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The churche[s] publick order argued and opened by a second confere[nce] betweene Silvanus and Himeneu[s] ... wherein the ordinances of the Church of Engla[nd for] Gods publick worship are proved to beagreeable to Gods sacred word / by L.G. [i.e. I.G.], a continuall friend and lover ofthe tr[uth].
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that first execution of Iustice aggravates and argues the fault of the people abundantly in making the Temple a Market-place Saint John saith John 2.15 our Lord made a scourge of small cords and drove them all out of the Temple and the Sheep and the Oxen and poured out the Changers money and overthrew their Tables and said unto them that sold Doves take these things hence make not my Fathers house a house of Merchandize Marke how exact and particular he is in every thing and how reverently he speakes of the materiall Temple and calls it his Fathers house and by Saint Matthew The Temple of the Lord And it is further to be noted that all the foure Evangelists testifie to this act of our Saviour which wrought so upon their affections that it is said And his Disciples remembred that it was written The zeale of thy house hath eaten me up John 2.17 Hym. I thanke you for this satisfaction for these passages of our Lord are very considerable in all the circumstances I pray let me heare your judgement also of the last question the worship it selfe both for matter and manner Sil. For the matter of Gods worship it is clearly set down in both the parts of it by our Lord himselfe to the Samaritan woman John 4.23 The houre commeth and now is when the true Worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth God is worshipped in âirit and in truth when Gods Word is read and the truâânse and meaning opened and made knowne So Ezra the Scribe and the other Priests did truely worship God Ezra 8.8 The Text saith thus So they read in the book in the Law of God distinctly and gave the sense and caused them to understand the reading And Saint James preaching to the Church at Jerusalem saith For Moses of old time hath in every City them that preach him being read in the Synagogues every Sabbath day Acts 15.21 To this purpose speaks our Saviour of the Pharisees Matth. 15.9 But in vaine doe they worship me teaching for Doctrine the Commandments of men undenyably proving they had worshipped God truely if they had taught for Doctrines the Commandments of God Hymen It is cleare and proved plainly that Reading and preaching Gods Word are materiall parts of Gods worship but what are the rest Silv. Prayer and prayses are other parts of Gods publike worship to be performed in the Temple and especially Prayer and therefore all the rest are included in that denomination of prayer As the Lord saith It is written my house shall be called a house of prayer Matth. 21.13 Notwithstanding it was also the house of preaching and reading and praysing offering Incense and Sacrifice and of blessing God and the people And to prove prayses a part of Gods worship David is excellent Psal 149. Sing unto the Lord Sing unto the Lord a new song and his prayse in the Congregation of Saints And Psalme 150. Prasse yee the Lord And that 's not enough but he appoynts the place too Praise God in his Sanctuary yea his expressions are so full of excellent variety Psalme 100. Enter into his Gates with thankes-giving and into his Courts with prayse bee thankfull unto him and blesse his name And in another place My praise shall bee of thee in the great Congregation I will pay my vowes before them them that feare him Psalme 22.25 Yea this worship is so acceptable both in publike and in private that the Holy Ghost beareth witnesse that whosoever offereth praise glorifieth God Psal 50.22 Hym. The Scriptures thus consorting methinks makes a sweet harmony and excellent are these considerations from them but I pray proceed to shew the other parts of Gods publike worship Sil. Friend at this time I will speak onely of the Ordinance of the Lords Supper because the time will not permit me else to make you answer concerning the manner of these perticulars in their administrations Now the communion of the body of the Lord as the Apostle calls it is one of the parts of that dayes publick worship Acts 20.7 where he proves all that I have said in every particular to the office of administration to that hee himselfe was ordained as hee proves to Timothy 1 Tim. 2.7 whereunto saith he I am ordained a Preacher and an Apostle And because of the greatnesse and verity of the office he therefore speaks with the greater testimony saying I speake the truth in Christ and lye not a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and verity And in the faithfull administration of the Gospell comming to Troas Verse 6. met together with the Disciples upon the first day of the week there is the time And the place is said to bee an upper chamber where they came together verse 8. And the matter of their worshâând service is expressed to bee preaching and breaking of brââ and conference And that which is included is prayer ãâã giving of thanks for so the same Apostle doth prove to the Church of Corinth that our Lord did first institute the Sââââent with prayer 1 Cor. 11.23 saying the Lord Iesus the âhe night hee was betrayed took bread and when he had gââân thanks he brake it and sayd Take eate c. Yea praying and blessing at the Communion was this Apostles practice in this Church of Corinth as in all other Churches for so he testifieth himself in imitation to the first institution 1 Cor. 10.16 The cup of blessing which we blesse is it not the Communion of the bloud of Christ the bread which we break is it not the Communion of the body of Christ Hym. These are all cleared and manifested by plain Scripture I pray is not the manner of the administration of these particular Ordinances prescribed in the Scripture also Sil. As I have shewed before that I find no forme in the Scriptures for Ordination neither can I find any Rule prescribed for the time when to receive the Lords Supper nor the place where nor the manner how nor the particular kind of Wine nor bread of what graine nor who shall provide them ready nor the gesture of giving nor receiving and yet without these we cannot Communicate in them Hym. Some say there is a word for all these things anâ urge it upon this Scripture Hebrewes 1.2 3. Whereforâ holy brethren partakers of the heavenly calling consideâ the Apostle and high Priest of our profession Christ Iâsus who was faithfull to him that appoynted him as alâ Moses was faithfull in all his house Silv If there were a word in the Scripture they shoulâ doe a good office to Gods people to shew them wheâ they may finde them written I am sure there is no such thirâ in those words you have read I know the bold audacioâ Brownists and the ignorant seduced Annabaptists aâ both as one enemy grossely falsifie and abuse wrong aâ spoyle this holy testimony by affirming that Christ is mâ perfect and exact in prescribing an outward forme for ãâã particulars in
Corinth 11.23 But wee find it not in the Scripture what it should bee Yea as I sayd before we finde no direction for the Sacrament it selfe nor for any circumstance that concernes the Celebration of it neither for time place nor manner And shall wee say therefore that Moses is more faithfull than Christ No sure for that I have proved to bee another thing before But it proves this rather that under the cleare light of the Gospell the truth and substance of things fore-spoken by the Patriarchs and Prophets are so evident and apparent that there needes no such particular directions and shadowes as the dimme and darke Ceremoniall Law required And that it is left unto the discretion of such as are in Authority rule and government to appoynt and regulate as may be most for the glory of God and best for the convenience of the place and people Hym What Rule then hath the Church of England for these Ordinances and all the rest wee have spoken of Silv. The Statute Law doth order particularly every thing as I have shewed you before of the Ministers Officers the time and the worship it selfe and of the name of the place so now I shall shew you that the Statutes appoynt the publike place it selfe and for the order and manner of the rest of the particulars and how all is agreeable with the word of God in the Statutes made in the second and third yeare of King Edward the sixth and the first Chapter the affection of this religious King is there recorded to be such that hee had an eye and respect to the most sincere and pure Christian Religion taught by the Scriptures as also to the usages of the Primitive Churâââ advising with his most learned and godly Ministââ obââving the prudent judgement of his beloved Vnclââ the âârd Protector the best assistance of his Privie and great Councell of Parliament with the ayd of the Holy Ghost and with one uniforme agreement is of them concluded set forth and delivered to his great comfort and satisfaction of minde a composer containing rules and orders for the regulating of the manner of Gods publick worship in a Booke intituled the Booke of the Common Prayer and administration of the Sacraments and other Rites and Ceremonies of the Church as in this so in other Acts the times and places are appoynted the Persons to officiate and administer in Praying praysing and reading and preaching Gods word the people to assemble on Sundayes and Holy-dayes upon penalty to bee inflicted by Officers Temporall or Ecclesiasticall and that none shall deprave that is speak ill of or condemne this Order 1 Elizabeth 2. Elizabeth 2.23 Iacob 4. And that the Congregation shall behave themselves quietly and with civill demeanor and orderly all the time of Gods publike worship Anno primo Marioe the third Chapter and also the rules and order for the particulars for Baptisme and the Lords Supper are contained in the Statutes that Children of beleeving Parents shall be baptized and that there shall be witnesses to testifie so much and also to promise a Christian endeavour for religious instruction and education the form of words that contained in the Commission given to the Apostles before mentioned the manner appoynted Dipping in or sprinkling with water And so also for the Supper of the Lord the Elements Bread and Wine to be provided by the Church-wardens at the charges of the Parishoners the time to be appoynted by the Minister and the people to have notice of it by his directions Anâ as the former so this to bee blessed and administred by the Pastor or Minister in the words of our Lords first Institution and the people to receive in a praying gesture both Ordinances being communicated with prayer and thanksgiuing for the Vestments of the Ministers and gesture oâ both Minister and People are ordered also Hymen But how can you prove to mee that those Acâ and Ordinances are agreeable and warrantable by the Word ãâã God Silv. Such Ordinances of men that are not against thâ Word of God I am warranted by the Word of God ãâã obey but the Traditions and Ordinances of the Churâ are no wayes opposite or contrary to GODS Worâ therefore GODS Word injoynes Christians obedieâ thereunto The generall Rules in Scripture of Traditions for ãâã der and Decency in the Churches were onely for ãâã things as concerne the publick worship of God which rules are not found exprest and determined in the Scripture therefore the Apostle 2 Thes â â speakes to the Church of Thessalonica in words of Dignity and Authority saying Now wee command you brethren in the Name of our Lord Iesus Christ that you withdraw your selves from every brother that walketh disorderly and not after the Traditions which hee received of us Observe the holy Apostles extraordinary expressions and likewise how hee ingages the Lord Iesus Christ in the cause that Order should be observed according to Traditions given which Traditions were not written Scriptures but things of like nature as the Apostle to the Corinthians speakes of 1 Cor. 14. And although of much variety in the Church yet hee thus would have all âhings regulated Let all things be done decently and in Order And the âder and decency is exprest throughout the Chapter Aââeaching verse 3.4 which is declared by speaking by Revelation by Knowledge or by Doctrine And that preaching and praying singing and giving thanks are to be in a knowne tongue to the edifying of the Church verse 12.15 17. That also the Prophets doe beake one by one that all may learne and all may be comâorted verse 31. And just so it was with the Church at Ieâusalem Acts 15.7 The Church being met together it is âyd Peter rose up and spake unto them as in the 8 9 10 â1 Verses And in the twelfth Verse it is sayd the multiâde kept silence and gave audience to Barnabas and Paul ând after they had held their peace Iames answered saying Men and Brethren hearken unto me v. 13. so that 4. Apostles âone meeting prophecyes but in order one after another âd to this the Apostle speakes fully to the Church of Coâh for God is not the Author of confusion or tumults or unquietnesse but of peace as in all Churches of the Saints 1 Cor. 13.33 So also in the next Chapter he gives generall rules to all Churches Let your women keep silence in the Churches for it is not permitted to them to speake And in another place directions are given for womens habits that their heads be covered 1 Cor. 11.6 So in the Chapter following he gives many rules about preparation before the sacrament as concerning our carriage in communicating where you come together saith he to eate tarry one for another So hee requires knowledge to discerne the Lords body So Temperance and modesty of behaviour that the Communion may be answerable to the thing Communicated in and thus concludes And the rest will I set in order when I