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A16151 The suruey of Christs sufferings for mans redemption and of his descent to Hades or Hel for our deliuerance: by Thomas Bilson Bishop of Winchester. The contents whereof may be seene in certaine resolutions before the booke, in the titles ouer the pages, and in a table made to that end. Perused and allowed by publike authoritie. Bilson, Thomas, 1546 or 7-1616. 1604 (1604) STC 3070; ESTC S107072 1,206,574 720

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where_o now_o none_o but_o wicked_a be_v contain_v and_o there_o punish_v eustathius_n archbishop_n of_o thessalonica_n a_o man_n of_o no_o mean_a skill_n in_o the_o greek_a tongue_n as_o appear_z by_o his_o comment_n upon_o homer_n say_v i●…ados_n haïde_n which_o be_v hades_n be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d a_o dark_a place_n under_o earth_n unseen_a and_o appoint_v for_o soul_n phavorinus_n bishop_n of_o nuceria_n in_o his_o commentary_n of_o the_o greek_a tongue_n say_v likewise_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d hades_n be_v a_o place_n under_o the_o earth_n secret_a and_o hide_v which_o he_o also_o call_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d a_o place_n without_o light_n and_o fill_v with_o eternal_a darkness_n the_o great_a etymologist_n of_o the_o greek_a tongue_n concur_v with_o they_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d hades_n be_v a_o place_n void_a of_o light_n and_o full_a of_o everlasting_a darkness_n and_o mist_n i_o shall_v not_o need_v with_o many_o word_n to_o 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witness_v it_o to_o be_v nothing_o less_o than_o heaven_n or_o paradise_n or_o the_o state_n of_o the_o dead_a common_a to_o good_a and_o bad_a after_o christ_n resurrection_n as_o likewise_o they_o teach_v that_o christ_n deliver_v thence_o not_o only_o such_o of_o his_o elect_a as_o be_v dead_a before_o that_o time_n but_o all_o the_o faithful_a aswell_o then_o live_v as_o yet_o unborn_a and_o therefore_o a_o deliverance_n thence_o do_v not_o exact_o conclude_v a_o local_a detention_n and_o inclusion_n there_o but_o a_o quit_v and_o dislolue_v of_o all_o the_o right_a interest_n and_o challenge_v that_o hell_n or_o satan_n have_v for_o sin_n unto_o the_o servant_n and_o member_n of_o christ_n whensoever_o they_o live_v or_o die_v only_o tertullian_n be_v opposite_a to_o they_o all_o who_o dream_v that_o the_o soul_n of_o all_o the_o faithful_a save_o martyr_n be_v keep_v in_o place_n under_o the_o earth_n which_o he_o call_v inferi_fw-la till_o the_o general_a resurrection_n wherein_o as_o in_o many_o other_o point_v deliver_v in_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr anima_fw-la he_o go_v a_o private_a way_n by_o himself_o without_o and_o against_o the_o main_a resolution_n of_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o father_n 17._o he_o do_v not_o montanize_v in_o this_o as_o you_o object_n but_o consent_v with_o irenaeus_n before_o and_o with_o other_o after_o he_o as_o shall_v appear_v who_o be_v no_o montanist_n your_o mistake_a irenaeus_n here_o as_o you_o do_v before_o little_o help_v your_o market_n and_o other_o when_o you_o bring_v they_o shall_v have_v a_o answer_n fit_v they_o in_o the_o mean_a while_n where_o you_o be_v so_o zealous_a to_o save_v tertullian_n from_o montanisme_n he_o must_v have_v a_o better_a proctor_n than_o you_o be_v to_o uphold_v his_o cause_n or_o else_o it_o will_v soon_o fall_v to_o the_o ground_n that_o none_o but_o martyr_n be_v in_o paradise_n and_o all_o other_o the_o faithful_a depart_v this_o life_n be_v in_o prison_n and_o place_n under_o the_o earth_n till_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n this_o be_v not_o only_o repugnant_a to_o the_o scripture_n and_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o father_n but_o a_o plain_a branch_n of_o montanus_n heresy_n which_o tertullian_n derive_v from_o no_o ground_n of_o holy_a scripture_n whence_o all_o truth_n must_v be_v fetch_v but_o from_o certain_a revelation_n &_o prophecy_n different_a from_o the_o scripture_n which_o montanus_n and_o other_o publish_v as_o make_v by_o the_o holy_a ghost_n after_o the_o write_n of_o the_o scripture_n and_o which_o tertullian_n in_o his_o write_n colour_v with_o the_o name_n and_o pretence_n of_o the_o para●…te_n call_v the_o true_a christian_n that_o refuse_v his_o new_a find_v doctrine_n psychicos_fw-la natural_a man_n and_o not_o lead_v by_o the_o latter_a direction_n of_o the_o spirit_n as_o montanus_n and_o other_o be_v who_o in_o exact_v chastity_n abstinence_n and_o martyrdom_n more_o strict_o than_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n do_v he_o follow_v and_o therefore_o not_o only_o his_o doctrine_n in_o this_o place_n allow_v paradise_n to_o none_o beside_o martyr_n but_o his_o allege_v montanus_n very_a word_n and_o pretend_v the_o paraclete_n for_o his_o conceit_n no_o where_o write_v in_o the_o scripture_n declare_v he_o express_o in_o this_o to_o be_v a_o montanist_n for_o plain_a proof_n whereof_o first_o tertullian_n speak_v of_o himself_o when_o he_o forsake_v the_o rest_n of_o the_o christian_n to_o cleave_v to_o the_o revelation_n of_o montanus_n and_o his_o adherent_n say_v 17._o et_fw-la nos_fw-la quidem_fw-la postea_fw-la agnitio_fw-la paracleti_fw-la atque_fw-la defensio_fw-la disiunxit_fw-la a_o psychicis_fw-la the_o agnise_n of_o the_o paraclet_n in_o the_o prophecy_n of_o montanus_n and_o defend_v thereof_o do_v afterward_o disjoin_v we_o from_o the_o carnal_a man_n so_o he_o term_v the_o church_n of_o christ_n for_o refuse_v the_o new_a prophecy_n of_o montanus_n as_o appear_v evident_o by_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr ieiunio_fw-la adversus_fw-la psyc●…cos_fw-la of_o fast_v against_o the_o car●…all_a man_n which_o saint_n jerom_n say_v be_v write_v 17._o specialiter_fw-la adversum_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la particular_o against_o the_o church_n where_o he_o likewise_o tax_v the_o christian_n for_o resist_v the_o paraclet_n or_o new_a prophecy_n of_o montanus_n cover_v they_o under_o the_o name_n of_o the_o paraclet_n and_o interpret_n the_o one_o by_o the_o other_o 17._o hiparaeleto_fw-it controver_n siam_fw-la faciunt_fw-la propter_fw-la hoc_fw-la novae_fw-la prophetiae_fw-la recusantur_fw-la non_fw-la quod_fw-la alium_fw-la deum_fw-la praedicent_fw-la montanus_n priscilla_n &_o maximilla_n sed_fw-la quod_fw-la plane_n doceant_fw-la saepius_fw-la ieiunare_fw-la quam_fw-la nubere_fw-la these_o ●…arnall_a man_n quarrel_v with_o the_o paraclet_n and_o therefore_o be_v the_o new_a prophecy_n refuse_v not_o that_o montanus_n priscilla_n &_o maximilla_n preach_v another_o god_n but_o that_o they_o plain_o teach_v often_o
to_o fast_v then_o to_o marry_v now_o for_o these_o very_a point_n that_o none_o be_v in_o paradise_n but_o only_a martur_n and_o that_o the_o soul_n even_o of_o the_o patriarch_n and_o prophet_n and_o all_o other_o godly_a christian_n be_v apud_fw-la inferos_fw-la in_o place_n under_o the_o earth_n and_o so_o shall_v be_v till_o the_o fullness_n of_o the_o resurrection_n tertullian_n urge_v in_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr anima_fw-la and_o in_o this_o chapter_n the_o authority_n of_o his_o paraclet_n which_o be_v the_o founder_n of_o montanus_n new_a prophecy_n 55._o agnosce_fw-la differentiam_fw-la ethnici_fw-la &_o fidelis_fw-la in_o morte_fw-la si_fw-la pro_fw-la deo_fw-la occumbas_fw-la ut_fw-la p●…racletus_fw-la mo●…et_fw-la non_fw-la in_o mollibus_fw-la febribus_fw-la &_o in_fw-la lectulis_fw-la sed_fw-la in_o a_o acknowledge_v the_o difference_n of_o a_o ethnic_n and_o a_o believer_n even_o in_o their_o death_n if_o thou_o die_v for_o god_n cause_n as_o the_o paraclet_n warn_v not_o in_o casie_a ague_n and_o soft_a bed_n but_o in_o martyrdom_n and_o that_o these_o be_v the_o very_a word_n of_o montanus_n new_a pprophecy_n may_v easy_o be_v perceive_v by_o tertullian_n himself_o who_o write_v against_o all_o flight_n in_o persecution_n which_o book_n be_v tertulliano_n special_o write_v against_o the_o church_n by_o jeroms_n own_o confession_n cit_v they_o as_o the_o word_n of_o the_o spirit_n to_o wit_n in_o the_o new_a prophecy_n of_o montanus_n persecutione_n spiritum_fw-la si_fw-la consulas_fw-la &c_n &c_n omnes_fw-la pene_fw-la ad_fw-la martyriuns_fw-la exhortatur_fw-la non_fw-la ad_fw-la fugam_fw-la ut_fw-la &_o illius_fw-la commem●…ur_fw-la publicaris_fw-la inquit_fw-la ●…onum_fw-la libi_fw-la est_fw-la qui_fw-la enim_fw-la non_fw-la publicatur_fw-la in_o hominibus_fw-la publicatur_fw-la in_o domino_fw-la sic_fw-la &_o a●…bi_fw-la nolite_fw-la in_o lectulis_fw-la &_o febribus_fw-la m●…llibus_fw-la optare_fw-la exire_fw-la sed_fw-la in_o martyrijs_fw-la if_o thou_o take_v counsel_n of_o the_o spirit_n he_o exhort_v all_o very_o near_o to_o martyrdom_n not_o to_o flight_n as_o to_o remember_v you_o of_o that_o speech_n be_v thou_o make_v a_o public_a example_n say_v he_o it_o be_v good_a for_o thou_o he_o that_o be_v not_o make_v a_o public_a ●…xample_n amgonst_a man_n shall_v be_v make_v one_o with_o god_n and_o so_o in_o another_o place_n desire_v not_o to_o depart_v this_o life_n in_o bed_n &_o easy_a ague_n but_o in_o martyrdom_n these_o word_n tertullian_n allege_v as_o evident_o write_v by_o the_o spirit_n which_o since_o they_o be_v no_o where_o find_v in_o any_o part_n of_o the_o new_a or_o old_a testament_n &_o disagree_v both_o in_o word_n &_o matter_n from_o the_o stile_n &_o truth_n of_o the_o sacred_a scripture_n they_o savour_v of_o another_o spirit_n &_o must_v of_o force_n be_v refer_v to_o the_o prophecy_n of_o montanus_n who_o in_o this_o very_a point_n be_v condemn_v by_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n against_o which_o as_o jerom_n avouch_v tertuilian_a write_v this_o book_n in_o favour_n of_o montanus_n heresy_n and_o so_o much_o also_o that_o learned_a observer_n rhenanus_fw-la affirm_v upon_o this_o place_n 9_o verba_fw-la sunt_fw-la prophetiae_fw-la paracleti_fw-la montanici_fw-la these_o be_v the_o word_n of_o the_o pprophecy_n of_o montanus_n spirit_n your_o friend_n therefore_o who_o lend_v you_o their_o pain_n be_v not_o well_o advise_v in_o excuse_v tertullian_n in_o this_o matter_n from_o montanisme_n since_o not_o only_o the_o error_n of_o montanus_n be_v here_o defend_v but_o the_o very_a word_n of_o his_o new_a revelation_n be_v here_o allege_v 23._o also_o in_o that_o objection_n of_o certain_a heretic_n who_o he_o confute_v not_o the_o true_a christian_n as_o you_o misconceive_v they_o argue_v thus_o as_o you_o do_v in_o hoc_fw-la christus_fw-la inferos_fw-la adijt_fw-la ne_fw-la nos_fw-la adiremus_fw-la christ_n therefore_o go_v to_o hell_n to_o the_o end_n we_o shall_v never_o come_v there_o he_o answer_v they_o that_o it_o be_v false_a that_o christ_n go_v to_o inferos_fw-la in_o that_o sense_n that_o be_v to_o hell_n for_o than_o what_o difference_n be_v there_o between_o the_o wicked_a heathen_a and_o the_o godly_a christian_n if_o one_o and_o the_o same_o prison_n after_o death_n be_v for_o they_o both_o take_n it_o for_o a_o thing_n general_o grant_v in_o the_o church_n that_o it_o be_v a_o wicked_a and_o heretical_a thing_n to_o think_v he_o go_v where_o the_o damn_a be_v that_o be_v into_o hell_n ignorance_n make_v you_o not_o only_o blind_a and_o bold_a but_o presumptuous_a and_o saucy_a to_o acquit_v from_o heresy_n and_o condemn_v for_o heresy_n who_o please_v you_o and_o therefore_o i_o must_v not_o think_v it_o strange_a to_o be_v challenge_v by_o you_o for_o a_o wicked_a and_o heretical_a opinion_n since_o you_o gross_o belie_v the_o whole_a church_n of_o christ_n and_o dip_v they_o in_o the_o same_o vate_fw-la of_o wicked_a and_o heretical_a thing_n with_o i_o you_o wilful_o wrest_v and_o misconstrue_v tertullia_n word_n smooth_v he_o in_o a_o manifest_a error_n against_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o christ_n and_o roll_v they_o up_o with_o wicked_a heresy_n that_o be_v the_o great_a light_n of_o christian_a religion_n next_o after_o the_o apostle_n tertullia_n resolution_n in_o this_o very_a chapter_n be_v plain_a enough_o to_o he_o that_o be_v not_o more_o then_o blind_a 55._o habes_fw-la de_fw-la paradiso_n anobie_n libellum_fw-la quo_fw-la constituimus_fw-la omnem_fw-la animam_fw-la apud_fw-la inferos_fw-la sequestrari_fw-la in_o diem_fw-la domini_fw-la thou_o have_v a_o book_n of_o we_o write_v touch_v paradise_n wherein_o we_o determine_v all_o soul_n to_o be_v keep_v sequester_v apud_fw-la inferos_fw-la in_o infernal_a place_n till_o the_o day_n of_o the_o lord_n and_o in_o the_o sentence_n next_o before_o that_o which_o you_o cite_v he_o say_v with_o like_a confidence_n 55._o habes_fw-la &_o regionem_fw-la inferûm_fw-la 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