a Council at Baconkeld five Kentish Abesses were not only present but subscribed their Names above all Presbyters and a Bishop G. G. Brit. ch hist Cent. 7. And Illyricus mentions another English Abbess that wrote to the Pope in defence of Ancient Canons And Heldegardis she instructed the Pope in his Life Prophesied c. whom Ja. Max●ell in his Book of Prophesies dedicated to K. James's Bishops produces with many other Women And in the Council of Trent it was confessed That the Service of women in the Church was degenerated Hist Counc of Trent l. 2. In the year 1414. Joan VVhite taught spread her husbands doctrine J. Fox Martyr And Dr. Rol. Taylor speaks of Womens Services In the last Age a Woman was principal Ordinary in the Church hers and in her time there remained Permission for Women to Baptize as well as in her Sisters time Conference at Hampton-Court and I find nothing but there doth yet and then why not to Preach For many therein are permitted to Preach yet not to Baptize And t is a Rule that they that may do the greater may do the lesser However they are not only permitted but commanded in the Liturgies Rubrick to speak in the repetition of the Creed Responses Psalms c. if they be of the Congregation though not Prophe●eises For all are not Prophets Paul says whose restraint therefore is not universal confessed by Judgment and Practice but on occasion of Abuse as Jerom says and Calvin too RICHARD RICHARDSON THE END