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A71096	The verity of Christian faith written by Hierome Savanorola [sic] of Ferrara.; Triumphus crucis Liber 2. English	Savonarola, Girolamo, 1452-1498.	1651 (1651)	Wing S781; ESTC R6206	184,563	686

whom all things are subject For unless there were some Angells which conversed both with the dead and the living our Lord Jesus would not have sayd it came to pass that the beggar dyed and was carryed of the Angels into Abrahams bosome Therefore they could be now here now there seeing as God would have it they were used to carry him from hence unto the place of his rest The souls of the dead also may know some things by divine Revelation either of such things as be necessary for them to know or at least not necessary to be unknown and this not only of things past or present but of those also which are to come even as in times past not all men in generall were made acquainted with the Secrets of God but only Prophets and such other holy men while they lived and they not every one of them knowing all things but every one some according as the Divine Providence was pleased to reveale And that some of the dead also may be sent unto the living the Scripture it self doth testifie as contrarily S. Paul from among the Living was rapt up into Paradise for so we read the Prophet Samuel after he was dead appeared unto King Saul yet living and foretold him things to come 'T is true there are some that say it was not Samuel himself that appeared who could not they think have been so feecht up with magicall charmes but rather some evill Spirit ready and apt for such business borrowed his shape But the book we call Ecclesiasticus written as 't is commonly said by Jesus the Son of Sirach but for resemblance of stile and eloquence not unlike to be Solomons own work in the praises of holy men sayes of Samuel that being dead he Prophecyed But if again you extenuate the authority of this book with the Jewes because they say it is not in their Canon yet at least concerning Moyses no doubt can be made Deut. 34.5 but that in Deuteronomy he is related to be both dead and buryed and yet in the Gospell to have appeared unto the living togither with Elias who as yet is not dead CHAP. XVI HEnce also we answer an other question viz what may be said of the Martyrs who by the favours which are granted unto such as pray unto them do declare themselves both to understand and to have care of our affairs 7 favours obteined by prayer to Saints if the dead know not at all what the living do for 't is certain and we know it by report of witnesses beyond exception that when the City of Nola was besiedged by the Barbarians the Blessed Confessour Felix Saints appear miraculously sometimes when invocated not onely by the effects of his particular favours but even personally and in plain view did appear unto many good people inhabiting that City whom he had formerly dearly loved But it must be said that such things as those happen miraculously and are farre different from the usuall course which God hath appointed unto the nature of all sorts of things For because our Lord turned once water into wine we must not therfore forget what the nature of water is and what its proper virtue in the order of elements is not because Lazarus rose again from death that therefore every man that dyeth may rise again when he will or that a dead man is raised by no greater power then another is awakened out of sleep For to speak according to the limits and condition of mans nature in it self is one thing and to speak according as God is pleased to demonstrate his divine power in it is another and the things which come to passe naturally and as it were by constant course are of one sort and those which are done miraculously by God are of an other yet is God alwayes assistant unto nature without whom it could not be and in miracles themselves nature is not absolutely excluded because at least in her though not by her they are wrought We must not therefore imagine that the dead do ordinarily and of course mix themselves in the affairs of the living because the Martyrs do somtimes shew themselves present How miracles are wrought by praying to Saints for the curing or help of some particular persons But rather we are to know it is by divine power of priviledge dispensation that the Martyrs themselves are present with us at any time because the dead generally by any vertue of their own nature cannot be so Although I confesse to determine in what particular manner the Martyrs do help them Here he inquires the maner how miracles are obteined by praying to Saints who for certain are helped by the Martyrs is a mater farre above my capacity that is to say whither the Martyrs be present in their own persons at the same time in so divers and farre distant places as their Memories are or that they otherwise happen to shew themselves or whither that God Almighty the Martyrs abiding alwayes in that place which is appointed for their merits farre remote from the conversation of men yet praying generally for the necessities of those who pray unto them in the same manner as we pray for the dead to whom we are never present nor know where they be or what they do or I say whither that God Almighty himself who is every where present though not as joyned to us nor as divided from us hearing the prayers which the Martyrs make doth by the ministery of Angels which he sends abroad into all places exhibite such comforts unto people against the miseries of this life as he seeth to be most expedient who by his wonderfull power and goodnesse giveth testimony unto the merits of his Martyrs both where Merits of the Martyrs acknowledged by S. Austin and when and how he pleaseth but chiefly at their memories as knowing this in his divine wisdome The Memory and mediation of Saints expedient for confirmation of faith to be most expedient for the Confirmation and Exaltation of the Faith of Christ for which the Martyrs suffered This I say is a thing much higher then I can reach unto more abstruse and difficult then I can search out and therfore which of the two it be or whither perhaps both of thē may not be true viz. that sometimes by the very presence of the Martyrs themselves and sometimes again by Angels personating the Martyrs these things may be done I dare not determine I desire rather to learn such things of those who know them For some there are surely who do know them as there be some others also perhaps who think they do but do not For doubtlesse such things as these are the Free Guifts of God who liberally bestoweth them as he pleaseth some to one some to another according to that of the Apostle saying The manifestation of the spirit is given to every one for their profit 1 Cor. 12.7 c. To one saith he is

Five Treatises viz. THE GOLDEN TREATISE OF THE Antient and Learned Father Vincentius Lirinensis THE VERITIE OF CHRISTIAN FAITH THE FELICITIE OF A CHRISTIAN LIFE Written by Hierome Savonarola THE PROFIT OF BELIEVING By Saint Augustine S. AVGVSTIN'S BOOK DE Cura pro Mortuis * ⁎ * PRINTED Anno Dom. MDCLI THE GOLDEN TREATISE OF THE Antient and Learned Father Vincentius Lirinensis Written about twelve hundred years since FOR The Antiquity and Universality of the Catholick Religion against the profane Novelties of all Heresies Translated into English by A. P. Very profitable for all such as desire in these dangerous times to embrace the true Gospel of Jesus Christ and to remain free from all infection of false doctrine as in the Preface more at large is declared * ⁎ * Printed Anno Dom. 1651. TO THE CHRISTIAN Reader zealous of Truth and desirous of Salvation A. P. wisheth the knowledge of the one in this life and the fruition of the other in the life to come I PRESENT thee here gentle Reader the ancient Father Vincentius Lirinensis Native indeed of France but clothed in an English habit a Book though little yet learned no lesse profitable then pleasant of smal volume if thou respect the quantity but of rare price if thou consider the quality The Discourse is not of gathering and scraping together the pelf of this world which choaketh the heavenly seed of Gods word and putteth man in a dangerous state if we credit him who being rich for our sake became poor Mat 13.22 and 19.24 it disputeth not of attire nor of the art of pampering this corruptible carcase which brought that gay belli-god of whom we read in the Gospell Luc. 16. to the furious flames and endlesse torments of Hell fire it prosecuteth not wicked and wanton discourses which corrupt good manners being in very deed the bellowes to kindle the coles of carnality the nources of unchaste thoughts and the very bait with which the Devil doth daily angle and catch the unfortunate souls of men But it handleth that which redoundeth to the benefit of our soul created to the image of God and sheweth us the way how we may so govern this frail vessel of ours in the tempestuous Sea of this wicked world that at last we may safely arrive at the port and barbour of Celestiall happinesse For if the first step to heaven be to believe aright and the foundation and ground of all salvation be faith as I think no man can doubt that believeth that there is any God or truth at all then cannot this golden Treatise but be acceptable to all such as love Jesus Christ and tender the salvation of their souls being as it were the heavenly pillar of fire that may guide us through the desert of this world unto the land of promise Exod. 13. and that glittering star to lead us unto the new born King of the Jews and Saviour of mankind Mat. 2. But to the end that thou mayst more plainly and particularly view the excellency and great necessity of this rare book and as it were with Moses from the top of Mount Nebo contemplate the land of Canaan flowing with Milk and Honey Deut. 34. I will briefly set down such motives as invited me to the labour of translating it for the self same as I verily think cannot but in flame thee to the diligent reading of it also Three principall reasons then especially moved me The first was because it is very ancient being written above eleven hundred years past for it was composed three years after the generall Councell of Ephesus as appeareth in the conclusion of the book And as the Authour himself is of great antiquity so is his doctrine more antient being the self same which flourished in his time and came from the Apostles of Christ which thing as it was never of any good man doubted of so it is also most apparent First by sound reason grounded in Gods word because when any man writeth ought concerning faith and religion and the same is not controld of any of that time it is an evident argument that it was consonant to the doctrine then generally taught and received otherwise those Prestours and Doctours which God as S. Paul saith hath given that we he not little ones wavering and carried about with every blast of doctrine Ephes 4. could never have held their peace but would as the Prophet admonisheth Have cried out exalted their voice like a trumpet Esa 58. as we find in like case the licentious Nicholai●s noted by S. Jo●● for their false doctrine Apoc. 2. Himoneus and Philetus reproved by S. PAVL for an errour about the resurrection 2. Tim. 2. Secondly because the authour himself doth not only confesse the same in serting down the answer of many excellent holy and learned men which lived in his daies not only because he acknowledgeth that what he hath here written he received it from his ancestours and forefathers both which he doth is the very first entrance and generally throughout the whole book but especially for that towards the later end he so highly commendeth the generall Councell of Ephesus that is the Parliament of the world which surely he never wold have done had he not joyned with them in opinion concerning faith and religion and what their opinion was himself recordeth for he saith that those Fathers inspired by God decreed that nothing was to be beleeved but that which the sacred antiquity of out forefathers agreeing together is Christ had holden and believed Which surely is a notable argument that what faith was by Christ planted and his Disciples preached was by them carefully kept and maintained which thing is especially of us English-men to be noted because the first four Generall Councells amongst which this of Ephesus is one and the third in order are worthily allowed by act of Parliament Anno 1. Eliz. Wherefore moved with such reasons we may without all scruple or doubt not onely read this book but also embrace and entertain it as the common doctrine of that time as the religion practised and reverenced in the primitive Church as the faith and belief of the Ephesine Councell so consequently as the true doctrine of Jesus Christ Now then seeing we live in those daies in which so many new sects and doctrines such strange and monstrous opinions such superstitious and new-fangled devises flie up down the world seeing we are fallen into the later times in which Men shall heap up to themselves masters according to their own desires and shall not indure sound doctrine but avert their ears from truth and be converted to fables 2 Tim. 4. In which they shall love pleasures more then God have a shew of godlinesse but yet denying the vertue therof 2 Tim. 3. In which many scoffers shal come walking according to their own desires whodevide themselves sensuall not having the spirit In which many false Christs many false Prophets shal arise seduct many