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to_o wage_v war_n against_o the_o turk_n a_o error_n which_o enen_fw-la the_o great_a idolatour_n of_o luther_n have_v main_o condemn_v luther_n word_n be_v these_o 34._o praeliari_fw-la contra_fw-la turcas_fw-la est_fw-la repugnare_fw-la deo_fw-la visitanti_fw-la iniquitates_fw-la nostras_fw-la per_fw-la illos_fw-la to_o wage_v war_n against_o the_o turk_n be_v to_o resist_v god_n visit_v our_o sinne_n by_o they_o a_o point_n so_o confess_v that_o erasmus_n thus_o write_v of_o the_o consequence_n and_o effect_n of_o luther_n doctrine_n many_o germaniae_fw-la of_o the_o saxon_n follow_v herein_o that_o firct_a doctrine_n of_o luther_n deny_v to_o caesar_n and_o king_n ferdinand_n aid_n against_o the_o turk_n etc._n etc._n and_o say_v they_o have_v rather_o fight_v for_o a_o turk_n not_o baptise_a then_o for_o a_o turk_n baptise_a meaning_n the_o emperor_n thus_o erasmus_n 8._o touch_v faith_n and_o good_a work_n luther_n teach_v a_o heresy_n disallow_v by_o all_o learned_a protestant_n 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you_o the_o power_n christ_n his_o mearcy_n and_o the_o holy-g_a 〈…〉_z rection_n and_o spirit_n for_o the_o 〈…〉_z your_o soul_n with_o so_o 〈…〉_z able_a a_o â—ewell_n animâ—_n cut_v veritas_fw-la comp_n 〈◊〉_d siâ—â—_n 〈…〉_z cognitus_fw-la 〈…〉_z christo_fw-la â—cui_fw-la crâ—â—us_fw-la exploratus_fw-la â—ine_o spiritu_fw-la sancto_fw-la cui_fw-la spiritus_fw-la â—anctu_fw-la accomodaâ—us_n sine_fw-la siâ—ei_fw-la sacramento_n laus_fw-la deo_fw-la &_o beat_v virgini_fw-la maria._n maria._n rom._n 1._o &_o 15._o &_o 16._o act._n 28._o 28._o nazianz_n in_o carmine_fw-la de_fw-la vita_fw-la sua_fw-la sua_fw-la isaiah_n 60._o 60._o a_o dye_n or_o any_o foursquared_a thing_n thing_n 2._o cor_fw-la 3._o 3._o dan._n 3._o 3._o calvin_n be_v charge_v with_o sodomy_n by_o the_o public_a record_n of_o the_o city_n of_o noyon_n in_o france_n yet_o extant_a and_o by_o conradus_n slussenberg_n a_o protestant_n in_o theol._n calvin_n print_a 1594._o l._n 2._o fol._n 72._o beza_n be_v charge_v with_o 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ult._n joan._n 3._o 3._o 2._o petr._n 2._o 2._o malach._n 3_o 3_o rom._n 1._o 1._o rom._n ibid._n ibid._n rom._n 16._o 16._o rom._n 1._o 1._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 13._o 13._o galat_n 6._o 6._o d._n whita_n thus_o say_v cont_n camp_n rat._n 7_o 7_o d._n whita_n ub_z supra_fw-la supra_fw-la rom._n 15._o 15._o d._n whit._n cont_n camp_n rat._n 7._o 7._o d._n whit._n use_v these_o very_a word_n l._n cont_n camp_n rat._n 7._o saying_n haec_fw-la sunt_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la vestrae_fw-la insignia_fw-la superstitio_fw-la infidelitas_fw-la antichristus_fw-la epicurus_n epicurus_n psalm_n 68_o et_fw-la joan._n 2._o 2._o d._n whit._n cont_n bellar._n l._n de_fw-la eccles_n coutrover_n 2._o q._n 5._o c._n 14._o say_v efficax_n est_fw-la aduersariorun_n ipsorum_fw-la contra_fw-la ipsos_fw-la testimonium_fw-la etc._n etc._n et_fw-la quidem_fw-la fateor_fw-la veritatem_fw-la a_o suis_fw-la inimiciâ—_n testimoniis_fw-la extorquere_fw-la posse_fw-la posse_fw-la cont_n donat_n post_fw-la coll_n c._n 24._o 24._o bell._n thus_o say_v verbal_a lie_n in_o l._n 4._o de_fw-fr eccles_n c._n 5_o de_fw-fr not._n eccles_n nota_fw-la secunda_fw-la secunda_fw-la d._n fulk_n in_o his_o coful_a of_o purgat_fw-la p._n 374._o 374._o d._n whit._fw-la coâ—t_fw-la a_o bell._n l._n de_fw-fr eccles_n where_o he_o spoke_v of_o certain_a apostol_n church_n &_o particular_o of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n rome_n in_o his_o confutat_fw-la of_o purgatory_n pag._n 372._o 372._o in_o his_o reply_n to_o d._n haâ—ding_n pag._n 246._o 246._o 〈…〉_z it_o l._n 4._o c._n 2._o sect_n 3._o 3._o retentives_n pag._n 85._o 85._o fp._n ad_fw-la pom_n 〈…〉_z p._n â—7_n ad_fw-la damas_n damas_n l._n 3._o adver_v haeres_fw-la c._n 3._o 3._o tom._n 7._o in_o psal_n cent._n parâ—e_o do_v 〈…〉_z 2._o ep._n 165._o et_fw-la lib._n ae_z utilit_fw-la credenaâ—_n c._n 17._o 17._o aduer_n haeres_fw-la paulo_n pos_fw-fr 〈…〉_z init_fw-la init_fw-la de_fw-fr obiâ—_n fracâ—_n fracâ—_n so_o doct._n whit_n style_v d._n clarke_n in_o l._n con_v camp_n rat._n 8._o meaning_n theirby_o his_o cemâ—â—les_n et_fw-la consocius_fw-la in_o doctrina_fw-la doctrina_fw-la d._n humâ—â—y_o in_o jesuitism_n part_n 2._o rat._n 5._o pag._n 5._o et_fw-la pag._n 627_o 627_o alwhich_a place_n follow_v of_o the_o cen_n wri_v thus_o charge_v gregory_n be_v to_o be_v find_v in_o their_o six_o century_n after_o the_o first_o edition_n there_o of_o between_o col_n 369._o and_o col._n 432._o 432._o in_o his_o epitome_n hist_o eccles_n cent._n 6._o â—ag_v 289._o 289._o d._n whit._n lib._n de_fw-fr eccle._n cent_n bellaâ—_n pag._n 144._o 144._o d_o whit_n ubi_fw-la supra_fw-la p._n 339._o 1._o 1._o cent._n 3._o c._n 4._o col_fw-fr 3_o 3_o cent_z 4_o c._n 4._o col_fw-fr 295._o 295._o in_o his_o confutation_n of_o purgatory_n p._n 362._o et_fw-la 303._o et_fw-la 393._o 393._o epist_n dâ—_n abrogand_fw-mi &_o omnibus_fw-la statuâ—is_fw-la ecclesiast_n ecclesiast_n cent._n 4._o col_fw-fr 558._o 2._o 2._o cent._n 3._o col_fw-fr 94._o 94._o cent._n 3._o cap_n 84._o 84._o cent._n 3._o col_fw-fr 85._o 85._o d._n fulke_n in_o hiâ—_n answer_v to_o a_o counterfeit_v catholic_n p._n 36_o 36_o in_o his_o retentive_a pag._n 106._o 106._o m._n georg_n gifford_n in_o his_o demonstration_n that_o brownist_n be_v â—â—ll_v donaâ—â—sâ—â—_n p._n 38._o 4._o 4._o in_o his_o confutation_n of_o purgatory_n p._n 353._o 353._o in_o his_o examen_fw-la part_n 3._o p._n 110_o 110_o act._n act._n against_o the_o rhemish_n test_n 2._o thess_n 2._o 2._o d._n fulke_n in_o rhemish_a testament_n in_o 2._o petr._n cap._n 1._o 1._o cent._n 3._o col_fw-fr 84._o 84._o cent._n 3._o col_fw-fr 83._o 83._o cent._n 3._o col_fw-fr 75._o 75._o cent_z 3._o c._n 4._o col_fw-fr 83._o 5._o 5._o cent._n 2._o c._n 10._o col_fw-fr 221._o 221._o cent._n 2._o pag._n 56._o 56._o abraham_n sâ—ulteâ—us_n in_o his_o medulla_n theolog._n ca_fw-mi patrum_fw-la pag._n 379._o 6._o 6._o in_o galat._n cap._n 4._o 4._o cent._n 3._o col_fw-fr 265._o 265._o d._n humf._n in_o â—esuct_v 〈…〉_z part._n 2._o pag_n 530._o 530._o so_o say_v d._n whit._n 〈…〉_z de_fw-fr antichristo_fw-la cont_n sanderun_v pag._n 35._o 35._o d._n whit_n cont_n duraeu_fw-fr l._n 7._o p._n 48._o 48._o d._n whit._n cont_n camp_n rat._n 5._o 5._o d._n whit._n cont_n bellar._n pag._n 37._o 37._o so_o faith_n tertullian_n l._n de_fw-fr anima_fw-la c._n 3._o 3._o s._n augnstine_n contrae_fw-la donatist_n c._n 24._o 24._o ephes_n 4._o 4._o against_o the_o remish_n testamment_fw-fr in_o ephes_n 4._o 4._o in_o his_o answer_n to_o a_o counterfeit_n catholic_a pag._n 11._o 11._o d._n whit._n speak_v of_o the_o preach_n of_o the_o word_n etc._n etc._n style_v they_o essentiales_fw-la notae_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la cont._n duraeun_n l._n 3._o p._n 260._o 260._o d._n whit._n say_v si_fw-la adest_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la constituit_fw-la tollitsiauferatur_fw-la cont._n duraeun_n l._n 3._o p._n 249._o 249._o isaiah_n c._n 62._o 62._o lib._n de_fw-fr haeresib_n haeris_n 88_o 89._o et_fw-la haeres_fw-la 692._o 692._o cent._n 6._o col._n 312._o 312._o in_o his_o catalogue_n testium_fw-la veritatis_fw-la veritatis_fw-la in_o epitome_n historiae_fw-la eccles_n eccles_n so_o eugenius_n 4._o be_v note_v by_o the_o council_n of_o basill_n benedictus_n 3_o by_o the_o council_n of_o constance_n gregory_n the_o 7._o by_o benno_n etc._n etc._n etc._n li._n 4._o ep._n 34._o ci_fw-fr 36._o 36._o in_o his_o epi._n universis_fw-la episcopis_fw-la episcopis_fw-la as_o kekermannus_n the_o protestant_n witness_v in_o systen_v theolog._n pag._n 68_o 68_o haer_n 53._o 53._o in_o epist_n ad_fw-la michaelem_fw-la episcop_n constantinop_n 〈◊〉_d 5._o 5._o cent._n 11_o c._n 8._o â—_o haeres_fw-la 75._o 75._o the_o book_n entitle_v the_o relic_n of_o rome_n write_v by_o tho._n beacon_n the_o anatomy_n of_o the_o mass_n by_o anthony_n de_fw-fr adamo_n print_v 1556._o hospinian_n hist_o sacrament_n l._n 2._o c._n 4._o 5._o 6._o 7._o print_v 1591._o beside_o diverse_a other_o other_o beza_n confess_v general_a â—7_n sect._n 12._o 12._o so_o say_v d._n whit._n in_o his_o book_n conâ—_n bellarm._n pag._n 37._o 37._o so_o be_v melanctâ—on_n allege_v by_o m._n harvey_n in_o theolog._n discourse_n pag._n 102._o 102._o in_o his_o libri_fw-la psalm_n quinque_fw-la psal_n 22._o fol._n 146._o 147._o 147._o act._n montanus_n of_o an._n 1576_o pag._n 539._o 539._o upon_o the_o revelation_n in_o c._n 20._o 20._o in_o his_o treatise_n concern_v antichrist_n pag_n 110._o 110._o upon_o the_o apocalypse_n serm_n 16._o pag_n 198._o and_o in_o his_o preface_n to_o the_o apocalypse_n apocalypse_n in_o his_o answer_n to_o a_o couterfâ—yte_a catholic_a p._n 36._o 36._o in_o his_o synop_n p._n 160._o 160._o d._n whitaker_n de_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la coâ—ra_fw-la bellaâ—m_fw-la controver_n 2._o quaest_n 4._o p._n 141._o thus_o write_v d_o cunus_fw-la gregorium_fw-la magnum_fw-la fuisse_fw-la v_o 〈…〉_z mum_o verum_fw-la et_fw-la pâ—um_fw-la ill_a we_o ecclesiae_fw-la epsâ—opâ—â—_n etc._n etc._n q_o 〈…〉_z m_o secuti_fw-la sunt_fw-la fuerunt_fw-la very_fw-la antichrist_n etc._n etc._n et_fw-la quia_fw-la certum_fw-la aliquod_fw-la tempus_fw-la a_o nobis_fw-la quaerâ—ni_fw-la et_fw-la pestulant_fw-la hoc_fw-la tempus_fw-la illis_fw-la designâ—mus_fw-la
apoc._n 17_o 17_o that_o ochinus_n upon_o the_o not_o performance_n of_o the_o prophecy_n of_o the_o old_a testament_n in_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n deny_v the_o trinity_n teach_v circumcision_n and_o become_v a_o absolute_a apostata_fw-la be_v witness_v by_o zanchius_n the_o protestant_n in_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr tribus_fw-la elohim_n print_v 1594._o l_o 5._o c._n 9_o as_o also_o by_o conradus_n slussenb_n a_o protestant_n in_o theolog._n caluinist_n lib._n 1._o fol._n 9_o the_o title_n of_o which_o chapter_n in_o sluffenberg_n be_v respontio_fw-la ad_fw-la ochini_n blasphemiam_fw-la and_o last_o the_o same_o be_v aver_v by_o beza_n in_o polygam_n pag._n 4._o 4._o that_o neuserus_fw-la through_o the_o want_n of_o the_o performance_n of_o the_o foresay_a prophecy_n deny_v our_o saviour_n christ_n repute_v he_o a_o seducer_n turn_v turk_n and_o be_v circumcise_v at_o constantinople_n be_v witness_v by_o osiander_n the_o protestant_n cent._n 16._o part_n 2._o pag._n 818._o in_o these_o word_n adam_n neuserus_fw-la pastor_n heidelbergensis_n etc._n etc._n prolapsus_fw-la est_fw-la in_o turcismum_fw-la &_o consiantinopole_n circumcisus_fw-la as_o also_o by_o conradu_fw-la slussenberg_n in_o theolog._n calvin_n lib._n 1._o art_n 2._o fol._n 9_o in_o these_o word_n adam_n neuserus_fw-la olim_fw-la heidelbergensis_n ecclesia_fw-la primarius_fw-la pastor_n ex_fw-la zwinglianisâ—â—_n per_fw-la arianismum_fw-la ad_fw-la mahometismum_fw-la progressus_fw-la est_fw-la est_fw-la joan._n 1._o 1._o joan._n 1._o 1._o isaiah_n 6._o 6._o malacâ—_n cap._n 4._o 4._o act._n 4._o 4._o see_v hereof_o the_o first_o part_n of_o the_o conâ—erted_v â—ew_a at_o the_o beginning_n beginning_n bale_n in_o prefat_n act_n rome_n pontific_a print_a 1558._o initio_fw-la initio_fw-la calvin_n l._n descandalis_fw-la extant_a in_o tract_n theolog_fw-la print_v 1597_o pag._n 111_o ut_fw-la supra_fw-la dicitur_fw-la dicitur_fw-la 2._o io._n a_o 2._o 2._o osiander_n cent_n 16._o part_n 2._o pag._n 647._o say_v of_o david_n george_n vtebatur_fw-la publico_fw-la vir_fw-la dei_fw-la ministerio_fw-la basiâ—ienâ—i_fw-la etc._n etc._n etc._n see_v historia_fw-la davidis_fw-la georgij_fw-la print_v at_o antwerp_n 1568_o publish_v be_v the_o divine_v of_o basil_n basil_n conradus_n slussenberg_n in_o theolog._n calvin_n l_o 1._o art_n 2._o f._n 9_o alemanus_fw-la bezae_fw-la antea_fw-la famiâ—iarissimâ—s_fw-la &_o â—irenuê°_n caluinista_n râ—ligioni_fw-la christianae_n longum_fw-la valde_fw-la dixiâ—_n &_o factus_fw-la est_fw-la apostata_fw-la &_o judaeus_fw-la blasphemus_fw-la blasphemus_fw-la sâ—_n write_v beza_n in_o epist_n 65._o p._n 308._o 308._o stancurus_fw-la de_fw-la mediatore_fw-la fol._n 38._o 38._o epist_n theol._n 81._o 81._o in_o paâ—aenesi_fw-la paâ—aenesi_fw-la lib_fw-la 1._o câ—_n 19_o l_o 3._o c._n 3._o &_o 8._o and_o in_o diverse_a other_o place_n thereof_o thereof_o lib_fw-la 1._o de_fw-fr theol._n calvin_n aâ—t_fw-la 2._o c._n 9_o 9_o cent._n 16._o p._n 207._o 208._o 209._o 209._o lib._n de_fw-fr ratione_fw-la interpretandi_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 1_o p._n 62._o 63._o and_o osiander_n in_o cent._n 16._o who_o say_v sebastianus_n castaleo_n vir_fw-la asprimè_fw-la doctus_fw-la &c_n &c_n &_o dinguarum_fw-la peritâ—ssimus_fw-la peritâ—ssimus_fw-la in_o the_o preface_n of_o the_o great_a latin_a bible_n dedicate_v to_o king_n edward_n the_o six_o six_o oslander_n in_o epitome_n cent_n 16._o p._n 209._o report_v that_o neuserus_fw-la be_v turn_v turk_n and_o circumcise_v at_o constantinople_n do_v write_v these_o word_n to_o one_o d._n gerlachius_n a_o protestant_n preacher_n at_o tubinga_n from_o constantinople_n constantinople_n d._n reynolds_n in_o his_o censura_fw-la librorum_fw-la apocryphorum_fw-la tom_fw-mi alter_v in_o the_o table_n of_o content_n set_v before_o there_o at_o the_o number_n 161._o 175._o &_o 176._o defend_v against_o bellarm_n ochinus_n his_o book_n write_v against_o the_o mass_n mass_n exod._n 3._o 3._o acts._n c._n 23._o 23._o beza_n 〈◊〉_d de_fw-fr polygamia_n print_v 1527._o p._n 4._o say_v of_o this_o point_n pelygamiam_fw-la nemo_fw-la unqua_fw-la 〈…〉_z callidius_fw-la vel_fw-la impuâ—entiâ—s_fw-la defendit_fw-la quam_fw-la impurus_fw-la ille_fw-la apostata_fw-la ochinus_n iâ—_n quibusdam_fw-la d_o 〈…〉_z 〈…〉_z adamus_n neuserus_fw-la conc_fw-fr 〈…〉_z natores_fw-la inâ—â—_n palatinat_n fiad_a svam_fw-la 〈◊〉_d they_fw-mi perd_v xiâ—_n &_o con_v â—tacta_fw-la cum_fw-la sacerdotibus_fw-la in_fw-la tur_o câ—a_fw-la amicitia_fw-la &_o datil_o atque_fw-la acceptis_fw-la ultro_fw-la citroque_fw-la literis_fw-la mahometanam_fw-la religionem_fw-la in_o germania_n propagare_fw-la 〈◊〉_d ter_z conat_fw-la 〈…〉_z est_fw-la in_o colloquio_fw-la privato_fw-la inter_fw-la catholicum_fw-la pastorem_fw-la &_o baduini_fw-la ministrum_fw-la coloniae_fw-la anno._n 1591._o p._n 5â—â—_n 5â—â—_n beza_n in_o epist_n 1._o p._n 11._o call_v ochinus_n arianorum_n â—â—aâ—dâ—sâ—â—nus_fw-la sautor_n poligâ—niae_fw-la 〈◊〉_d omniam_fw-la christianae_n religionis_fw-la dogmatum_fw-la irrisor_fw-la irrisor_fw-la beza_n de_fw-fr polygaâ—ia_fw-la p_o 4._o call_v ochinus_n impurus_fw-la apostata_fw-la as_o above_o be_v show_v in_o the_o margenâ—_n margenâ—_n psal_n 4._o 4._o d._n fulke_n in_o his_o answer_n to_o a_o counterfeit_v catholic_n p._n 27._o and_o in_o his_o rejoinder_n to_o bristowe_v reply_n p._n 343._o 343._o in_o his_o consideration_n of_o the_o papist_n reason_n p._n 105._o 105._o lib._n de_fw-fr votis_fw-la pag._n 476._o 476._o in_o his_o preface_n upon_o the_o new_a testament_n dedicate_v to_o the_o prince_n of_o condy._n condy._n in_o his_o defence_n of_o the_o answer_n to_o the_o admonition_n p._n 472._o 473._o 473._o melancthon_n in_o 1._o cor_fw-la c._n 3._o 3._o tom._n 2._o wittenberg_n anno_o 2551._o de_fw-fr â—eruo_fw-la arbitrio_fw-la pag._n â—34_n â—34_n in_o his_o exposition_n of_o the_o creed_n p._n 307._o 307._o upon_o the_o revelation_n 〈◊〉_d 43._o 43._o m._n napper_n ubi_fw-la supra_fw-la p._n 68_o 68_o vbi_fw-la supra_fw-la p._n 191._o 191._o in_o epist_n de_fw-fr abrog_n in_o universum_fw-la omnibus_fw-la statut_fw-la ecclesiast_n ecclesiast_n in_o his_o answer_n to_o a_o counterfeit_v catholic_a p._n 35._o 35._o lib._n de_fw-fr votis_n pag._n 477._o 477._o pag._n 13._o 13._o in_o his_o treatise_n of_o antichr_n l._n 2._o c._n 2._o p._n â—5_n â—5_n histor_n sacrament_n lib._n 1._o c._n 6._o pag._n 20._o 20._o michaeas_n cap._n 4._o 4._o d._n whitaker_n say_v so_o l._n contra_fw-la duâ—aeum_fw-la l._n 3._o p._n 249._o 249._o pag._n 3._o 3._o pag._n 17._o 17._o pag._n 24._o 24._o psalm_n 12._o 1._o samuâ—l_n 22._o isaiah_n 1._o 5._o 6._o ezech._n 22._o beside_o other_o other_o lib._n de_fw-fr unâ—tat_fw-la eccleâ—_n c._n 12._o 12._o math._n math._n 1._o timoth_n 3._o 3._o jerome_n advers_a 〈…〉_z ucâ—erean_a ucâ—erean_a lib._n contra_fw-la eunomium_fw-la eunomium_fw-la orationes_fw-la quinque_fw-la in_o theolog_fw-la theolog_fw-la lib._n de_fw-fr trinitate_fw-la trinitate_fw-la catecheses_n catecheses_n lib._n 9_o de_fw-la trinitate_fw-la trinitate_fw-la in_o c._n 1._o ad_fw-la timot._n timot._n contra_fw-la arian_n haeres_fw-la 69._o 69._o pag._n 100_o 100_o pag._n 89._o 89._o pag._n 30._o 30._o lib._n de_fw-fr haeres_fw-la c._n 23._o &_o 46._o 46._o luther_n epist_n ad_fw-la bohem._n &_o lib_n de_fw-fr captivit_fw-la babylon_n 〈…〉_z de_fw-fr euchar._n euchar._n athan._n in_o apolog._n pro_fw-la fulga_n fulga_n jerom._n lib._n contra_fw-la pelag._n pelag._n jerom._n lib._n contra_fw-la vigilant_a 4_o austin_n lib._n de_fw-fr haeres_fw-la c._n 46._o 46._o pag._n 52._o 52._o epist_n 244._o 244._o in_o tract_n de_fw-fr eccles_n p._n 124._o 124._o pag._n 54._o 54._o pag._n 56._o 56._o pag._n 56._o 56._o illyr_n catal_a testium_fw-la vetir_n tom_fw-mi 2._o print_v 1597._o pag._n 872._o valla_n in_o his_o apol._n ad_fw-la eugenium_fw-la papam_fw-la 4._o pontif_n prope_fw-la finem_fw-la finem_fw-la pag._n 57_o &_o sequentib_a sequentib_a pag._n 58._o 58._o pag._n 59_o 〈◊〉_d pag._n 60._o 60._o pag._n 69._o 69._o pag._n 71._o 71._o pag._n 7â—_n 7â—_n pag._n 78._o 78._o r_o pag._n 79._o &_o 80._o 80._o pag._n 81._o 81._o cant._n 24_o deal_v paâ—ad_n that_o be_v o_o eternal_a light_n of_o that_o great_a man_n to_o who_o our_o lord_n do_v leave_v the_o key_n which_o he_o do_v carry_v with_o wonderful_a joy_n joy_n cant._n 2._o dell_n inferno_fw-la inferno_fw-la cant._n 19_o dell_n inferno_fw-la inferno_fw-la cant._n 22._o del_o '_o inferno_fw-la inferno_fw-la lib._n 1._o sevilium_fw-la epistolarun_n ad_fw-la talanandum_fw-la cardinalem_fw-la cardinalem_fw-la lib._n 1._o inuectivarum_fw-la contra_fw-la medicum_fw-la medicum_fw-la pag._n 81._o 81._o vide_fw-la fox_n in_o act_n mon._n speak_v of_o this_o joamneâ—_n de_fw-fr rupe_n scissa_fw-la scissa_fw-la pag._n 81._o 81._o pag._n 82._o 82._o pag._n 91._o 91._o epiton_n cent._n 12._o p._n 309._o 309._o cent._n 12_o col_fw-fr 1627._o and_o 1638._o 1638._o pag_n 92._o 92._o pag._n 93._o 93._o pag._n 95._o 95._o pag._n 96._o 96._o pag._n 96._o 96._o in_o his_o relation_n of_o thestate_a of_o religion_n use_v in_o the_o westpart_n of_o the_o world_n in_o the_o last_o folio_n but_o five_o five_o in_o their_o book_n entitle_v acta_fw-la theologorum_fw-la wittenbergensoum_fw-la &_o jeremiae_n patriarchae_fw-la constanâ—inâ—p_n de_fw-fr augustana_n confession_n etc._n etc._n wittenbergae_n anno_fw-la 1584._o ay_o pag._n 97._o k_o pag._n 98._o 99_o 100_o 〈◊〉_d pag._n 102._o 102._o pag._n 103._o 103._o pag._n 110._o 110._o act._n 24._o the_o jew_n