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A90624 A vindication of The preacher sent, or A vvarrant for publick preaching without ordination. Wherein is further discovered. 1. That some gifted men unordained, are Gospel preachers. 2. That officers sustain not a relation (as officers) to the universal Church; and other weighty questions concerning election and ordination, are opened and cleared. In answer to two books. 1. Vindiciæ ministrij evangelici revindicatæ or the Preacher (pretendly) sent, sent back again. By Dr. Colling of Norwich. 2. Quo warranto, or a moderate enquiry into the warrantableness of the preaching of gifted and unordained persons. By Mr. Pool, at the desire and appointment of the Provincial Assembly of London. With a reply to the exceptions of Mr. Hudson and Dr. Collings against the epistle to the preacher sent. / Published by Frederick Woodal, minister of the Gospel at Woodbridge in Suffolk. Samuel Petto minister of the GospeI [sic] at Sandcraft in Suffolk. Woodall, Frederick, b. 1614.; Petto, Samuel, 1624?-1711. 1659 (1659) Wing P1902; Thomason E1728_2; ESTC R204138 152,808 253

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pag._n 25._o if_o this_o whole_a argument_n be_v grant_v nothing_o be_v gain_v by_o it_o against_o the_o proposition_n for_o his_o conclusion_n be_v only_o this_o ergo_fw-la the_o office_n and_o employment_n according_a to_o logic_n be_v relation_n whereas_o if_o it_o have_v conclude_v the_o
etc._n the_o apostle_n be_v set_v in_o corinth_n though_o not_o limit_v or_o confine_v to_o that_o church_n all_o the_o strength_n of_o their_o argument_n from_o 1_o cor._n 12._o 28._o depend_v upon_o the_o apostle_n speak_v in_o the_o singular_a number_n the_o church_n have_v it_o be_v say_v god_n have_v set_v in_o the_o churches_n etc._n etc._n there_o can_v have_v be_v no_o shadow_n of_o a_o argument_n hence_o for_o their_o be_v officer_n to_o a_o universal_a church_n and_o see_v in_o the_o same_o chapter_n ver_fw-la 12._o 14._o 17._o etc._n etc._n he_o speak_v in_o the_o singular_a number_n the_o body_n the_o body_n and_o the_o whole_a body_n and_o yet_o all_o natural_a body_n do_v not_o make_v one_o body_n and_o ver_fw-la 18._o god_n set_v the_o member_n in_o the_o body_n etc._n etc._n yet_o there_o be_v no_o catholic_n body_n how_o can_v his_o speak_n in_o the_o singular_a number_n the_o church_n for_o 28._o and_o that_o in_o the_o application_n of_o the_o same_o similitude_n prove_v a_o catholic_n church_n make_v up_o of_o all_o church_n to_o evidence_n that_o the_o sin_n of_o a_o people_n may_v nullify_v the_o office_n of_o a_o minister_n which_o they_o deny_v jus_fw-la diu._n min._n pag._n 146_o we_o ask_v whether_o if_o they_o murder_v he_o will_v not_o this_o nullify_v his_o office_n and_o if_o so_o why_o may_v not_o their_o sin_n other_o way_n make_v void_a the_o office_n also_o object_n mr._n poole_n say_v we_o confound_v the_o nullify_n of_o the_o office_n and_o the_o hinder_v the_o exercise_n of_o it_o 2._o he_o demand_v whether_o this_o hold_n of_o the_o apostle_n or_o no_o whether_o if_o the_o catholic_a church_n be_v confine_v to_o one_o congregation_n and_o that_o prove_v heretical_a and_o vote_v down_o the_o apostle_n will_v this_o make_v their_o office_n null_n or_o no_o he_o say_v this_o follow_v upon_o our_o principle_n for_o the_o church_n the_o correlate_n cease_v they_o must_v needs_o cease_v also_o &_o ejusdem_fw-la est_fw-la 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that_o shall_v impartial_o read_v our_o book_n may_v see_v 2._o the_o apostle_n be_v extraordinary_a officer_n our_o question_n be_v only_o about_o ordinary_a officer_n the_o apostle_n be_v neither_o of_o man_n nor_o by_o man_n but_o be_v make_v by_o a_o extraordinary_a call_n of_o christ_n and_o so_o it_o do_v belong_v only_o to_o christ_n to_o null_n their_o office_n because_o ejusdem_fw-la est_fw-la instituere_fw-la &_o destituere_fw-la but_o we_o can_v but_o complain_v that_o mr._n poole_n have_v here_o offer_v abundance_n of_o wrong_n to_o we_o in_o report_v to_o the_o world_n that_o we_o say_v apostle_n be_v constitute_v officer_n by_o the_o church_n allege_v act._n 1._o and_o not_o content_v himself_o with_o sayit_n once_o he_o come_v over_o with_o it_o again_o towards_o the_o end_n of_o pag._n 32._o of_o his_o book_n whereas_o we_o have_v express_v the_o contrary_a and_o that_o in_o express_a term_n in_o speak_v to_o act_v 1._o which_o he_o say_v we_o allege_v for_o it_o let_v 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