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A55293 Moses and Aaron, or, The ministers right and the magistrates duty vindicated from the exceptions made against both by Richard Kingsnoth, in a late book of his entitled, The true tything of the Gospel-ministers / by Daniel Pointel ... Pointel, Daniel, d. 1674. 1657 (1657) Wing P2741; ESTC R4455 113,893 137

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