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A78621 Faith in Gods promises, the saints best weapon: or, The great use and availableness of faith, both for the support and growth of saints in times most perilous. Plainly discovering that the want of faith in the way of Gods promises, is the great cause of the want of Gods presence. With several considerations for the encrease of faith, tha[t] henceforth the saints may by faith so draw nigh unto God, and in faith so wait upon God, as with certainty of receiving from him. Whereunto is added something concerning the great errour and mistake of many men concerning the true Christ, and how he is said to be in his people; with other things very necessary to be known in order to saints resisting the temptation of the present times. / Set forth as (useful for all people, but) especially intended for the good of such as are returned to the good old way of the Lord, by Matthew Caffyn ... Caffyn, Matthew, 1628-1714. 1660 (1660) Wing C207; ESTC R170345 46,339 55

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in their mindes c. Moreover as 't is said that Christ is in his Saints so likewise 't is said and that more frequently in the Scriptures That the Saints are in Christ and in God as thus Paul an Apostle of Jesus Christ unto the Saints and faithfull Brethren in Christ that are at Colosse ch 1. v. 2. Vnto the Church of the Thessalonians which is in God the Father and in the Lord Iesus Christ ch 1.1 Unto all the Saints in Christ Iesus which are at Philippi ch 1.1 Unto the Saints and faithfull in Christ which are at Ephesus ch 1.1 Now that the Saints are in Christ after the manner that these men plead for Christs being in the Saints judge ye that fear the Lord and serve him with uprightness of heart remembring that he is the true Christ who was dead but is alive for evermore a Mediator betwixt God and Men the man Christ Iesus Moreover hear what the Lord Christ saith as a most clear resolve to this case as thus John 17.21,23 Thou Father art in me and I in thee that they also may be one in us I in them and Thou in me that they may be made perfect in one compared with these his words John 15.10 If ye keep my Commandements ye shall abide in my love as I have kept my Fathers Commandements and abide in his love Most clearly shewing that Christs being in the Father is meant in the Fathers love as himself witnesseth and so the Fathers being in the Son is meant in the Sons love so likewise our being in the Eather and in the Son is meant in their love So even so Christs dwelling in the Saints is meant his dwelling in their love in their affections as hath been said Now whereas the Son was in the Fathers love there was given unto the Son from the Father the Holy Spitit without measure working in him whereby he did the works that no man ever did to the glory of the Father So in like manner the Saints being in Christ in his love and affections there is also given to the Saints through Christ the Holy Spirit in measure working in them whereby the deeds of the body are to be mortified Rom. 8.13 and the fruits of Righteousness brought forth to the Glory and Praise of God by Jesus Christ Obj. From these words of Christ John 14.16,17 I will pray the Father and he shall give you another Comforter even the Spirit of Truth whom the world cannot receive because it seeth him not neither knoweth him but ye know him for he dwelleth with you and shall be in you From these words I say 't is conceived and declared by the Quakers that Christ that was then with the Disciples should afterwards be in them c. Answ He that hath an ear to hear may easily understand that he who is said to be with the Disciples and should afterwards be in them was not the Christ but another Comforter whom the Christ would pray to the Father for even the Spirit of Truth whom the world could not receive because they saw him not nor knew him to be the Spirit of Truth from God though through him was done such works as no man ever did yea they were ready to say that he had a Devil in him but the Disciples knew him to be the Spirit of Truth and acknowleged the mighty works to be done through the Spirit of God in him therefore saith Christ Ye know him for he the Spirit of truth another Comforter dwelleth with you that is the Spirit being in Christ and so with the Disciples for he was not then given to them as he was afterwards Joh. 7.37 and shall be in you that is the Spirit of Truth another Comforter which when Christ was exalted having received of the Father the Promise of the Holy Spirit he made good to his Disciples by sending his Holy Spirit in them which before was with them being in Christ that was with them These men say Christ is come in them the second time and they look not for any other and withall have good words and fair speeches crying Grace grace Light light But let all assuredly know that they themselves are not in the True Light nor Grace of God that brings Salvation wherein the Saints of old walked for they thereby were taught to deny ungodliness and worldly lusts and to look for the glorious appearing of Jesus Christ Tit. 2.11,12,13 But saith Humphrey Smith Christ is come and we look not for any other another voice from another Spirit Moreover the Quaker utterly denyes as most men I suppose knows the Holy Scriptures to be a Rule whereunto Humphry Smith in his Book intitlued A true and everlasting Rule pa. 29. in the face of men and Devils affirmeth That there is no other Rule Wayes Means or Name by which man shall ever come to walk with God but by that which is manifest of God in him which say they is sufficient to guide in all the wayes of God without Scripture or any other outward means Answ The time was and that not long since in our Nation when it was no lesse then ridiculous and a matter of contempt for men and women to go to the publick Place of their Worship with the Bible under their Armes whereby to search whether those things they heard were so or no such and so great was the Romish cloud of darkness then spread over the faces of the multitude they being informed by their blind Guides that Ignorance was the Mother of Devotion But Satans device 〈◊〉 discovered in this and the Scriptures very generally searched into he hath now found out another way whereby to produce a low esteem to the Holy Scriptures even by his manifold endeavours to perswade people that there is a Light placed in them which is to be their Rule and is sufficient without the Scriptures or any other outward means to guide them in all the wayes of God which being believed unavoidably leads people to have a low and slender esteem of the Scriptures and by this means it is become again a very rare thing to see among these people called Quakers when they are assembled together the Book of the Holy Scriptures diligently searched whether those things spoken be agreeable thereunto yea or nay and thus the Ministers of these people are hereby put into a capacity greatly to deceive their Hearers while in their preaching up their manifold Errours they make use of with their own some Scripture Expressions also seemingly favouring their Opinions but not really as to instance Say they in their Doctrine Ordinances to wit Baptism in water and the Lords Supper are now ceased for Christ hath blotted out the hand-writing of Ordinances that was against us and nailed them to his Cross Col. 2.14 which being heard by the People they remember well that they have read such kind of words and for the tryal thereof they according as they have been taught begin to look within
as descended from that fleshly birth-priviledged Seed of Abraham Therefore saith he If any man be in Christ he is a New Creature the Seed of Abraham according to the Faith of Abraham either Jews or Gentiles In like manner as there was a time when Christ was esteemed and known upon the account or because of his being born of the Tribe of Judah and of the birth-priviledged Seed of Abraham yet now henceforth saith the Apostle know we him so no more that is as to esteem him upon that account or for that reason meritoriously the Saviour of the world but rather upon the account of his coming down from Heaven his being the Son of God reconciling the world unto himself in the body of his flesh through death Object The first man Adam was made a living Soul the last Adam was made a quickning Spirit Answ True it is that the Apostle thus speaketh but consider how he is or can be called the last Adam or the second Man as afterwards he is called if Christ be so a quickning Spirit considered as he was before the world was for if the Spirit as Spirit be the last or second Adam then it follows that the first man Adam who was of the earth earthy was first and before the Eternal quickning Spirit which were very absurd to think and therefore Christ of necessity must be understood to be the last Adam upon the account of his being become visible man a condition that he was not alwayes in but since the creation and fall of the first man Adam and so is truly and very properly the last or second man made a quickning Spirit yet not so a spirit in the Apostles sence but that he is also spiritual ver 46. and also the man by whom came the Resurrection from the dead ver 21. and also the Christ that died was buried and rose again ver 3 4. and therefore not so a quickning Spirit as in the Quakers sence for the Spirit considered as from Eternity was not man and so was never dead and so not buried and so not raised again all which Paul testifies in that very Chapter concerning him whom he calls a quickning Spirit in reference to his now being a spiritual glorified man which considered it remains that all the House of Israel know assuredly that God hath made that same Jesus whom the Jews Crucified both Lord and Christ Moreover as the Quaker holds That the Spirit which was in the visible man and not the man was the Christ So also he holds and indeed it leads him to hold that the second coming of Christ is in men and not otherwise and therefore Humphrey Smith in his Book entituled A true and everlasting Rule pag. 19 20. compares such who look after the body of Christ to those young men that sought in vain the body of Elijah and plainly saith that such whom he calls wandring stars shall never find the body they look so much after he also speaking of Christ pag. 30. saith That he is come whom we long waited for and we do not look for any other who now saith he appears the second time without sin to the saving that which was lost and so saith he we confess Christ come in the flesh and do not look for another pag. 32. Now as their perswasions concerning Christ being a Spirit and not man leads them to expect the coming of Christ in them so contrariwise our Faith and full perswasions that Christ is a visible glorified man leads us to expect his second coming as a distinct appearance from and not in his People whereupon I forbear to urge those many Scripture-grounds which with all plainness ane loudness of voice reproves these mens swelling words of vanity and shall onely speak something touching those Scriptures which speaks of Christs being in his People whereat some for want of understanding may possibly stumble True it is That the Apostle tells the Church of the Colossians that Crist was in them the hope of Glory Col. 1.27 Yet not so in them but that he could also say and that at the same time to the same Church that when Christ who is our Life shall appear then ye shall appear with him in Glory even in the possession of that Glory which then they had hopes of ver 3 4. The Apostle also declares Christ to be in the Corinthians except they were Reprobates Yet not so in them but that they were also waiting for the coming of Christ 1 Cor. 1.7 Yea at that time when they were sanctified in Christ ver 2. and in every thing enriched by him coming behind in no gift ver 5 7. Paul also testifies concerning himself That Christ lived in him yet not so but that he looked also for the appearing of Christ Tit. 2.13 Yea and at that time when he had finished his course and the time of his departure at hand he speaks to Timothy of a Crown of Righteousness which the Righteous Judge saith he shall give me at that day even at his appearing 2 Tim. 4.1,6,7,8 The Apostle John saith Christ is come that is the first time which John might well say for he had seen him with his eyes and handled him with his hands 1 John 1.1 But Christ afterwards ascended from whom John received great things yea much of the special presence of Gods Spirit mightily working with him yet did he not say that Christ was come the second time for himself after those many Visions and Revelations we read of was discovered to him readily prayed even so come Lord Iesus Rev. 22.20 Stephen a man full of the Spirit yet looking up into Heaven testified that he saw in Heaven Jesus Christ standing at the right hand of God and the truth of this he sealed with his blood Act. 7.55,56,58 Moreover as Paul bears witness of Christs dwelling in the Saints so also he declares that the Saints were in him even as it is meet saith he for me to think this of you all because I have you in my heart Phil. 1.7 And elsewhere saith that you are in our hearts to dye and live with you 2 Cor. 7.3 Now 't is out of question that the several persons of the Churches were not in the Apostles heart but onely they were deep in his affections and much in the Thoughts and Meditations of his heart even so as to dye and live with them he believing them to be the beloved of God So the Saints having Christ deep in their affections much and often in their Thoughts and Meditations believing him to be their most precious Redeemer Who is gone into Heaven to prepare a place for them John 14.2 So I say Christ dwelleth in his People or in the hearts of his People by Faith And this kind of Language is both proper and common to this day for persons that are deep in each others affections in their personal absence one from another to say that such are in their hearts or that such are often