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A76289 A briefe ansvver to R.H. his booke, entitled, The true guide, &c. Wherein are occasionally declared and proved by Scripture these particular things following: [brace] first, that the baptisme of water is a distinct baptisme from the baptisme of the spirit. ... Sixthly, in what sense some things related in Scripture are not Scripture, with divers other particulars occasionally spoken of. / By R.B. a well-wisher to the truth, and R.H. R. B., Well-wisher to the truth. 1646 (1646) Wing B159; Thomason E357_2; ESTC R16628 31,113 40

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and Pharisees in his time and this hath been the lot of the Church in all ages the true members thereof were called Hereticke and Schismaticks and is it not a matter of great zeale at this day for many Ministers to raise at Gods people and call them Antinomians Anabaptists Separatists c. and such reproachfull tearmes to render them odious Therefore saith Doctor Sibbs further It is the poysinfull pride of mans heart when it cannot raise it selfe by its man worth it will endeavour to raise it selfe by the ruine of others credit through lying slanders The Devill was first a slanderer and lyer and then a murtherer he cannot murther except he slander first even as those that kill a Dogge make the world beleeve that he was mad first so they alwaies take away the credit of the faithfull in the world and then persecute them and so those watchmen that should encourage the godly they smite and wound them To conclude were it not for the just vindication of the Truth of our selves and others I would never have put Pen to Paper but he hath compelled me as Paul was in a like case by the Corinthians to his just vindication 2 Cor. 12.11 saith he I am become a foole in glorying ye have compelled me for I ought to have been commended of you And so St. Paul was faine to goe contrary to Solomon counsell Pro. 27.2 and praise himselfe to vindicate both the Truth and himselfe A little further in Pag. 22. he saith They much desire and pray for 〈◊〉 Answ I beleeve his desires and prayers are rather that we should returne to them and their waies then to Christ but certaine it is if he do pray for us either his praying for us will make him cease persecuting of us or his persecuting will make him cease praying for us He saith We further object and bring many Scriptures to perswade people to stand fast in the Truth they have been taught but they have not been taught the Truth but have been taught a false and blind way by your Ministers He answers It is a very false and scandalous imputation cast upon the faithfull Ministers of Jesus Christ for have they not taught us Jesus Christ that we are freely justified and saved by him alone I answer here first R. H. labours to vindicate his faithfull Ministers about their Doctrine It is very well I say if they do teach free Justification and Salvation by Christ alone I can remember the time since it was a rare thing to heare free-grace preached especially in the practicall part of Divinity I my selfe have heard delivered in London not long since at a Fast that true repentance and humiliation was able to remove Gods judgements which if it be so I marvell to what purpose Christ serves for and one even of R. H. his intimate companions is not very well instructed in that point for I have heard him say divers times not long since that the more good workes he did the greater glory he should have at last in Heaven so laying the height of his glory on the foundation of his good workes building this Babell on Nehe. 13.14 so that he may thank his good workes at least for the height of his glory But I would desire them to shew me what measure of glory is given freely without any respect to workes and what glory is intailed to workes But suppose it be granted they teach Jesus Christ more purely than formerly yet I have observed that the men that were as he Goats in the Doctrine of Gods free grace and love were as odious at the first as ever Martin Luther was in his time yea and still are too many that remaine of R. H. his mind for he doth what he can to disgrace the teachers of it still by his Calumniations as may plainly appeare in his Booke Pag. 9. and they can hardly forbeare bringing in Moses Law of workes in Moses way of administration whereas we are only under the Law to Christ 1 Cor. 9.21 If it were not so why do they so raile against Gods people under the name of Antinomians He saith We object and say your Ministers are Antichristian for they were called by an Antichristian power there fore it is not lawfull to heare them He answers that must be proved first which you say c. I answer had R. H. been indeed but a True Guide he would have been punctuall in proving this point especially it being the chiefe point in difference betwixt us and the maine thing he aimes at in his Book as I said in the beginning but certaine it is the man was at a stand here and was faine to be of a good beliefe and take things upon trust and would have others do so too but observe the way he takes to prove the point and to answer the objection he goes foure wayes and all wrong for he brings not one proofe of Scripture positively to prove his Ministers lawfull But First He puts us upon negative proofes Secondly He compares them with other teachers Thirdly By two fabulous similitudes of a Cooke and a Clarke Fourthly By answering three questions So that here is not one rule from Scripture to prove it and so he makes himselfe a seducer in his first answer to the last question Page 5. of his Booke Wherefore I answer To the first of his foure things I have in a sense answered already by declaring the necessity of a mans proving his practice positively by Scripture which holds forth a rule for all lawfull practice and not to require negative proofes from others for that is not Gods way To the second thing where he compares them with other Teachers I suppose he meanes Teachers by vertue of Office and so we have none of any higher calling then R. H. when he himselfe teaches but if he will rightly compare his Ministers to find whether they are Ministers of Christ or of Antichrist let him go to Scripture-patterne for all inward and outward qualifications for Christs Ministers or Pastors according to that Isa 8.20 To the Law and to the Testimony if they walke not according to this rule it is because there is no light in them For what the Prophet saith of speaking I may say of practice and 1 John 2.24 Let that therefore abide in you to be practised certainly which ye have heard from the beginning if that abide in you which ye have heard from the beginning ye shall continue in the Son and in the Father now this is a way without exception To his third thing verily one similitude hath as much authority as another therefore consider that as it is not lawfull for any person without commission and authority from the King to use and apply the Kings Seale to convey any assurance in worldly matters even so it is not lawfull for any man having no calling or commission from Christ to take upon him the administration of such Ordinances of Christ that never were
administred by any without such calling and commission from Christ To his fourth which is by asking three questions to which I answer by asking them other questions First whether the inward call without the outward be sufficient or whether God joyned not the inward and outward together to make it a sufficient call Secondly Whether God allow of any calling besides his own whether inward or outward and whether either of these allowed of by God being corrupted whether then it be Gods or no Thirdly Whether there be any difference betwixt a man that hath a corrupt calling to an Office not warranted by God and a man that hath no calling to an Office but suppose he that hath a corrupt calling and he that hath no calling should preach by vertue of a true calling before they have it should I be guiltlesse and yet constantly by my presence and practice allow of that which God allowes not of should not I be guilty of all corrupt Officers standing ever since the time of Antichrist and so come under that Sentence of Christ Luke 11.48 Truly saith he ye beare witnesse that ye allow the deeds of your Fathers and doth not a litle leaven leaven the whole lump being unpurged 1 Cor. 5 6 7. or may some corruption be let alone unpurged or may we in some things be guilty of allowing the deeds of our Fathers and not in others To conclude If men may remaine lawfull Ministers notwithstanding their corrupt calling from men and cannot as R. H. saith corrupt the Word of God Whether are not they lawfull Ministers that have their calling in the Church of Rome and so may lawfully be heard But marke how he reasons Why saith he were not Martin Luthers workes rejected but embraced Answ Why must R. H. needs be allowed a true Minister of those that embrace his Booke Do but take notice here how he also labours to justifie the Popish calling which I made mention of for Luther had his outward calling there Next he brings in Balaam a false Prophet to prove a true Minister Num. 23.21 but as Balaams speaking some truths from the mouth of the Lord made him not a true Prophet even so many truths delivered by others doth not make them true Ministers for Balaam had as good and better will to curse than to blesse Gods people he was very desirous to make them miserable for filthy lucres sake even as there be many in these daies too like Balaam in this witnesse their railing Bookes and Sermons against Gods people as if they were unwilling they should live in the world by them but it is but the old Antichristian practice Rev. 15.17 In his last Page he pleads earnestly for and encourages people to the Ministry of the Word and so do I also but that is not the difference betwixt us but our difference lies here he would have people beleeve the true Ministery to be no where else but with them in their way as if they only had this open doores he speaks of Rev. 3.8 10.11.12 he leaves out the 9. verse for feare it would have beat hard upon his quarters but certainly the Word of God in the publike Ministry as he calls it neither came to them only nor from them only 1 Cor. 14.36 Besides he must first prove his Church and Ministry to be the Philadelphian State before he lay claime to the open doore for that is the Philadelphian Churches promise for each Church had its peculiar promise as may be seene Rev. 2 3. Chapters And truly I conceive R. H. to be yet a stranger to the glory of this Philadelphian State but I desire that both he and I may see the right sense of that place who they are that God hath or shall betrust with that open doore but sure I am it is a doore to the new Jerusalem and not the old nationall earthly one These things I thought good to returne in answer to R. H. his True Guide in the behalfe of our selves and others for our just vindication and desire the Lord to indue him and the rest of our opposites with the spirit of Christian wisdome moderation and peace and for this purpose let them mind that experimented Counsell of Gamaliel Acts 5.35 Take heed to your selves what ye intend to do as touching these men and so ver 38 39. Refraine from these men and let them alone for if this Counsell or worke be of men it will come to nought but if it be of God ye cannot overthrow it least happily ye be found even to fight against God Let them I say consider these things that so we may live at peace by them and they by us untill the God of peace truth and love draw up all the Saints to himselfe in him who is truth it selfe the Lord Jesus by a fuller making out of Truth so long obscured that so we may become one in Truth and in the meane time one in peace and love and this shall be the constant desire of him who earnestly follows after the enjoyment of Peace Truth and Love in one Lord Jesus Christ FINIS