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A42815 A further discovery of M. Stubbe in a brief reply to his last pamphlet against Jos. Glanvill. Glanvill, Joseph, 1636-1680.; Stubbe, Henry, 1632-1676. 1671 (1671) Wing G811; ESTC R23379 27,570 40

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