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A27035 A second true defence of the meer nonconformists against the untrue accusations, reasonings, and history of Dr. Edward Stillingfleet ... clearly proving that it is (not sin but) duty 1. not wilfully to commit the many sins of conformity, 2. not sacrilegiously to forsake the preaching of the Gospel, 3. not to cease publick worshipping of God, 4. to use needful pastoral helps for salvation ... / written by Richard Baxter ... ; with some notes on Mr. Joseph Glanviles Zealous and impartial Protestant, and Dr. L. Moulins character. Baxter, Richard, 1615-1691. 1681 (1681) Wing B1405; ESTC R5124 188,187 234

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a_o manner_n disobey_v as_o tend_v more_o to_o the_o common_a hurt_n than_o his_o mistake_n do_v nor_o disable_v to_o govern_v by_o their_o dishonour_v he_o much_o less_o by_o rebellion_n or_o confusion_n 6._o nor_o be_v man_n bind_v to_o cast_v away_o their_o great_a advantage_n for_o god_n service_n which_o they_o then_o have_v on_o pretence_n of_o do_v better_a when_o by_o accident_n it_o will_v do_v more_o hurt_n than_o good_a nor_o as_o bradshaw_n say_v to_o run_v on_o the_o sword_n or_o oppose_v sword_n to_o sword_n or_o raise_v sedition_n and_o ruin_v themselves_o in_o vain_a their_o advantage_n be_v many_o 1._o lawful_a communion_n in_o the_o parish_n church_n 2._o most_o of_o they_o either_o constant_o or_o by_o sit_v have_v public_a church_n or_o chapel_n to_o preach_v in_o and_o be_v still_o in_o hope_n 3._o the_o magistrate_n protect_v they_o and_o the_o reformation_n 4._o they_o hope_v for_o a_o progress_n of_o it_o whereas_o have_v they_o open_o do_v as_o the_o brownist_n 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preach_n of_o the_o gospel_n and_o probable_o to_o damn_v soul_n 2._o because_o else_o the_o nonconformist_n shall_v be_v more_o against_o preach_v when_o forbid_v than_o the_o conformist_n who_o say_v as_o bishop_n bilson_n we_o must_v go_v on_o with_o our_o work_n &_o suffer_v and_o as_o bishop_n andrews_n torture_n torti_n cohibeat_fw-la regem_fw-la diaconus_fw-la etc._n etc._n 3._o yea_o the_o papist_n who_o on_o pretence_n of_o obedience_n be_v tyrannical_a yet_o most_o agree_n as_o i_o have_v elsewhere_o prove_v that_o humane_a law_n bind_v not_o beyond_o the_o case_n of_o scandal_n when_o they_o be_v against_o the_o common_a good_a and_o a_o toletane_a council_n decree_v that_o their_o constitution_n shall_v not_o be_v take_v to_o bind_v ad_fw-la p●c●atum_fw-la to_o hazard_v soul_n but_o only_a ad_fw-la poenam_fw-la 4._o as_o i_o have_v say_v their_o own_o practice_n full_o expound_v their_o word_n who_o constant_o break_v the_o law_n and_o canon_n in_o preach_v in_o house_n and_o in_o chapel_n without_o or_o contrary_a to_o the_o liturgy_n or_o a_o part_n of_o it_o so_o do_v mr._n ball_n at_o whitemore_n mr._n hind_n at_o banbury_n mr._n geree_n and_o mr._n fox_n at_o tewksbury_n john_n rogers_n at_o dedham_n mr._n taylor_n mr._n harvy_n mr._n bourne_n at_o manchester_n mr._n gee_o mr._n johnson_n mr._n hancock_n mr._n barlow_n mr._n broxholme_n mr._n cooper_n and_o abundance_n more_o beside_o those_o mention_v before_o and_o now_o i_o leave_v it_o to_o the_o dr.'s_n further_a thought_n whether_o he_o speak_v true_o of_o the_o sense_n of_o all_o the_o nonconformist_n and_o have_v prove_v what_o he_o undertake_v to_o abuse_v the_o magistrate_n or_o do_v his_o part_n for_o public_a reformation_n they_o be_v against_o and_o so_o be_v we_o sect._n 26._o as_o to_o his_o question_n be_v there_o less_o necessity_n then_o or_o now_o i_o answer_v 1._o there_o be_v then_o more_o necessity_n as_o there_o be_v of_o you_o or_o i_o in_o america_n where_o we_o can_v preach_v the_o people_n late_o papist_n desire_v not_o their_o help_n nor_o scruple_v hear_v other_o as_o many_o thousand_o do_v now_o 2._o there_o be_v necessity_n then_o and_o so_o there_o be_v now_o but_o opportunity_n must_v join_v with_o necessity_n to_o oblige_v which_o they_o have_v more_o than_o we_o by_o connivance_n in_o chapel_n where_o be_v necessity_n and_o they_o have_v less_o than_o we_o in_o other_o place_n sect._n 27._o as_o to_o the_o answer_n of_o mr._n sprint_v on_o my_o knowledge_n the_o usual_a answer_n be_v that_o evil_n must_v not_o be_v do_v that_o we_o may_v have_v leave_n to_o do_v good_a and_o that_o if_o other_o hinder_v i_o because_o i_o will_v not_o sin_n it_o be_v not_o my_o omission_n of_o any_o duty_n yet_o the_o disparity_n of_o the_o apostle_n case_n and_o we_o may_v be_v mention_v to_o show_v the_o difference_n of_o obligation_n positive_a precept_n bind_v not_o ad_fw-la semper_fw-la but_o negative_n do_v and_o it_o be_v too_o gross_a a_o shift_n 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say_v against_o it_o 4._o few_o of_o the_o most_o ignorant_a that_o need_v they_o will_v then_o have_v leave_v the_o parish_n church_n to_o hear_v nonconformist_n in_o private_a but_o now_o many_o will_v come_v to_o we_o that_o can_v get_v in_o to_o the_o parish_n church_n other_o different_a effect_n may_v be_v name_v sect._n 10._o 4._o and_o though_o i_o accuse_v you_o not_o you_o that_o unjust_o say_v before_o that_o i_o make_v you_o seem_v a_o company_n of_o perjure_a villain_n seem_v to_o think_v yourself_o that_o the_o fore_o allege_a cause_n make_v many_o of_o the_o people_n think_v little_o better_o of_o some_o and_o a_o church_n think_v to_o consist_v of_o such_o pastor_n and_o vestry_n etc._n etc._n essential_a part_n differ_v from_o those_o that_o do_v not_o 2._o and_o the_o multitude_n of_o atheist_n and_o filthy_a liver_n and_o the_o thousand_o of_o noncommunicant_n who_o be_v still_o take_v for_o real_a member_n of_o your_o church_n have_v now_o stand_v out_o against_o 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in_o jail_n that_o will_v choose_v other_o or_o whether_o there_o be_v not_o a_o right_a way_n and_o again_o i_o say_v king_n and_o patron_n choose_v not_o man_n wife_n or_o physician_n or_o food_n and_o every_o man_n have_v a_o charge_n of_o his_o soul_n as_o well_o as_o of_o his_o life_n antecedent_n to_o the_o king_n or_o patron_n charge_n sect._n 6._o but_o why_o say_v he_o p._n 11._o v._n 115._o must_v the_o king_n bear_v all_o the_o blame_n if_o man_n soul_n be_v not_o provide_v for_o &_o c_o answ_n he_o that_o be_v the_o chooser_n must_v bear_v the_o blame_n the_o king_n for_o bishop_n and_o the_o patron_n for_o parish_n priest_n if_o they_o mischoose_v and_o do_v you_o think_v in_o your_o conscience_n that_o all_o the_o patron_n in_o england_n of_o so_o various_a mind_n and_o life_n be_v like_a to_o choose_v only_o such_o in_o who_o pastoral_a conduct_n all_o that_o care_n for_o their_o soul_n shall_v rest_v yea_o though_o the_o bishop_n must_v institute_n they_o as_o they_o 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they_o only_o look_v on_o those_o as_o true_a church_n which_o have_v such_o pastor_n who_o they_o approve_v answ_n equivocal_a word_n 1._o if_o they_o approve_v not_o those_o who_o they_o shall_v approve_v it_o be_v their_o sin_n 2._o approve_v be_v either_o of_o the_o necessary_n ad_fw-la esse_fw-la or_o only_o ad_fw-la melius_fw-la esse_fw-la they_o must_v not_o put_v the_o late_a for_o the_o former_a 3._o approve_v be_v by_o a_o govern_n or_o but_o a_o discern_a private_a judgement_n the_o first_o they_o have_v not_o but_o the_o late_a in_o good_a earnest_n will_v he_o have_v all_o the_o people_n take_v those_o for_o true_a pastor_n who_o they_o very_o think_v be_v none_o can_v they_o at_o once_o hold_v contradiction_n and_o if_o they_o must_v not_o judge_v as_o dissenter_n what_o mean_v mr._n dodwel_n and_o such_o man_n argument_n to_o prove_v all_o no_o minister_n that_o have_v not_o succession_n of_o episcopal_a ordination_n must_v not_o the_o people_n on_o that_o account_n 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his_o will_n or_o that_o content_v not_o but_o renounce_v it_o or_o can_v that_o be_v a_o true_a pastoral_n church_n that_o have_v no_o pastor_n very_o we_o be_v but_o upon_o low_a work_n if_o these_o be_v the_o thing_n which_o we_o must_v prove_v sect._n 9_o he_o add_v and_o one_o or_o other_o of_o these_o he_o think_v must_v if_o not_o all_o the_o parochial_a church_n in_o england_n fall_v under_o answ_n i_o read_v these_o word_n of_o the_o dr._n to_o a_o papist_n to_o speak_v mild_o this_o be_v a_o gross_a untruth_n therefore_o i_o hope_v it_o be_v no_o rage_n for_o i_o to_o have_v say_v the_o like_a how_o do_v he_o prove_v it_o nay_o in_o the_o place_n cite_v by_o he_o i_o not_o only_o profess_v the_o contrary_a but_o give_v the_o reason_n p._n 65._o because_o i_o judge_v of_o their_o office_n by_o god_n word_n and_o not_o by_o the_o rule_n which_o deprive_v they_o of_o a_o essential_a part._n and_o 1._o he_o cit_v my_o confession_n that_o those_o that_o i_o hear_v preach_v well_o and_o therefore_o be_v not_o uncapable_a man_n 2._o that_o their_o ordination_n have_v all_o essential_o necessary_a and_o all_o the_o worthy_a man_n that_o i_o know_v have_v the_o communicant_n of_o the_o parish_n consent_n though_o not_o election_n and_o therefore_o be_v call_v 3._o and_o many_o of_o they_o as_o he_o think_v they_o have_v all_o essential_a to_o the_o office_n and_o disown_n it_o not_o though_o i_o think_v other_o deny_v it_o they_o where_o there_o be_v the_o truth_n of_o what_o he_o say_v sect._n 10._o p._n 120._o because_o my_o practice_n disprove_v he_o he_o find_v out_o a_o subtlety_n that_o i_o join_v not_o with_o the_o parish_n church_n as_o true_a church_n but_o only_o as_o chapel_n or_o oratory_n he_o account_v not_o our_o parochial_a church_n as_o true_a church_n nor_o do_v communicate_v with_o they_o as_o such_o a_o subtlety_n beyond_o the_o reach_n of_o the_o old_a brownist_n answ_n deliberate_o to_o print_v such_o untruth_n seem_v tolerable_a in_o he_o but_o to_o say_v they_o be_v such_o will_v seem_v passion_n in_o i_o and_o what_o other_o answer_n be_v they_o capable_a of_o what_o i_o express_o say_v of_o the_o three_o forementioned_a except_v sort_n he_o feign_v i_o to_o say_v of_o all_o or_o most_o of_o the_o parish_n church_n and_o yet_o dare_v not_o deny_v the_o truth_n of_o any_o one_o of_o the_o exception_n 1._o do_v not_o all_o those_o man_n take_v the_o parish_n for_o no_o proper_a political_a church_n but_o only_o for_o part_n of_o the_o diocesan_n church_n such_o as_o we_o call_v curate_n chapel_n who_o say_v that_o a_o bishop_n be_v a_o constitutive_a part_n of_o a_o true_a political_a church_n and_o enter_v the_o definition_n and_o that_o it_o be_v no_o church_n that_o have_v no_o bishop_n and_o that_o diocesan_a church_n be_v the_o low_a political_a and_o do_v i_o need_v to_o tell_v he_o how_o considerable_a these_o man_n be_v among_o they_o 2._o do_v he_o himself_o take_v any_o one_o of_o these_o for_o a_o true_a political_a church_n when_o i_o be_v young_a divers_a layman_n by_o turn_n be_v our_o public_a read_v teacher_n among_o the_o rest_n one_o be_v after_o prove_v to_o counterfeit_a order_n this_o man_n act_n be_v no_o nullity_n to_o we_o that_o know_v it_o not_o but_o when_o we_o know_v of_o such_o must_v we_o take_v they_o for_o true_a pastor_n and_o it_o for_o a_o true_a church_n sect._n 11._o p._n 221._o he_o say_v any_o parochial_a church_n that_o have_v such_o a_o one_o a_o bishop_n or_o pastor_n over_o they_o that_o have_v the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n and_o own_v itself_o to_o be_v independent_a he_o allow_v to_o be_v a_o true_a church_n and_o none_o else_o answ_n
i_o contradict_v myself_o by_o say_v the_o same_o thing_n personal_a fault_n i_o distinguish_v from_o ministerial_a and_o tolerable_a ministerial_a from_o intolerable_a then_o and_o now_o and_o be_v this_o contradiction_n do_v not_o all_o do_v so_o too_o till_o now_o yea_o in_o the_o place_n cite_v by_o he_o i_o 1._o say_v that_o as_o to_o personal_a fault_n as_o swear_v drunkenness_n etc._n etc._n they_o shall_v get_v a_o better_a man_n if_o lawful_o they_o can_v 2._o and_o i_o name_v just_a as_o here_o the_o intolerable_a insufficiency_n direct_a pag._n 747._o viz._n 1._o a_o utter_a insufficiency_n in_o knowledge_n and_o utterance_n for_o the_o necessary_a part_n of_o the_o ministerial_a work_n 2._o if_o he_o set_v himself_o to_o oppose_v the_o end_n of_o the_o ministry_n etc._n etc._n by_o heresy_n malignity_n and_o i_o name_v the_o fault_n that_o necessitate_v not_o separation_n sect._n 20._o next_o he_o cit_v my_o word_n against_o some_o man_n factious_a separate_n humour_n and_o do_v it_o follow_v that_o because_o many_o be_v unfit_a to_o judge_v aright_o that_o the_o people_n must_v take_v all_o obtrude_v pastor_n and_o not_o judge_v to_o who_o to_o trust_v the_o conduct_n of_o their_o soul_n how_o unfit_a be_v the_o ignorant_a to_o judge_v who_o be_v a_o meet_a physician_n lawyer_n arbitrator_n yea_o or_o wife_n or_o husband_n for_o they_o and_o yet_o judge_v they_o must_v as_o well_o as_o they_o can_v do_v you_o not_o expect_v notwithstanding_o their_o unfitness_n that_o they_o judge_v your_o book_n and_o argue_v to_o be_v true_a than_o i_o and_o be_v it_o by_o your_o bare_a authority_n that_o they_o must_v so_o judge_v sect._n 21._o but_o he_o much_o blame_v i_o for_o lay_v the_o case_n far_o off_o when_o it_o be_v the_o london_n separation_n which_o he_o question_v where_o the_o minister_n be_v no_o such_o man_n answ_n can_v any_o man_n have_v so_o far_o search_v his_o heart_n as_o to_o know_v that_o he_o speak_v only_o against_o separation_n in_o this_o 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