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A96140	Mr. Edwards pen no slander: or, The Gangræna once more searched: which being found very full of corrupt matter, that part of his foul mouth is seringed, and washed with a moderate answer, given by Tho: Web, to that part of his book, wherein Mr. Edwards chargeth him for delivering severall Antinomian doctrines. In which answer is proved, that many things wherewith Mr. Edwards chargeth him, is false. Also, that Mr. Edwards charging any in such a nature is contrary to rule, and against all examples in Scripture, and tends unto division in these distracting times. / By Thomas Webbe.	Webbe, Thomas.	1646 (1646)	Wing W1206; Thomason E337_34; ESTC R200835	14,930	16

Justices reason was I know not he himself did endeavou● to give a false interpretation of my words saying that I spake as Mr. Edwards indee● did write but before we parted I did clear my self before them and yet Mr. Edwards names it in his Book which is neither wise nor just for him to raise up that which was buried and that which is not true But I much blame not Mr. Edwards but his Informer who was present and if I mistake not a man not to be believed for while I was before the Justices he pleaded against me for being an Independent and yet he himself the next morning speaking with an honest Christian man of the same Town told him That he did hope the Independents would have the day Nay since his leaving of the same Town and being without a benefice told a Gentleman of Newbery who was to seek out for an honest Minister that he was an Independent any thing to get a Benefice I might name many things wherein I might prove him not to be a man worthy to be believed but love constraines me for the Gospels sake rather to pitie and weep over him then to speak or do any thing that may conduce to his hurt though he was a man that sought and used many wayes to prejudice me but I may say as the Wise-man saith He is faln into that pit which he himself digged for me he sought to make me odious and in the end he himself became odious so that I see my enemy fall before me insomuch that not one in the Town would lodge him except it were the Divels Shop-houses as he himself cals them Ale-houses I mean which made him to leave the Town to whom he was then Minister but I forbear leaving both him and my self to God that if it be his will we may both receive his Image whereby we may walk one towards another as becommeth Brethren So I conclude with an humble request to Mr. Edwards that for the time to come he would be pleased to believe none let them come with what fair pretences soever though it be against the Independents but what his eyes seeth and his ears hear the contrary being that which gives abuse First to the Gospel in that the Professors thereof should take up base and beggarly informations one against another which in these our days is the Gospels reproach Secondly it gives abuse to both the Honourable Houses of Parliament First in presenting that unto them as Accusations which cannot with safety to the presenter be deposed of oath as bare informations cannot but I could wish seeing he hath presented so many accusations to the Honourable Houses they would please to call him to depose it upon oath for if nothing as an accusation is to be given in to any inferiour Court much lesse into that without it can be deposited upon oath Secondly in the presenting of these things to the Highest Court in England where ought to be none but matters of the highes● nature which is not fit to be heard in an inferiour Court nay such things as will cause a gracious heart to blush and to stop his ear in the reading of now that such things should be presented to the Honourable Houses wherein are so many spirituall and gracious hearts I hope I need not mention any one thing but I leave the Christian to the reading of his book Now what abuses he hath here offered to the Honourable House let all that truly love them judge In the third place he mightily wrongs the Cause wherein those that are truly cordiall to the Parliament are deeply engaged First in giving the common enemy not onely cause to blaspheme but also an advantage against us and this he doth by divulging abroad to the world the differences that are amongst us Secondly he wrongs the Cause which is this bleeding Kingdomes good in that through his false accusing those who are as reall for the PARLIAMENT and this Kingdomes good as himself if without offence I may make comparisons for I know that many who have done great service for the Parliament and Kingdome have disserted their service because that while they have been fighting against the common enemy they themselves have been fought against by him and others and for their service done the Parliament they have been both in Pulpit Presse divulg'd to the world under the names of Hereticks Schismaticks and many other such like names which have disheartened many and caused them to leave the service Truly me thinks that if Mr. Edwards was cordiall in his love towards the good of this dying Kingdome he would have hid and covered the infirmities if he did see any of those who are willing to die rather then this Kingdome or the Parliament thereof should die in the destroying of the common enemy what if his honour had faln by the infirmities of those who were as aforesaid me thinks if he had not been altogether for himself but had altogether aimed and sought after the Kingdomes good he would willingly have lost his honour rather then this Kingdome and its Parliament should dye in the losing of their priviledges which is the honour glory and life of both to which the priviledge honour and life of one man is nothing It 's a sad thing that a Kingdome should die Parliament die and all because we cannot passe by honour and others infirmities even one of another Oh who cannot but passe by all for this Kingdoms good Nay sad it is that Ministers who have taught do not do so what will become of this dying Kingdome this is sad But this is sadder even that Brethren for whom Christ died and shed his precious bloud that they should not hide each others infirmities but are ready and daily do pierce tongue and pen like Jewish spears into each others sides whereby they bleed and dye by the hand one of another Oh who cannot but mourn in the hearing and reading railing accusations of one brother against another Christ laid down his life for us that we might lay down our lives one for another but oh how do we dye one for another when we set forth railing accusations one against another Christ denied all that he might bring us to all and that when we were enemies but do we deny our selves and all to bring those that are out of our judgement to the knowledge of the truth whereby they may sweetly close with us as one with and in the truth O no what disputes what railings and heart-burnings nay what praying is there one against another so that whereas we should seek after and pray one for anothers good we pray and seek after the contrary even the ruine and destruction one of another and that of Brethren Oh who cannot but die in the beholding one Brother die by the hands of another for whom CHRIST died FINIS

can even the worlds reading and spelling out of Christ in our bookes when it may not in his Mr. Edwards in his booke writes that I have been in Essex Suffolk and Kent where I have vented Antinomian doctrines its true I have been in these three Counties but for venting Antinomian doctrins that I am ignorant of but I humbly desire Mr. Edwards that if he writes againe he would be willing to explaine what he meanes by Antinomianisme and where my doctrine was such for Suffolk he names not the particulars of my doctrine it may be it s because he knowes them not or if he doth know it s because it was against covetuousnesse but it seems by the story that what doctrine soever it were it s called by him Antinomianisme well but if to set up Christ and to beat downe covetuousnesse be so I did do it and I hope God will still carry me forth so to do and the Scripture I there spake from was Act. 5.11 and if there be man or woman that can charge me with delivering Antinomians doctrins I in a brotherly manner desire to be informed And he saith further that I would have taught in publike if the Minister had not hindred me surely his informer is fe'd well which makes him to informe him any thing it s no matter whether they be true or false any thing to please children for while I was in Suffolk which was not a week I taught foure tymes twice on the Lords day and twice the Wednesday following which was the fast day and not once in private the Townes name is Stocke neere Clare in Suffolk nor was I hindred by any Minister as he writes nor was there any one Minister in the Countie that was moved to let me teach and the Towne wherein I was was then destitute of a Minister For Essex he saith I taught in one Mr. Sparrowes house of Colchester against all baptism truly severall times I did speak in the said house and being occasioned through the dispute of some honest people that are under baptism touching the same and I being engaged in the same dispute did deliver my selfe as followeth First viz. that the Scripture puts a difference between the baptism of John and the baptism of Christ Johns being of water and Christs being of the Holy Ghost according as is witnessed by these insuing Scriptures Math 3.11 Secondly that Johns baptism which was water did end at the comming of Christ as John 3.30 and that because it manifested a Christ to come unto Jsrael who being already come is ceased Iohn 1.31 which I having premised I gave out my thoughts that there must be a second institution of baptism with water or else it is not of that weight as many of our friends take it to be which institution I read not of in any part of the New Testament I meane that CHRIST in his person did not institute the same as I reade of And in Matth. Chapt. the 28. where my friends conceive that CHRIST did institute that Ordinance of water which they practice I conceive it may as well be applied to any other Baptisme as that of the holy Ghost as to water the Text not naming of water yet notwithstanding I did not then nor do I now deny the practice of it onely as I said then so I say now by way of exhortation desiring those my friends not to make such a division about it knowing that neither circumcision nor uncircumcision availeth any thing save onely the Baptisme of the holy Spirit which is the New-creature intreating of them to look more after the said baptisme and then would our divisions about the former cease and we being baptized by one Spirit into one Body should sweetly live in and to one another as members of one body Now those my friends that were then present could not give me satisfaction in proving Baptisme with water to be instituted by Christ or in any part of the New Testament was given forth by him while personally upon earth to his Apostles And Paul saith He was not sent to Baptize but to preach 1 Cor. 1.17 But if Mr. Edwards will be pleased to appear in the proving of it I shall much praise God for it and shall acknowledge him to be my Father in Christ A second thing which Mr. Edwards writes I delivered in the said house is That a Saint may say he is equall with Christ and count it no robbery I could wish with all my heart that he would if it had been an errour have done God so much service as to have disproved it I was speaking out of Joh. 7.22 the words are there The glory which thou gavest me I have given them that they may be one even as thou Father and I am one From these words after some time spent in shewing what this glory was in the generall I came to the particulars or drawing of it out in branches and the first was Gods love the same unto the Saints as unto Christ which I proved by many reasons which now I shall not name but there being amongst many Scriptures one very pertinent to the thing I named it which is Vers 23. Thou hast loved them as thou hast loved me Christ sets forth the Fathers love to the Saints by the Fathers love to him as thou hast loved me I opened this word as wherein lieth much which is not now my businesse onely I humbly intreat Mr. Edwards that if he judge it to be an errour that he would prove it so to be for he leaving a thing neither proving nor yet disproving of it to be a truth makes me with many think that he believes it to be a truth but would not have the Saints to know of it or else because the world not being to judge of such things but is ready to speak evill of dignities even of what they know not he presents it them that so I might become the more odious and vile in their sight and truly if it be an errour as I desire him to prove I shall leave it reioycing in the Lord for his love in taking me off from it But blame me not if I still remain in the same judgement having as I conceive the Word of God to be my rule provided I meet with a fair candid interpretation of my words as Rom. 8. Eph. 1.3 1 Joh. 4.17 But if God by any shall give me forth an understanding of these Scriptures which is contrary to what I bring them for I am one who am not willing to withstand truth but desire to be overcome by truth in every thing though it come but from the hands of the poorest creature under heaven whose Scholler I am ready to be when ever God shall teach me any thing by him A third thing which Mr. Edwards charges me withall is how that I being talking with an honest Christian in Colchester should use this expression That it was not lawfull to say God the Father God the