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rom._n cap._n 3._o august_n de_fw-fr fide_fw-la &_o operibus_fw-la rom._n 4._o psalm_n 32._o d._n basil._n de_fw-fr humilitate_fw-la 1._o cor._n 13._o mat._n 7._o 22._o 23._o galat._n 5._o ephe_n ephe._n 2._o 8_o 9_o apoc._n 22._o the_o pamphleteer_n do_v say_v that_o we_o refuse_v to_o subscribe_v not_o show_v m._n campion_n addition_n of_o merit_n matth._n 10._o 1._o corinth_n 1._o 29_o 30_o 31._o ephe._n 2._o 8_o 9_o rom._n 3._o 27._o rom._n 4._o 2._o mark_n 16._o both_o basill_n &_o nazianzen_n be_v offer_v but_o it_o be_v nazianzen_n &_o not_o basill_n as_o they_o report_v august_n de_fw-fr fide_fw-la &_o operibus_fw-la here_o be_v speech_n that_o nothing_o be_v mean_v by_o the_o note_n but_o a_o private_a matter_n &_o to_o prevent_v false_a report_n and_o this_o he_o speak_v with_o great_a jollity_n &_o scoff_o here_o be_v much_o a_o do_v about_o writing_n &_o yet_o i_o never_o know_v any_o thing_n imprint_v that_o may_v prejudice_n he_o 1._o argument_n here_o the_o word_n of_o the_o text_n be_v read_v bold_a asseâ—…â—…rations_n tobias_n be_v of_o another_o time_n for_o it_o be_v from_o the_o day_n of_o achab_n unto_o salmanazar_n 140._o year_n at_o the_o least_o campion_n â—…greeth_v not_o with_o other_o of_o his_o own_o side_n 2._o argument_n pillar_n be_v erect_v in_o every_o place_n with_o this_o blasphemous_a inscription_n superstitione_n christi_n ubiq_n deleta_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o papist_n call_v justice_n for_o treason_n persecution_n for_o religion_n strange_a divinity_n the_o three_o argument_n homil._n in_o math._n 24._o there_o be_v no_o other_o proof_n there_o be_v none_o other_o way_n to_o know_v the_o church_n or_o true_a christianity_n but_o only_o by_o the_o scripture_n 4._o argument_n camp_n ratione_fw-la secunda_fw-la hanc_fw-la pervestigemus_fw-la ex_fw-la verbis_fw-la adiacentibus_fw-la voces_fw-la clausulâ—…_n tota_fw-la connexio_fw-la absurdity_n ergo_fw-la precept_n give_v to_o the_o m._n his_o calling_n be_v give_v to_o the_o family_n here_o m._n d._n goad_n be_v turn_v for_o chrys._n upon_o this_o place_n and_o he_o will_v that_o it_o may_v be_v show_v at_o the_o next_o meeting_n ad_fw-la nauseam_fw-la â—…sque_fw-la here_o camp_n after_o his_o bold_a manner_n do_v insolent_o insult_v by_o these_o vain_a question_n the_o discipline_n of_o the_o church_n perpetual_a &_o necessary_a though_o it_o be_v not_o always_o have_v &_o put_v in_o practice_n therefore_o it_o be_v not_o always_o visible_a ephes._n 1_o absurd_a the_o commandment_n in_o the_o institution_n bind_v christian_n to_o receive_v the_o cup._n and_o paul_n say_v 1._o cor._n 11._o that_o which_o i_o receive_v of_o the_o lord_n whereby_o he_o teach_v that_o he_o have_v a_o commandment_n absurd_a who_o can_v dispute_v with_o he_o that_o deni_v the_o ground_n of_o disputation_n this_o discontent_a other_o also_o that_o stand_v by_o they_o may_v be_v reckon_v bear_v within_o the_o covenant_n but_o they_o be_v not_o his_o child_n if_o they_o be_v not_o elect_v though_o we_o judge_v they_o not_o because_o their_o not_o be_v elect_v do_v not_o appear_v unto_o we_o the_o second_o argument_n here_o be_v promise_n that_o the_o place_n shall_v be_v show_v here_o there_o be_v a_o little_a whisper_n among_o the_o company_n as_o if_o it_o have_v be_v a_o soft_a hiss_v scripture_n most_o absurd_o apply_v campions_n absurdity_n 3._o argument_n and_o yet_o who_o know_v not_o that_o general_a council_n have_v be_v contrary_a one_o direct_o against_o another_o here_o the_o papist_n in_o a_o libel_n bring_v out_o of_o lancashire_n do_v report_v this_o far_o otherwise_o as_o they_o do_v all_o the_o rest_n but_o none_o true_o they_o that_o be_v present_a can_v tell_v 4._o argument_n here_o for_o lack_v of_o the_o book_n present_v it_o be_v refer_v to_o the_o show_v of_o the_o place_n afterward_o absurd_a for_o there_o be_v as_o great_a necessity_n of_o the_o one_o sacrament_n as_o the_o other_o the_o greek_a testament_n be_v reach_v unto_o he_o he_o refuse_v to_o read_v it_o in_o the_o greek_a all_o this_o be_v but_o a_o vain_a brag_n for_o his_o sight_n in_o greek_a be_v very_o little_a or_o none_o at_o all_o as_o may_v appear_v in_o the_o first_o day_n conference_n here_o all_o so_o and_o afterward_o argument_n 5._o here_o campion_n interrupt_v he_o say_v there_o be_v no_o such_o place_n &_o make_v much_o a_o do_v augustin_n argument_n here_o the_o book_n be_v promise_v to_o be_v bring_v &_o the_o place_n to_o be_v show_v 6._o argument_n here_o it_o be_v promise_v that_o it_o shall_v be_v show_v the_o seven_o argument_n this_o d._n fulke_o read_v out_o of_o his_o note_n book_n concilior_fw-la tom._n primo_fw-la de_fw-fr ord_n celeb_fw-mi concilii_fw-la argument_n 8._o 9_o argument_n ad_fw-la dard._n epist._n 57_o a_o fancy_n in_o philosophy_n here_o it_o appear_v that_o many_o be_v offend_v with_o the_o indignity_n thereof_o the_o question_n here_o m._n lieutenant_n be_v content_a that_o any_o learned_a man_n present_a may_v moderate_v but_o none_o will_v take_v it_o upon_o they_o council_n to._n 3._o fol._n 139._o argument_n 1._o 2._o argument_n some_o of_o these_o word_n be_v then_o omit_v &_o not_o read_v for_o brevity_n sake_n 3._o argument_n 4._o argument_n 5._o argument_n here_o d._n fulke_n be_v admonish_v to_o rehearse_v the_o place_n in_o english_a that_o the_o people_n may_v understande_v 6._o argument_n argument_n 7._o 8._o argument_n 9_o argument_n here_o m._n lieutenant_n admonish_v they_o that_o the_o time_n be_v pass_v 10._o argument_n 12._o augument_n the_o question_n 1._o argument_n 2._o argument_n 3._o argument_n 4._o argum_fw-la argument_n 5._o 6._o argument_n gene._n 17._o exod._n 12._o absurd_a substance_n must_v be_v in_o a_o certain_a vacaunt_n or_o void_a emptiness_n and_o yet_o forsooth_o in_o quantity_n and_o quality_n 8._o argument_n argument_n 9_o 10._o argument_n 12._o argument_n 2._o pet._n 2._o 1._o cor._n 11._o 2._o thes._n 2._o the_o questionâ—…_n a_o proverbial_a speech_n signify_v thus_o much_o if_o you_o take_v any_o pleasure_n in_o speak_v evil_a you_o shall_v lose_v it_o in_o hear_v evil_a 1._o argument_n 1._o argum._n ignorance_n of_o the_o story_n 〈◊〉_d pet._n 1._o 21._o here_o be_v a_o common_a good_a like_n of_o this_o way_n campion_n do_v often_o add_v &_o alter_v his_o answer_n while_o they_o be_v in_o writing_n before_o he_o desire_v it_o &_o now_o be_v straighten_v he_o dislike_v it_o and_o count_v it_o loss_n of_o time_n the_o adversary_n against_o himself_o and_o yet_o turn_v from_o all_o his_o shift_n in_o english_a if_o so_o be_v i_o have_v do_v well_o &_o as_o agree_v with_o a_o story_n this_o i_o do_v desire_n if_o not_o so_o worthy_o it_o must_v be_v pardon_v in_o i_o judith_n 10._o 3._o 4._o judith_n 10._o vers_fw-la 12_o 13._o &_o 11._o 19_o and_o 12._o 14._o jud._n 9_o vers_fw-la 10._o let_v he_o be_v take_v with_o the_o snare_n of_o his_o eye_n set_v on_o i_o and_o smite_v he_o with_o the_o lip_n of_o my_o love_n turn_v my_o speech_n into_o fraud_n by_o campionâ—…_n doctrine_n no_o practice_n be_v unlawful_a so_o it_o be_v for_o the_o delivery_n of_o their_o church_n rom._n 3._o 8._o moreover_o judith_n do_v praise_v that_o act_n which_o the_o holy_a ghost_n do_v flat_o condemn_v vide_fw-la jud._n 9_o 2._o &_o gen_fw-la 49._o 5._o etc._n etc._n job._n 13._o 7._o camp_n know_v not_o his_o own_o translation_n arg._n prim_fw-la prove_v that_o the_o scripture_n contain_v sufficient_a doctrine_n to_o salvation_n in_o the_o form_n or_o manner_n of_o the_o church_n arg._n 2._o rom._n 4._o 11._o colos._n 2._o 11_o 12._o gen._n 17._o 12._o 1._o cor._n 10._o 1._o luke_n 22._o 49._o joh._n 15._o 26._o john_n 2._o 22._o campion_n be_v ready_a to_o move_v 2_o new_a matter_n then_o to_o answer_v one_o argument_n rom._n 11._o 6._o if_o the_o apostle_n prove_v all_o by_o scripture_n as_o campion_n grant_v why_o shall_v not_o all_o other_o do_v the_o like_a john_n 5._o 46._o 〈◊〉_d argum._n by_o campion_n own_o answer_n the_o apostle_n speak_v of_o faith_n only_o here_o again_o it_o appear_v by_o his_o answer_n that_o the_o apostle_n teach_v faith_n only_o nothing_o to_o the_o matter_n 1_o 2_o the_o very_a word_n 3._o argum._n exformula_n gal._n 3._o 11._o &_o 12_o gal._n 3._o 12._o argument_n 4._o canisius_n in_o caâ—…ech_n payu_n andr._n lib._n 9_o orthodox_n expl._n matth._n 11._o 19_o luke_n 7._o 29._o arg._n 4._o arg._n 5._o arg._n 6._o to_o trifle_v and_o shift_v by_o childish_a word_n in_o fact_n and_o deed_n