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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A32898	An old apostate justly exposed his treachery to the Holy God, his truth and people manifested, his great wickedness and uncleanness (which, by false covers, he has endeavoured to hide) laid open to the shame of him, and all his abettors : in a short answer, or some brief remarks, upon a very scandalous book lately published, stiled, The spirit of Quakerism, and the danger of their divine revelation laid open, subscribed, Henry Winder : also the nameless publisher therof, as justly reprehended for his enmity and great malice, in abusing an innocent people, by heaps of most gross lies, slanders, base insinuations and inferences, frothy and scurrilous scoffs and taunts, so void of Christianity, that probably no man, with a name, would undertake / by Thomas Camm.	Camm, Thomas, 1641-1707.	1698 (1698)	Wing C396; ESTC R21826	31,372	63

But that all Men as well as those called Quakers are as Men liable to err if they forsake the Conduct of that Eternal Uunchangeable Uunerring Spirit of Truth which leads into all Truth and is able to preserve out of all Error which these Men our Opposers slights and reviles 3. Cursed pretence to Divine Inspiration the strongest Hold of the Devil Answ Let him keep his cursed Pretence to himself Divine Inspiration we experience the Inspiration of the Almighty with the Effects thereof blessed be God according to Scripture To call which the strongest Hold of the Devil is not only a Lye but Blasphemy 4. Who knew all this Story 23 Years ago and should have disclaimed the Actors but did not c. Answ All the Story of H. W's as in his Book was never known before written nor could be because many things therein inserted were not true being Stuff added to amuse the Reader and abuse the Quakers It 's evident before that what was to be disclaimed was then done and in Testimony thereof tho' it discover his Enmity and Contradictions he has made some Acknowledgment in Page 24. viz. Some Friends who at the first Assizes persuaded the Women to do him Right by Confessing c. Next I shall repeat a whole heap of Lyes and Slanders which as he says he takes out of what he calls A further Essay by a learned peaceable compassionate Friend of ours wherein he saith He proves c. But I say Is not yet proved nor can be 5. From their many Impertinences and Nonsence in their Books which cannot without Blasphemy be attributed to the Holy Spirit 6. From the many flat Contradictions of one inspired Pretender unto another especially their Women 7. Their scurrilous Railing at their best Opposers 8. Their apparent Contradictions to plain Scripture 9. Miserable Perversions and gross Misinterpretations of Scripture 10. Their Noval Opinions not heard of before in the Church of Christ 11. The allowed Novelty of their Sect having no pretence to Succession 12. Their many Doctrines calculated to serve Popery instanced in Nine Heads of Doctrine wherein they agree with Papists against Scripture 13. Notorious Possessions and Witchcrafts 14. Many gross Blasphemies uttered by those so Inspired 15. VVallowing in gross unnatural Sins 16. VVild Attempts of long Fasting and Miracles 17. Contradiction to all other good Christians All which before-said I take out of less than two Leaves of the Preface to the Book aforesaid enough if there were no more for this nameless Publisher and him he calls our Learned Peaceable Compassionate Friend turning them all back as gross Lyes and impudent Slanders For which he that sits in Heaven will rebuke them And tho' the Publisher have Rabshacah like opened his Mouth wide against the Lord and his innocent People yet I shall in the Name and on Behalf of that People tell him his evil Design will be frustrated and his Eyes grow dim and Heart fail before he can ever prove what he hath wrongfully charged And I shall farther Answer them in the Words of Israel's God through his Servant Isaiah Chap. 37. Ver. 22 23. viz. This is the word which the Lord hath spoken concerning him The Virgin the Daughter of Zion hath despised thee and laughed thee to scorn the Daughter of Jerusalem hath shaken her head against thee Whom hast thou reproached and blasphemed And against whom hast thou exalted thy Voice and lifted up thine Eyes on high Even against the Holy One of Israel 18. In Page 23. A strange Story this is Reader indeed and beyond the Power even of Quakers Impudency to deny since it was so long transacting so many Friends concerned in it c. Answ I say it is the Publisher's Impudency to cast upon the Quakers and a great Lye to say so many Friends were concerned it 19. In Page 28. What think of you these dear Sisters true Quakers they were and owned as such to the last Answ I say It 's not only a filthy Taunt but a shameful Lye 20. In Page 28. How many Christ's and Saviours will this People at length produce 21. In the same Page mentioning the Terms and Way of his meaning Christ's saving viz. They must value his Blood and submit to the Rule of his Word But the Quakers saith he like not such Terms therefore will have a Second meaning Christ or a Saviour 22. In same Page he saith Now shall we marvel that Quakers offer us a new Creed or Christianity and scorn our old Bible 23. Again in the same Page When their Spirit says we must have a Second Saviour a Carnal One too and who is within none but a single VVoman 24. Again in the same Page he saith VVas a fit Brother for their Christ within c. 25. In the same 28th Page he saith Is this all No we have more Christs among them c. See now Reader what heaps of Lyes this obscure railing Man belcheth forth to his shame And tho' he hide himself from Men by concealing his Name the Righteous God will find him out to Reward him according to his Works I deny them all as impudent Lyes But to proceed 26. In Page 32 he saith Then your Spirit Fancy or Flatus is your Supreme Rule c. Answ I say A horrid Lye and Slander That Spirit which leads into all Truth is that which we have always owned to be our Supreme Rule which if he had been led by would not have uttered so many Lyes and Slanders which manifests him to be of his Father the Devil who was a Lyer from the beginning 27. In Page 34 he faith So G. F. had the Humility to receive Adoration and VVorship c. Which I say is also another of his gross Lyes upon the Dead 28. In Page 35 he faith VVill G. F. deny it VVho declared himself equal with God and received VVorship c. I say It 's also another impudent Lye cast upon the Dead Let him prove what he charges 29. Again in same Page he saith As their meaning the Quakers Infallibility consists with Lyes and Self-Contradiction so can their Perfection stand with most abominable VVickedness c. Answ I say His Slander herein is abominable The Infallibility of the Eternal Spirit of Truth admits of no Lye nor Contradiction neither can abominable Wickedness stand with the Perfection that is the Product or Work of the Holy Ghost or Spirit in all true Believers in the Lord Jesus Christ And we cannot but bear Testimony against abominable Wickedness and all such as wallow therein as H. W. and other Apostates which makes them and this their obscure Publisher so grievous Angry to load us with so many Calumnies 30. In Page 37 he saith That Jesus descibed in Scripture was to seal up Vision and Prophecy Dan 9.24 Or to give such perfect discovery of God's Counsel and Will to the World that the Spirits extraordinary Gifts of Illumination should be no more necessary nor continued But the Quakers by

but the Son and he to whom the Son Reveals him And this Revelation is the Divine and the very same Divine Revelation is what the Quakers own and are not Ashamed of and is great wickedness in thee to count it Dangerous or inconsistent with Scripture-Testimony Thou calls thy Book A Faithful Narrative of their meaning the Quakers Malicious Persecution of H. W. and his Wife as Murtherers at the publick Assize at Carlisle Answ The Narrative is neither Faithful nor True but greatly Malicious as it is given in so general Terms against the Quakers and in part Aggravated as to the three Women mentioned by name as may more fully appear in what follows Thou begins thy Preface thus viz. Being desired by Persons of Worth and Eminency to give a Publick Account c. At last I assented say'st thou to their Importunities c. Answ Persons of either Worth or Eminency by what follows I doubt not will have good cause to detest thy Abominable Wickedness and conclude thou hast justly Exposed thy self and all thy publick Abettors to great and publick Infamy Thou adds The wrong they have done me was a sufficient Incentive to have bent all my Strength to have made all their Villainy as Notorious as possible nevertheless they see and the World sees how slow I have been to do it Then gives 1st 2d and 3d. Reasons therefore Answ The Quakers had done thee no wrong and it 's yet Questionable whether the three Women though wrong in their management against him and might miss in some Circumstances have wronged him in the main it 's known to God and his own Conscience to whom I leave the Judgment thereof desiring the Readers Patience and to suspend his Judging thereof until he has Read and Seriously Considered what the said H. W. and Wife have given under their hands with what else is herein after Inserted relating thereto and the World has seen and under his hand we have an Account of what he has done to the said three Women and their Husbands and also may now see what he has done to the Quakers and if the Malice that may yet rest in his or the Hearts of his Abettors can do more let them do it quickly His Reasons pretended for his Slowness are Idle Impertinent and Fallacious For will not Wise Men judge it more seasonable to Detect Persons for wrong when Living and Capable either of Defence or making Satisfaction neither of which the Dead can do and his now Trampling upon their Graves is no good sign of Innocency but I shall only ask him if there was not some other Reasons 1st Was his Heart before now grown hard enough for such a work And 2dly Whether he presumed that length of time had not buried the Memory of his Wickedness and made a prey of what he had written and said relating to the Demonstration thereof 3dly Whether he was not too far prevailed upon by some of those People amongst whom he now walks who are apt enough I say some Hot Heads amongst them I make that distinction because I know there are Sober-minded amongst them and as I hear are not pleased with his Book and perhaps will find cause to be more displeased to catch at any thing tho' never so Dirty if they can but throw it at the Despised People called Quakers And doth not his saying At last I assented to their Importunities and that kind of Sorrowful or Lamenting Saying of his Wife viz. Ah we were put upon it or else we had never done it greatly demonstrate that they have now of late been too far prevailed upon and persuaded to what they have done to the gratifying of a Wrathful Spirit in which work they will never be Blessed but will undoubtedly meet with Shame I shall take notice of some Passages of what I find given as his second Reason for his Slowness yet not because it is either Reasonable or Pertinent to that matter viz. But afterward thought it a dignity far surpassing my deserts that God should chuse me his Instrument to Fight this Battel c. And when I consider saith he what Persons our Saviour chose for his Great Apostles c. Answ O Impudent Man would he be taken for God's chosen Instrument no sure he must be a cleaner Man first and our Blessed Saviour Holy Jesus chose neither Whoremongers not Adulterers for his Great Apostles no their Greatness stood in Holiness and Whoremongers and Adulterers have no place in the Kingdom of Christ no the God that chose him unclean Man is the God of the World who has such Instruments to Battel with the Lamb and his followers and the dignity that he gets by this his Work will appear by what follows I now come to his Narrative passing by at present what the Publisher adds to the Preface Intending in its proper season to take notice of what the Nameless Publisher adds there and elsewhere In Page the 2d H. W. on behalf of Himself and Wife saith But being Conscious of our perfect Innocency we made our appeal to the Searcher of Hearts c. Again in Page the 3d. We know no guilt you are false Prophetesses c. In Page the 11th A Burthen Intolerable had I not been supported by a God of Truth and a clear Conscience In Answer to all which I offer what follows taken out of their own Papers viz. H. W. and Wife and owned very late so to be by them or the one of them before several Witnesses whose Names are after Inserted which Papers are Dated from the Year 1674. about the time that our Friends had denied them for their Scandalous Wickedness And Wrath and Judgment from the Lord being upon them therefore they Writ and gave under their Hands two Papers as followeth Oh! Dearly Beloved and Chosen of God ye are the Children of the most High God and Church of whom Christ is Head Hear us we pray you and we shall discover our Hearts to you First we Acknowledge and Confess that we have Sinned and Transgressed against the Lord God and against his People who have born grievous Burthens for us we must needs confess before you But this know Dear Friends that the Enemy wrought in a Mistery in us to the persuading of us that we might do such things and yet Live then through the weakness of the Flesh Sin took Occasion and overcame us then Sin being committed it brought forth Death to the Innocent Life which we once Lived in then the Lord hid his Presence from us which we once Injoyed and left us to our selves then we were as Sheep without a Shepherd wandering upon the Barren Mountains where there was no Food for the Soul so let us be a Warning to all Backsliders and those that turn from the Grace of God into any Unrighteousness For there will be a losing of the Presence of the Lord and of the Incomes of his Love unto the Soul which is the greatest Loss of all Losses c.

For when Lust was conceived in us it brought forth Sin and when Sin was finished it brought forth Death c. The Lord made known himself unto us both by his Inward Working in us and by his Messenger unto us Margaret Bradley who is a Faithful Servant of God and a Lover of our Souls who hath Travelled in pain for us c. The Lord Reward her for her Faithfulness between the Lord and us as no doubt but he hath Rewarded her already Ah! you Beloved of us we do this Acknowledge and Confess that we have been such a grievous Burthen and Shame unto you in giving so great Occasion to the Enemy c. Besides you were even pricked to the Heart for us Now we are unworthy and also ashamed to come into your Congregations or into the Assembly of Friends those which we have so grievously Sinned against c. We intreat you if you can find so much Favour and Love in your Hearts towards us as to receive us into your Congregation if it be but into the Entry of your Houses where you meet together to wait upon God c. This out of one of their said Papers now hear also what follows taken out of the Second beginning thus viz. Be it known unto all People unto whom these Presents shall be read That I H. Winder and Ann my Wife do acknowledge and confess before the Living God and unto all People That we have Sinned and done that which we ought not to have done in suffering the Temptations of Sin in the Flesh to overcome us and lead us out of the strait and narrow Way which leads to Life c. So this know all People that it was not because the Quakers Judgment or Doctrine or way of Worship is False that it caused us to fall from them But our fall was of our selves and their Judgment their Doctrine their way of Worship and Faith is Acceptable with the Lord we do Faithfully Believe it and also Acknowledge it c. He hath called us to Repentance For he would not the Death of a Sinner but rather that he should Repent and Live c. I was afraid and hid my self five days but my Covering was too narrow but the Word of the Lord came to me again saying Hide not thy self nor be not Rebellious any longer For I the Lord fill Heaven and Earth with my Presence therefore confess thy Sins and Repent and forsake them c. Then I fell down at the Word of the Lord Trembling Fasting and Praying Weeping and Mourning before the Lord three days c. Let all People take Warning by me to call to Remembrance their former Sins and Transgressions which they have committed before the Lord God for he fills Heaven and Earth with his Presence and nothing can be hid from him c. Let the Wicked forsake his Ways and the Unrighteous his Thoughts and let us turn unto the Lord with penitent Hearts confessing the Evil of our Doings c. Thus far out of the said two Papers faithfully taken out which if any shall question I hereby profer such if they please to read them at large And let it be noted Reader that upon the 15th of the 1st Month commonly called March last past those two Papers out of which I have taken what is above-written was then intended to have been shewed to both H. W and his Wife but he not being met with the said Ann his Wife did then own them to be their own Papers and that she Writ them with her own Hands And did also then own the Preface Narrative and Postscript of that Book called The Spirit of Quakerism c. to be her Husband 's And being further queried why they should put forth such a Wicked Book she answered Ah! we were put upon it by several else we had never done it but would not tell who they were though then desired only confessed that Mr. Gillpin wrote down all things thereof as they were Transacted And the said Ann H. W's Wife querying then of our Friends whose Names are after Subscribed as Witnesses whether we intended to answer their said Book our Friends answering Yea it would be Answered to which she replyed And then will you lay us open to the World c. Witnesses hereof William Grenhope William Greenhow John Bowstead Richard Atkinson I shall now add what is so Notoriously known in the face of the Neighbourhood that though the said H. W. be greatly hardned yet I presume he cannot have a face to deny relating to their great uncleanness for which they were denyed of us c. First the said H. W. had her that is now his Wife so great with Child in his first Wife's dayes that there was but about six Weeks betwixt the Death of his first Wife and the Birth of that Child Now Reader be pleased to compare what is before taken out of their own Papers and what is added as a demonstration of their great Wickedness and Uncleanness that their Papers have relation to and for which they were denyed of our Friends with what I have in short before cited out of their own Book viz. that God should choose him viz. H. W. to be his Instrument to Fight this Battle c. And when I consider what Persons our Saviour chose for his great Apostles c. But being Conscious of our perfect Innocency we made our Appeal to the Searcher of all Hearts c. Again we know no Guilt c. Again a Burthen Intolerable had I not been Supported by a God of Truth and a clear Conscience c. And then Reader after such comparing the One with the Other and due Consideration thereof I shall leave it to thee if thou be such an one as hath the Fear of God before thee to judge whether this our Adversary H. W. is like an Instrument chosen of the Pure Holy God or in any respect like the Apostles of Holy Jesus fit to be dignified by appearing on God's behalf Can be Conscious of perfect Innocency or can as such make his appeal to the Searcher of all Hearts can know no guilt Can be supported by a God of Truth and a clear Conscience or no And whether it be not great Impiety and Blasphemous in him so to say considering his Circumstances as before And whether it doth not bespeak and declare his Conscience to be Seared as with an Hot Iron or no Ah surely the Righteous God will Rebuke him for his Abominable Uncleanness and Impiety Hypocrisie and make him and all his Abettors Examples in his Wrath If they Repent not Further let the Reader observe that the said H. W. in the first Page of his Narrative saith That it was in the Year 1673. and Harvest time when Margaret Bradley one of the three Women he calls his Accusers came with a Message to him and after the Relation of her then Message to him he also relates his Answer viz. ' The Lord Rebuke thee thou