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appearea_fw-mi to_o some_o on_o earth_n at_o saint_n august_n witness_v lib._n de_fw-fr cura_fw-la mortis_fw-la cap._n 14._o nor_o can_v any_o be_v so_o senseless_a as_o to_o say_v they_o pray_v for_o themselves_o contrary_n to_o their_o own_o bible_n if_o a_o horse_n or_o a_o ass_n shall_v pray_v etc._n etc._n where_o note_n that_o theodoret_n paraphrase_v upon_o baruch_n interprete_v this_o very_a place_n as_o catholic_n do_v now_o be_v the_o sun_n more_o clear_a than_o that_o saint_n pray_v for_o we_o job_n 1._o 5._o 〈◊〉_d s._n august_n himself_o expound_v this_o very_a place_n as_o catholic_n do_v in_o his_o annot._n upon_o job._n if_o it_o have_v not_o be_v the_o common_a custom_n in_o the_o time_n of_o job_n to_o invocate_v the_o saint_n decease_v it_o have_v be_v friuâ—lous_a for_o eliphas_n to_o have_v ask_v job_n to_o which_o of_o the_o saint_n he_o will_v t_o 〈…〉_z see_v more_o contrary_a to_o express_v word_n of_o their_o own_o bibles_n in_o second_o of_o king_n but_o be_v the_o 4_o by_o the_o account_n of_o catholic_n 13._o 21._o s._n chrysost_o to._n 5._o cont_n gentil_n quòd_fw-la christus_fw-la sit_fw-la deus_fw-la in_o a_o whole_a book_n prove_v hereby_o and_o by_o the_o like_a virtue_n of_o other_o saint_n that_o christ_n their_o lord_n and_o master_n be_v god_n who_o servant_n napkin_n and_o shadow_n can_v do_v such_o wonder_n be_v they_o not_o therefore_o fool_n and_o blind_a that_o keep_v such_o a_o â—ooting_n at_o holybread_n hooker_n poor_a protestant_n whither_o now_o be_v thy_o figure_n flee_v see_v father_n that_o affirm_v the_o same_o s._n ignat._v in_o his_o epist_n ad_fw-la smyr_n justin_n mar._n apol._n 2._o ad_fw-la antoninum_fw-la now_o say_v the_o truth_n and_o shame_v the_o devil_n be_v not_o they_o sick_a in_o their_o wit_n which_o will_v oppose_v such_o plain_a scripture_n deuter._n 23._o 22._o psal_n 66._o 13._o psal_n 19_o 11._o 1._o tim._n math._n 5._o 12._o jer._n 35._o 5._o therefore_o it_o be_v ground_v etc._n etc._n 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psal_n 118._o where_o first_o our_o lord_n have_v teach_v his_o own_o disciple_n that_o excellent_a prayer_n of_o all_o prayer_n which_o he_o will_v have_v they_o to_o offer_v to_o he_o the_o pater_fw-la noster_fw-la or_o our_o lord_n prayer_n he_o afterward_o in_o many_o other_o place_n will_v they_o to_o pray_v always_o as_o luke_n 18._o 1._o the_o angel_n in_o the_o prophet_n isaiah_n isaiah_n 6._o and_o the_o beast_n in_o the_o apoc._n apo._n 4._o which_o rest_n neither_o dâ—y_n nor_o night_n do_v thrice_o repeat_v etc._n etc._n