Selected quad for the lemma: book_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
book_n	know_v	scripture_n	true_a	2,779	5	5.2179	4	true

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A54126	The counterfeit Christian detected; and the real Quaker justified Of God and Scripture, reason & antiquity. against the vile forgeries, gross perversions, black slanders, plain contradictions & scurrilous language of T. Hicks an Anabaptist preacher, in his third dialogue between a Christian and a Quaker, call'd, The Quaker condemned, &c. By way of an appeal to all sober people, especially those called Anabaptists in and about the City of London. By a lover of truth and peace W. P.	Penn, William, 1644-1718.	1674 (1674)	Wing P1271; ESTC R220484	73,223	125

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unrighteousness_n and_o render_v i_o severe_a these_o trick_n t._n h._n will_v never_o compass_v thy_o end_n but_o great_o contribute_v to_o frustrate_v it_o §._o iii_o concern_v the_o redemption_n of_o the_o seed_n counterfeit_n forasmuch_o as_o christ_n come_v to_o seek_v and_o to_o save_v that_o which_o be_v lose_v i_o do_v query_n who_o or_o what_o be_v that_o which_o be_v lose_v ibid._n p._n 34._o quaker_n i_o know_v thou_o do_v and_o that_o thou_o make_v g._n keith_n answer_n that_o which_o be_v lose_v be_v still_o in_o man_n that_o christ_n come_v to_o seek_v and_o save_v and_o all_o his_o minister_n preach_v people_n to_o this_o a_o lose_a god_n a_o lose_a christ_n etc._n etc._n upon_o which_o thou_o make_v this_o exclamation_n blush_v oh_o heaven_n and_o be_v astonish_v o_o earth_n &_o c._n do_v j●sus_n christ_n come_v to_o seek_v and_o save_v a_o lose_a god_n a_o lose_a christ_n be_v ever_o god_n and_o christ_n in_o a_o lose_a condition_n i_o tell_v thou_o then_o and_o do_v still_o that_o the_o heaven_n and_o the_o earth_n may_v blush_v at_o thy_o base_a deal_n with_o g._n k._n i_o also_o tell_v thou_o as_o thou_o have_v cite_v i_o that_o he_o intend_v no_o other_o than_o that_o christ_n come_v to_o seek_v and_o to_o save_v by_o turn_v people_n to_o inquire_v after_o a_o lose_a god_n and_o a_o lose_a christ_n what_o say_v thou_o to_o this_o c._n if_o by_o lose_v we_o must_v not_o understand_v man_n lose_a condition_n what_o less_o can_v be_v understand_v but_o that_o jesus_n come_v to_o seek_v and_o to_o save_v a_o lose_a god_n it_o be_v true_a g._n k_o speak_v of_o people_n find_v a_o lose_a god_n who_o they_o have_v lose_v ibid._n p._n 35._o q._n if_o this_o be_v true_a that_o g._n k._n so_o speak_v to_o wit_n that_o by_o lose_a god_n he_o understand_v people_n lose_a of_o god_n what_o be_v become_v of_o thy_o blush_n o_o heaven_n etc._n etc._n be_v god_n and_o christ_n in_o a_o lose_a condition_n it_o be_v well_o thou_o be_v draw_v to_o confess_v this_o against_o thyself_o c._n but_o still_o if_o lose_v be_v mean_v only_o of_o god_n and_o christ_n how_o can_v christ_n be_v say_v to_o seek_v and_o save_v a_o lose_a god_n ibid._n q._n no_o such_o word_n ever_o fell_a from_o g._n k._n to_o any_o such_o question_n as_o thou_o make_v they_o a_o answer_n to_o thou_o have_v unworthy_o pervert_v both_o his_o word_n and_o sense_n though_o lose_v be_v say_v of_o god_n yet_o the_o loss_n be_v man_n for_o every_o man_n who_o have_v lose_v god_n be_v true_o in_o a_o lose_a condition_n but_o to_o apply_v that_o lose_a condition_n to_o god_n and_o not_o man_n because_o man_n have_v lose_v god_n and_o be_v admonish_v to_o seek_v after_o a_o lose_a god_n be_v to_o commit_v great_a injury_n against_o we_o as_o thou_o have_v attempt_v with_o thy_o silly_a insinuation_n viz._n if_o lose_v he_o mean_v only_a of_o god_n and_o christ_n etc._n etc._n what_o poor_a beg_a shift_n be_v thou_o put_v to_o c._n but_o to_o put_v the_o reader_n out_o of_o doubt_n that_o what_o i_o infer_v be_v indeed_o your_o very_a opinion_n g._n f._n and_o j._n n._n tell_v we_o that_o the_o seed_n want_v redemption_n and_o the_o seed_n be_v christ_n either_o then_o there_o must_v be_v more_o christ_n then_o one_o or_o christ_n come_v to_o redeem_v himself_o ibid._n q._n be_v it_o to_o put_v we_o out_o of_o doubt_n to_o leave_v it_o in_o doubt_n whether_o g._n f._n and_o j._n n._n ever_o say_v any_o such_o thing_n or_o these_o word_n as_o lay_v down_o together_o for_o tho●_n referre_v to_o no_o book_n but_o suppose_v it_o be_v true_a will_v it_o bear_v thy_o inference_n therefore_o god_n and_o christ_n be_v in_o a_o lose_a condition_n be_v it_o all_o one_o to_o say_v that_o christ_n be_v brui●ed_v and_o oppress_v and_o crucify_v afresh_o by_o wicked_a man_n and_o put_v to_o open_a shame_n and_o to_o say_v that_o christ_n be_v in_o a_o lose_a condition_n if_o it_o be_v not_o as_o every_o ordinary_a capacity_n may_v easy_o see_v how_o needless_a as_o 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