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a_o real_a participation_n of_o the_o body_n &_o by_o consequence_n of_o the_o effect_n and_o benefit_n but_o the_o great_a and_o kill_a objection_n against_o all_o explication_n he_o dislike_v be_v their_o not_o advance_v we_o beyond_o zuinglianism_n whether_o the_o opinion_n which_o he_o brand_v by_o that_o name_n be_v true_o ascribe_v to_o zuinglius_fw-la and_o real_o so_o great_a a_o bugbear_n as_o this_o author_n seem_v to_o apprehend_v i_o need_v not_o now_o stay_v to_o inquire_v it_o be_v sufficient_a to_o my_o purpose_n that_o the_o church_n of_o england_n do_v advance_v beyond_o it_o yet_o the_o word_n of_o the_o judicious_a and_o venerable_a mr._n hooker_n be_v very_o well_o worth_a our_o observation_n it_o seem_v say_v he_o lib._n 5._o sect._n 67._o pag._n 308._o much_o amiss_o that_o against_o they_o who_o they_o term_v sacramentary_n so_o many_o invective_n discourse_n be_v make_v all_o run_v upon_o two_o point_n that_o the_o eucharist_n be_v not_o a_o bare_a sign_n and_o figure_n only_o and_o that_o the_o efficacy_n of_o his_o body_n and_o blood_n be_v not_o all_o we_o receive_v in_o this_o sacrament_n for_o no_o man_n have_v read_v their_o book_n and_o write_n which_o be_v thus_o traduce_v can_v be_v ignorant_a that_o both_o these_o assertion_n they_o plain_o confess_v to_o be_v most_o true_a they_o do_v not_o so_o interpret_v the_o word_n of_o christ_n as_o if_o the_o name_n of_o his_o body_n do_v import_v but_o the_o figure_n of_o his_o body_n and_o to_o be_v be_v only_o to_o signify_v his_o blood_n they_o grant_v that_o these_o holy_a mystery_n receive_v in_o a_o due_a manner_n do_v instrumental_o both_o make_v we_o partaker_n of_o the_o grace_n of_o that_o body_n and_o blood_n which_o be_v give_v for_o the_o life_n of_o the_o world_n and_o beside_o also_o impart_v unto_o we_o even_o in_o true_a and_o real_a though_o mystical_a manner_n the_o very_a person_n of_o our_o lord_n himself_o whole_a perfect_a and_o entire_a as_o have_v be_v show_v these_o word_n may_v receive_v far_a light_n from_o bishop_n cosins_n history_n of_o transubstantiation_n cap._n 2._o sect._n 13.17_o 18._o now_o they_o that_o acknowledge_v thus_o much_o hold_v a_o real_a participation_n and_o union_n which_o be_v all_o that_o be_v requisite_a to_o affirm_v a_o real_a presence_n and_o if_o they_o deny_v a_o real_a presence_n they_o only_o reject_v a_o term_n which_o may_v well_o enough_o be_v use_v but_o perhaps_o be_v better_o let_v alone_o the_o truth_n be_v what_o the_o pamphlet_n attribute_n to_o zuinglius_fw-la be_v as_o bucer_n report_v the_o tenant_n of_o the_o anabaptist_n and_o as_o mr_n thorndike_n say_v of_o some_o puritan_n in_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o late_a rebellion_n and_o by_o they_o it_o be_v most_o probable_a this_o notion_n be_v impart_v to_o a_o friend_n of_o we_o who_o at_o that_o time_n be_v observe_v to_o be_v their_o great_a associate_n and_o favourer_n 25._o disc_n i._o §._o 37_o p._n 25._o what_o the_o remonstrant_n and_o socinian_o say_v do_v no_o way_n concern_v we_o much_o good_a may_v they_o do_v the_o author_n they_o who_o set_v up_o for_o so_o great_a master_n of_o reason_n will_v but_o ill_o resent_v it_o that_o a_o man_n of_o his_o head_n shall_v pretend_v to_o they_o 38._o ibid._n §._o 38._o who_o w.h._n be_v and_o who_o his_o answerer_n i_o know_v not_o have_v never_o see_v either_o of_o their_o book_n and_o be_v so_o well_o acquaint_v with_o this_o author_n sincerity_n i_o can_v depend_v upon_o his_o credit_n i_o meet_v with_o nothing_o quote_v but_o what_o it_o be_v easy_a to_o give_v a_o account_n of_o but_o to_o do_v it_o as_o it_o shall_v be_v one_o ought_v to_o have_v the_o book_n by_o he_o for_o i_o vehement_o suspect_v this_o answerer_n have_v fare_v no_o better_a than_o his_o brethren_n chap._n v._o a_o reply_n to_o the_o four_o chapter_n of_o the_o first_o discourse_n to_o the_o three_o observable_a lay_v down_o in_o the_o first_o chapter_n which_o now_o come_v to_o be_v consider_v the_o author_n have_v three_o thing_n to_o say_v 1._o that_o if_o christ_n natural_a body_n be_v corporal_o present_a in_o the_o eucharist_n 39_o disc_n i_o p._n 27._o §._o 39_o it_o ought_v to_o be_v then_o adore_v which_o we_o grant_v he_o and_o have_v he_o design_v to_o dispute_v for_o the_o papist_n he_o ought_v to_o have_v insist_v that_o it_o be_v corporal_o present_a 2._o 40._o ibid_fw-la §._o 40._o that_o if_o we_o reject_v a_o corporal_a presence_n yet_o if_o any_o other_o presence_n be_v reveal_v which_o be_v as_o real_a and_o essential_a as_o if_o it_o be_v corporal_a adoration_n will_v be_v no_o less_o due_a to_o it_o thus_o then_o so_o present_a that_o be_v if_o he_o mean_v to_o oppose_v we_o and_o not_o bare_o fight_v with_o his_o own_o shadow_n that_o since_o the_o church_n of_o england_n hold_v the_o natural_a body_n of_o christ_n to_o be_v corporal_o and_o local_o absent_a yet_o as_o true_o and_o real_o present_a as_o if_o it_o be_v local_o present_a she_o be_v as_o much_o bind_v to_o adore_v the_o element_n for_o the_o sake_n of_o the_o real_a presence_n which_o she_o own_v as_o she_o will_v be_v if_o she_o likewise_o own_a that_o corporal_n and_o local_a presence_n which_o she_o deny_v i_o say_v to_o adore_v the_o element_n for_o otherwise_o there_o be_v no_o dispute_n whether_o christ_n body_n abstract_v from_o the_o hypostatical_a union_n be_v more_o than_o a_o creature_n which_o be_v not_o adorable_a with_o divine_a worship_n for_o all_o understand_a man_n be_v agree_v it_o be_v not_o or_o whether_o christ_n person_n i._n e._n his_o body_n hypostatical_o unite_v to_o his_o deity_n wheresoever_o or_o howsoever_o present_v be_v to_o be_v adore_v both_o in_o and_o out_o of_o the_o sacrament_n viz._n in_o the_o performance_n of_o all_o religious_a office_n still_o address_v our_o adoration_n to_o he_o in_o heaven_n where_o his_o body_n be_v local_o present_a for_o this_o be_v allow_v by_o all_o true_a christian_n whatsoever_o this_o his_o second_o position_n we_o be_v to_o debate_v when_o he_o speak_v to_o it_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n we_o deny_v it_o 3_o he_o undertake_v to_o show_v that_o the_o church_n of_o england_n i_o e._n five_o writer_n of_o her_o communion_n 45._o disc_n i._o pag._n 28._o §._o 41_o 42_o 43_o 44_o 45._o whereof_o one_o be_v mr_n thorndike_n as_o he_o deliver_v himself_o in_o his_o epilogue_n have_v heretofore_o believe_v and_o affirm_v such_o a_o presence_n to_o which_o they_o think_v adoration_n due_a to_o adore_v a_o presence_n be_v a_o odd_a kind_n of_o expression_n for_o it_o be_v to_o adore_v a_o extrinsic_n denomination_n to_o adore_v christ_n present_a in_o the_o mystery_n be_v a_o phrase_n we_o better_o understand_v though_o that_o too_o be_v liable_a to_o misconstruction_n if_o the_o author_n dare_v to_o speak_v plain_a the_o point_n that_o pinch_v and_o the_o true_a thing_n to_o be_v prove_v be_v that_o christ_n according_a to_o the_o quotation_n be_v so_o real_o present_a in_o the_o 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his_o religion_n 47._o disc_n i._o pag_n 29._o §._o 47._o have_v give_v we_o this_o taste_n of_o his_o other_o good_a quality_n he_o conclude_v with_o a_o spice_n of_o his_o logic_n and_o infer_v 1._o that_o notwithstanding_o what_o he_o have_v say_v the_o church_n in_o her_o declaration_n seem_v clear_o to_o deny_v adoration_n due_a to_o christ_n body_n as_o any_o way_n present_v in_o the_o eucharist_n contrary_a to_o the_o forecited_a doctrine_n and_o k._n james_n and_z bishop_n andrews_n religion_n i_o will_v not_o take_v advantage_n of_o his_o ambiguous_a expression_n but_o tell_v he_o that_o the_o king_n be_v the_o bishop_n and_o the_o church_n meaning_n be_v very_o plain_a viz._n that_o since_o christ_n natural_a body_n be_v not_o to_o be_v adore_v but_o where_o it_o be_v corporal_o &_o local_o present_a &_o it_o be_v not_o so_o
who_o he_o censure_v so_o free_o in_o the_o remain_a part_n of_o this_o paragraph_n 33._o ibid._n p._n 33._o we_o shall_v still_o think_v that_o mons_fw-la daillé_n have_v reason_n and_o make_v a_o true_a resolution_n of_o popery_n into_o passion_n and_o interest_n that_o bishop_n taylor_n have_v prove_v as_o well_o as_o say_v that_o the_o papist_n pretence_n to_o the_o father_n be_v but_o few_o and_o trifle_v that_o what_o the_o defender_n quote_v out_o of_o liberty_n of_o prophesy_v be_v a_o very_a good_a argument_n against_o the_o literal_a sense_n and_o that_o the_o bishop_n while_o he_o plead_v for_o the_o papist_n do_v prudent_o to_o omit_v catholic_a tradition_n which_o he_o know_v be_v not_o on_o their_o side_n we_o shall_v still_o profess_v with_o dr._n stillingfleet_n that_o the_o gross_a idolatry_n in_o the_o world_n have_v as_o fair_a a_o plea_n as_o the_o popish_a and_o conclude_v that_o this_o trifler_n find_v fault_n with_o he_o have_v not_o ex_fw-la but_o inexcuseable_o mistake_v the_o doctor_n be_v argument_n as_o will_v appear_v by_o compare_v his_o word_n with_o what_o the_o dr._n say_v rom_n idolatry_n cap._n 2._o §_o 7._o pag._n 132.133_o last_o we_o agree_v that_o if_o transubstantiation_n be_v warrant_v by_o catholic_a tradition_n adoration_n be_v sufficient_o ground_v and_o can_v but_o smile_v as_o crassus_n do_v upon_o a_o like_a occasion_n to_o see_v how_o gingerly_o the_o defender_n nibble_v at_o this_o concession_n he_o seem_v to_o say_v that_o tradition_n be_v for_o transubstantiation_n ibid._n ibid._n yet_o he_o wave_v that_o and_o plead_v only_o for_o a_o corporal_a presence_n which_o for_o any_o thing_n he_o say_v here_o may_v be_v take_v in_o a_o lutheran_n sense_n though_o to_o talk_v with_o he_o in_o his_o own_o language_n if_o trans_fw-la be_v true_a consubstantiation_n must_v needs_o be_v false_a and_o what_o be_v all_o this_o to_o his_o purpose_n who_o pretend_v to_o abstract_n from_o both_o and_o ground_n his_o adoration_n precise_o upon_o a_o real_a presence_n and_o now_o it_o be_v my_o turn_n to_o address_v to_o the_o indifferent_a reader_n and_o if_o he_o have_v either_o read_v mr._n thorndike'_v epilogue_n or_o but_o careful_o consider_v this_o author_n quotation_n out_o of_o it_o to_o ask_v his_o opinion_n about_o these_o two_o or_o three_o question_n 1._o whether_o this_o author_n have_v in_o all_o this_o whole_a pamphlet_n express_o own_a himself_o a_o roman-catholic_a or_o rather_o skulk_v under_o the_o general_a name_n of_o catholic_a take_v in_o the_o same_o latitude_n mr._n thorndike_n take_v it_o in_o his_o epilogue_n 2_o whether_o all_o his_o shuffle_n be_v not_o only_o to_o advance_v mr_n thorndike'_v new_a and_o singular_a notion_n of_o a_o presence_n of_o christ_n body_n in_o or_o with_o or_o under_o the_o element_n §_o 28._o p._n 32._o distinct_a from_o the_o church_n of_o england_n real_a and_o the_o papist_n and_o lutheran_n corporal_a presence_n in_o short_a not_o a_o virtual_a nor_o spiritual_a but_o a_o corporal_a presence_n effect_v neither_o by_o con_v nor_o transubstantiation_n but_o after_o some_o other_o unknown_a manner_n distinct_a from_o both_o §_o 17._o p._n 21._o 3_o whether_o a_o new_a and_o upstart_a doctrine_n which_o be_v probable_o never_o think_v of_o before_o mr_n thorndike'_v time_n aught_o to_o pass_v for_o a_o doctrine_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n 4_o whether_o the_o man_n that_o play_v these_o trick_n be_v a_o honest_a papist_n and_o whether_o the_o humble_a christian_n that_o swallow_v they_o must_v not_o have_v a_o very_a humble_a understanding_n chap._n xi_o a_o reply_n to_o the_o five_o last_o section_n of_o the_o second_o discourse_n 33._o disc_n 2._o pag._n 33._o our_o author_n §_o 30._o impute_v it_o to_o the_o strength_n of_o his_o ground_n not_o to_o excess_n of_o charity_n or_o the_o singular_a fancy_n of_o some_o few_o learned_a man_n that_o of_o late_a the_o protestant_n do_v either_o not_o at_o all_o or_o but_o very_o faint_o charge_v the_o papist_n with_o idolatry_n this_o confident_a assertion_n he_o very_o well_o know_v be_v false_a as_o the_o reader_n will_v find_v it_o by_o &_o by_o &_o if_o it_o be_v true_a it_o will_v not_o serve_v he_o to_o shelter_v his_o peculiar_a notion_n under_o the_o patronage_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n wherefore_o i_o must_v return_v he_o a_o quotation_n out_o of_o paragraph_n of_o dr._n stillingfleet_n preface_n to_o roman_a idolatry_n last_o paragraph_n the_o same_o preface_n which_o himself_o quote_v viz._n that_o our_o church_n be_v not_o now_o to_o be_v form_v according_a to_o the_o singular_a fancy_n of_o some_o few_o though_o learned_a man_n much_o less_o to_o be_v model_v by_o the_o copricio_n of_o superstitious_a fanatic_o who_o prefer_v some_o odd_a opinion_n and_o way_n of_o their_o own_o before_o the_o receive_a doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n they_o live_v in_o such_o as_o these_o we_o rather_o pity_v their_o weakness_n then_o regard_v their_o censure_n and_o be_v sorry_a when_o our_o adversary_n make_v such_o property_n of_o they_o as_o by_o their_o mean_n to_o beget_v in_o some_o a_o disaffection_n to_o our_o church_n but_o to_o come_v to_o those_o protestant_n 34._o disc_n 2._o §._o 30._o p._n 33_o 34._o who_o our_o author_n tell_v we_o neither_o out_o of_o singularity_n nor_o charity_n but_o pure_a conviction_n be_v of_o late_a so_o kind_a to_o popery_n the_o first_o he_o quote_v be_v mr._n thorndike_n in_o his_o epilogue_n wherein_o he_o be_v not_o only_o a_o conciliator_n and_o so_o oblige_v by_o his_o very_a design_n to_o strain_v his_o charity_n but_o his_o term_n of_o reconciliation_n be_v by_o his_o own_o confession_n peculiar_a notion_n of_o his_o own_o which_o he_o seem_v to_o have_v propose_v as_o not_o think_v that_o other_o reconciler_n have_v sufficient_o clear_v the_o papist_n from_o idolatry_n for_o it_o must_v be_v confess_v that_o this_o pious_a and_o learned_a man_n be_v zealous_a to_o his_o last_o hour_n to_o acquit_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n from_o idolatry_n partly_o out_o of_o the_o natural_a sweetness_n of_o his_o temper_n which_o make_v he_o unwilling_a to_o lay_v so_o grievous_a a_o sin_n to_o the_o charge_n of_o any_o church_n but_o chief_o upon_o a_o mistake_a principle_n that_o all_o idolatry_n unchurche_n so_o that_o the_o charge_n of_o it_o will_v in_o his_o opinion_n light_v heavy_a upon_o the_o papist_n and_o at_o the_o rebound_n equal_o hurt_v the_o church_n of_o england_n which_o derive_v her_o succession_n and_o ordination_n from_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n this_o mistake_a opinion_n the_o defender_n greedy_o lay_v hold_v on_o and_o ask_v with_o great_a briskness_n what_o church_n or_o sect_n of_o religion_n can_v be_v apostate_n at_o all_o 34._o ibid._n p._n 34._o if_o not_o a_o church_n commit_v and_o command_a idolatry_n i_o must_v desire_v he_o to_o reconcile_v this_o pert_a question_n with_o another_o as_o pert_a in_o the_o book_n of_o the_o benefit_n of_o our_o saviour_n chap._n 9_o §_o 14._o and_o now_o say_v he_o what_o can_v hinder_v god_n goodness_n or_o decay_v the_o church_n since_o it_o be_v plain_a that_o sin_n can_v even_o the_o sin_n of_o idolatry_n as_o be_v prove_v at_o large_a in_o the_o two_o forego_v section_n for_o when_o he_o do_v this_o he_o will_v return_v the_o common_a answer_n to_o that_o objection_n wherein_o he_o now_o side_n with_o mr_n thorndike_n ibid._n ibid._n the_o next_o be_v bishop_n forbes_n in_o his_o considerationes_fw-la modestae_fw-la &_o pacificae_fw-la who_o design_n and_o character_n be_v so_o well_o know_v and_o so_o obvious_a to_o any_o man_n that_o have_v but_o ever_o look_v upon_o his_o book_n that_o i_o think_v the_o reader_n will_v need_v no_o far_o information_n how_o excessive_a his_o charity_n be_v in_o this_o matter_n 35._o ibid._n p._n 35._o three_o archbishop_n bramhall_n conclude_v that_o very_a section_n which_o our_o author_n quote_v with_o these_o word_n though_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n do_v give_v divine_a worship_n to_o a_o creature_n or_o at_o least_o a_o party_n among_o they_o yet_o i_o be_o so_o charitable_a as_o to_o hope_v they_o intend_v it_o to_o the_o creator_n it_o may_v be_v the_o defender_n will_v reply_v now_o that_o he_o do_v not_o say_v excessive_o charitable_a ibid._n ibid._n four_o it_o be_v notorious_a that_o bishop_n taylor_n write_v his_o liberty_n of_o prophesy_v to_o serve_v the_o interest_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n which_o at_o that_o time_n be_v to_o obtain_v a_o general_a toleration_n wherefore_o it_o concern_v he_o in_o that_o book_n to_o be_v more_o than_o a_o conciliator_n and_o represent_v popery_n with_o the_o utmost_a favour_n it_o will_v bear_v yet_o he_o can_v not_o even_o in_o that_o book_n so_o dissemble_v his_o zeal_n against_o popery_n but_o that_o in_o the_o very_a paragraph_n our_o author_n quote_v he_o accuse_v the_o papist_n confidence_n and_o