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A91309 Truth triumphing over falshood, antiquity over novelty. Or, The first part of a just and seasonable vindication of the undoubted ecclesiasticall iurisdiction, right, legislative, coercive power of Christian emperors, kings, magistrates, parliaments, in all matters of religion, church-government, discipline, ceremonies, manners: summoning of, presiding, moderating in councells, synods; and ratifying their canons, determinations, decrees: as likewise of lay-mens right both to sit and vote in councells; ... In refutation of Mr. Iohn Goodwins Innocencies Triumph: my deare brother Burtons Vindication of churches, commonly called Independent: and of all anti-monarchicall, anti-Parliamentall, anti-synodicall, and anarchicall paradoxes of papists, prelates, Anabaptists, Arminians, Socinians, Brownists, or Independents: whose old and new objections to the contrary, are here fully answered. / By William Prynne, of Lincolnes Inne, Esquire. Prynne, William, 1600-1669. 1645 (1645) Wing P4115; Thomason E259_1; ESTC R212479 202,789 171

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the Assembly not by any particular man or men in a private way when either House shall require it All things agreed 〈◊〉 and prepared for the Parliament to be openly read and allowed in the Assembly if the major part assent Provided that the opinion of any persons dissenting and the reasons urged for it be annexed thereunto if the Dissenters require it Together with Solutions if any were given in the Assembly to these Reasons Jo Browne Cler. Parliamentorum Having thus sufficiently evidenced the authority and jurisdiction of Parliaments in matters of Religion and Church affaires by these numerous punctuall irrefragable Presidents in all Ages give me leave to add these two considerations to them to demonstrate this their undoubted right and priviledge beyond all contradiction and silence every adverse tongue Pen of all Papists Anabaptists Brownists Separatists or Independents whatsoever First that all our ancient and moderne Writs for summoning a Parliament have ever had this speciall clause in them Pro quibusdam ardnis ungentibus negotiis Nos statum defensionem Regni Angliae ECCLESIAE ANGLICANAE concernentibus qu●ddam Parliamentum c. teneri ordinavaimus From whence it is most apparent That the state and defence of the Church of England and well ordering of the same is one Principall end of summoning Parliaments and one maine part of the subject matters of our Parliaments as Sir Edward Cooke resolves 2ly That all every of the pre●ended opposites to Parliaments Ecclesiasticall jurisdiction hand formely and none especially in the present Parliament addressed severall Petitions to this High and Honorable Court for Reformation of the Church suppression of haeresies Errors Idolatry Popery Superstition Schismes Prela●y and establishing Gods true worship Religion Ordinances Discipline as to the most proper Iudicature Tribunall Lawgiver in our Church which they could resort unto and not to the Convocation or any other Assembly of Clergy-men alone or Independent Congregation To give you some few remarkable instances besides those formerly remembred instead of infinite others which I pretermit for brevity Our famous English Apostle Iohn Wickelesse as he professedly maintained in K. Richard the second his Raigne That any Clergy-man yea the Pope himselfe might lawfully be reprehended accused and corrected by Lay-men That the temporall Lords and Princes might lawfully and meritoriously take the possessions and Revenues from the Church and from Ecclesiasticall persons offending habitually c. to the end they might reforme them And that they were obliged to reforme the Church and Prelates under paine of being traitours to Iesus Christ So likewise in the fifth year of this King he Writ and sent to the Lords and great men assembled at London IN PARLIAMENT seven Propositions tending to the abolishing of the Popes usurped power and exactions to selfe the temporalities of Deli●●●ent Bishops to remove Bishops and Clergy-men from all secular imployments 〈◊〉 reforme the abuses of Excommunications and imprisonments upon them to 〈◊〉 Transubstantiation and reforme the Churches both to 〈…〉 the particulars whereof you may read at large in 〈◊〉 And 〈◊〉 long after his learned Disciple William 〈◊〉 a Marty● being unjustly condemned by the Bishop of Hereford for maintaining Wickliffes opinions appealed to the King and Parliament against it and withall writ a pious Letter to the Parliament recorded by Master Fox which concludes thus Deare worshipfull Sirs in this world Theseech you for Christs love as ye yet 〈◊〉 loven Gods Law and Truth that in these dayes is greatly borne abacke that they wollen vouchsafe these things that I send you written to Gods worship to let them be shewed IN THE PARLIAMENT as your wits can best conceive to most worship to our God and to shewing of the truth AND AMENDING OF HOLY CHVRCH My conc●usions and mine● appeale and other true matters of Gods Law if any can finde in them error falsenesse or default privet by the Law of Christ clearly to christian mens knowledge I shall revoke my wrong conceit by Gods law be amended more ready to hold with Gods law openly and privily with Gods grace and nothing to hold teach or maintain that is contrary to his Law By which he made that very Parliament Iudges of his Doctrine had reformers of the Church though for the most part Papists in those dayes On the contrary side the very Papists Prelates Clergy and Convocation in those times did likewise Petition the King and Parliament for suppression of haereticall opinions Preachers Bookes Schooles Conventi●les and the punishment and restraint of hereticks sectaries haereticall preachers and Schoolmasters as they deemed them and upon their prayer and importunity the Statutes of 5. R. 2 〈…〉 5. ●2 H. 4. c. 15. ● H. 5. c. 7. to which the Commons never consented were made and 〈◊〉 to that purpose as is evident by the very words of the Acts themselves Master Fox his Acts and Monuments vol. 1. Edi● 〈◊〉 p. 773. And it is as evident that the Popish Commons Petition was the cause of the Statute of 25 H. 8. c. 14. For the punishment of heresie and the Popish Clergyes importunity to King Henry the eight his motion to the Parliament the occasion of the bloudy Statue of 31 H. 8. c. 14. 34. H. c. 8. 1. as the words of the Acts and Master Fox demonstrate both King and Clergy Nobles and Commons even in these times of Popery deeming our parliaments the meetest Iudges and only lawgivers for ordering Church affaires and matters of Religion About the 37. yeare of King Henry the 〈◊〉 Roderick Morse once a Grey 〈◊〉 published a book in print 〈◊〉 A complaint to the Parliament house of England directed to the Parliament wherein he demonstrates many abuses and corruptions of the Church and Clergy of England in those dayes both in matter of Doctrine Worship Discipline manners which he earnestly presseth petitioneth the Parliament effectually to reforme by wholsome Lawes and Edicts as a thing most properly belonging to their place and Iurisdiction as the whole booke manifests which had been very absurd had the Parliament been no meer Iudge of Religion and Church affaires and no 〈◊〉 Reformers of these abuses by Lawes and punishments as some now repute them In King Edward the sixt Queene Maries and Queene Elizabeths severall Raignes the Clergie and 〈◊〉 made their Petitions and addresses to the Parliament for setling reforming establishing all matters of Religion Church-government and discipline as the forementioned Statutes with multitudes of Petitions and bookes printed and dedicated to the Parliaments in their severall Raigns demonstrate especially 1. and 2. Phili. and Mary c. 6. 8. 1 Eliz. c. 1. 2. 4. 8. Eliz. c. 1. Two admonitions to the Parliament Anno. 1572. Iohn Penry his supplication to the Parliament and others The Petitions to all the severall Parliaments in King Iames his Raigne and our present Soveraignes but more especially to this present Parliament from all sorts of people in every County of the Realme
in this point let him consult William Ranchin his Review of the Councell of Trent who is copious and zealous in this point though a Papist Bishop Jewels Defence of the Apologie part 6. cap. 12. 13 14. 15. and the ensuing Sections But to returne to the point proposed As in the forecited Councels abroad so in our Councels Synods and Convocations at home as our Kings and their Nobles were usually present and president as I shall shew hereafter so the Prelates could debate propound and conclude nothing without their privity and licence Hence Eadmerus records of King William the Conquerour that all divine and humane things did expect his approbation for he would not suffer any man living within any of his Dominions to receive the Bishop of Rome as Apostolicall unlesse he commanded him nor yet to accept his Letters upon any termes if they had not been first shewed to him Yea he did not suffer the Primate of his Kingdome to wit the Arch-bishop of Canterbury or Dover if he sate President in a generall Councell of Bishops gathered together to decree or prohibit any thing but those things which were sutable to his will and had been first ordained by himselfe William Rufus his sonne tooke the same jurisdiction on him and challenged it as part of his Prerogative Royall For when as Anselme Arch-bishop of Canterbury moved him to command if he pleased Councels to be renued according to the ancient use because there had not been a generall Councell of Bishops in England since his comming to the Crowne not in many yeares before he gave him this reply When I shall thinke fit I will do something concerning these things not at thine but my owne pleasure But of this I shall thinke some other time and adds by way of scoffe but thou whence speakest thou in a Councell After this the King demanded of him from what Pope he would receive his Pall he answered from Urbane which the King hearing replyed That he had not yet taken him for Apostolicall neither had it been the Custome in his or his Fathers time that any one should name a Pope in the Kingdome of England without or besides his license or election and whosoever would wrest from him the power of this dignity should do all one as if he had endeavoured to take his Crown from him If therefore thou recivest the same Vrban or aeny other for Pope in my Kingdome or holdest him being received thou doest against the faith and allegiance which thou owest to me neither dost thou offend mee lesse in this than if thou shouldest endeavour to take my Crown from me Wherefore know that thou shalt have no share or portion in my Kingdome if I shall not see thee by open assertions to deny all subjection and obedience to Vrban at my desire Which he refusing to doe the Bishops and Noblemen sent to him from the King told him Tha● the whole Kingdome complained against him that he endeavoured to take away from their common Lord the dignity of his Empire and his Crowne For whosoever deprives him of the customes of his Royall dignity takes away his Crown and Kingdome together with it for one cannot be decently enjoyed without the other So little power had the Pope or Prelates here in England in those times Anno 1234. there was a Councell held at Glocester to which the King sent this Mandate Mandatum est omnibus Episcopis qui conventuri sunt apud Gloucestriam die Sabbati in chrastino Sanctae Catharinae firmiter inhibendo quod sicut Baronias sua quas do lege tenent diligunt nullo modo praesumant Concilium tenere de aliquibus quae ad coronam Regis pertinent vel quae personam Regis vel statum suum vel statum Concilii sui contingunt scituri pro certò quod si fecerint Rex inde se capiet ad Baronias suas Teste Rege apud Hereford 23. Novembris c. Anno 1237. in the Councel held at London under Otho the Popes Legate the King sent the Earle of Lincolne with others to the Legate sitting in Councell with an Inhibition in the Kings name to determine of nothing against the Crowne and Dignity Ut dicto Legato writes Matthew Paris ex parte Regis Regni inhiberent ne ibi contra Regiam coronam dignitatem aliquid statuere attemptaret and William de Reel one of the Messengers remained in the Convocation house to see this Inhibition observed clothed in a Canonicall Cap and Surplis the others departing thence So in 26. Hen. 3. rot 21. 9. E. 1. rot 2. 11. E. 2. rot 10 18. E. 3. rot 21. in the Tower and in many other Records I finde a generall Prohibition usually directed to the Convocation the Prelates and Clergie therein such loyall subjects usually were they Ne quid attemptarent contra jus Regium Ne quid statuant contra Regem in Concilio suo Ne aliquid tentetur contra Coronam Regis in congregan●ione Cleri c. the King confining them of what to treat and conclude of what not to entermeddle without his speciall license Not to mention That our Kings have frequently prescribed the Convocation what Subsidies they should grant and how they have handled them in case they refused to grant them The Statute of 25. H. 8. c. 19. Records ` That the Clergie of the Realm of England submitting themselves to the Kings Majesty then promised in verbo Sacerdotii that they would never from thenceforth presume to attempt alleadge claime or put in ure or enact promulge or execute any new Canons Constitutions Ordinance provinciall or other by whatsoever other name they shall be called in the Convocation unlesse the Kings most Royall assent and Licence may to them he had to make promulge and execute the same and that His Majesty doe give His most Royall assent and authority in that behalfe And thereupon enacts according to the sayd submission and petition of the Clergie that they assembled together in Convocation ne any of them to wit in their severall Visitations Synods Constitutions Chapters from henceforth Shall presume to alleadge claime or put in ure any Constitutions or Ordinances provinciall or Synodals or any other Canons nor shall Enact Promulge or execute any such Canons Constitutions or Ordinance provinciall by what name or names they may be called in Convocation for time to come unlesse the sayd Clergy may have the Kings most Royall assent and licence to make promulge and execute such Canons Constitutions and Ordinances provinciall or Synodall upon pain of every one of the said Clergy doing the contrary to this being thereof Convict to suffer imprisonment and make fine at the Kings will Hence the whole Clergy of England in their Booke entituled The Institution of a Christian man dedicated to K. Henry the eight Anno 1543. subscribed with all their names in a Convocation Chapter of Orders acknowledge this sovereign jurisdiction of the Prince
and of absolute authority within it self subject to no other Jurisdiction then that of Christ his Word and Spirit and not to any other particular Congregation Synod or Nationall Church or humane power whatsoever Therefore the Parliament and Assembly can make no Canons nor Rules to binde it nor presc●ibe any Church-government or Discipline to it Brother this is the summe of your whole Book and it grieves me to see so many strange Parodoxes piled up together to support an Independent Fabrick by one of your yeares and Iudgement Give me leave therefore to discover your manifold over-sights in this particular by such demonstrations as you shall not be able to gain say First then I say that the whole Church of Christ is but one intire Mysticall Body whereof Christ is the supreame Spirituall Head and Governour and all particular Churches only members of this intire Body as the head hand feet are members of the Naturall Body not absolute bodies of themselves as every house or Parish in a City is a member of the whol City Every Company or Regiment in an Army a member of that Realme not absolute bodies Cities Armies Kingdomes of themselves That this is truth we have sundry expresse Resolutions of Scripture in positive tearms as the 1 Cor. 12. 12 13 14. 26. 27. and in truth the whole Chapter Ephes ● 22 23. c. 2. 14. 15. to the end c. 4. 11. to 17. c. 5. 23. to 33. Col. 1. 18. 24. c. 2. 17. 19. which you may peruse at leisure Ephes 4. 3. to 7. Endeavouring to keepe the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace For there is ONE BODY one Spirit one Lord one Faith one Baptisme One God and Father of all who is above all and through all and in all And John 17. 20. 21. 23. Neither pray I for these alone but for them also which shall believe on me through their word THAT THEY ALL MAY BE ONE as thou father art one and I am in thee that they also MAY BE ONE IN US and may be made perfect IN ONE Hence the Scripture usually expresseth the whol Catholike Church of Christ which allages hitherto have believed to be but one so far as to make it an Article of their Creed under singular titles as the Church A WOMAN MY LOVE MY DOVE my Sister my Spouse a Garden a Vineyard a City a Congregation an Assembly Sion Jerusalem an House a Flocke a Body and the like to note it unity that it is but ONE intire spirituall Corporation though distributed into severall particular Congregations scattered ●ver the face of the whole World This being an indubitable verity strikes off the head of your Galiah and subverts the very foundation of Independent Congregations which would be absolute and compleat spirituall Bodies within themselves and no members of a Catholike or Nationall Church Secondly If all the particular Churches in the World bee in reality but one intire Body and Church of Christ then by the self-same reason likewise all the particular Congregations within one Nation Kingdome Republike united in one civill Corporation under one Head and temporall government are but one and the selfe-same Church and members one of another not absolute Independent Congregations of themselves subordinate to no other even as all the particular persons in a House make up but one Family all the particular Houses Parishes in a City but one City all the severall Cities Counties in a Kingdome one Realme and all the Nations on the earth but one world of men These cleare principles of Divinity Policy Nature experience none can or may deny unlesse he hath lost his sences or means to subvert all humane Relations and Societies And my Brother acknowledging the whole Nation of the Jewes to be but one intire Nationall Church though divided into sundry Synagogues and particular Congregations as is evident by Acts 15. 24. FOR MOSES OF OLD TIME hath IN EVERY CITY them that Preach him being read in THE SYNAGOGVES EVERY SABBATH DAY compared with Psa 74. 8. Matth. 6. 2. 5. c. 7. 1. 8. c. 9. 35. c. 23. 34. Mark 1. 21. 23. 29. 39 c. 3. 1. n. 5. 22. Luke 4. 15. to 44. c. 13. 10. c. 21. 12. John 6. 59. c. 9. 22. c. 18. 20. c. 10. 2 Acts 9. 2. 20. c. 13. 5. 14. 42. c. 14. 1. c. 17. 1. 10. c. 18. 4. 7. 13. 26. c. 19. 8. c. 22. 12. must of necessity subscribe to this conclusion issuing naturally from it that all particular Congregations in any one Christian Realm Nation Republike are but one intire Church though divided into severall squadrons for necessity and conveniency as one house is into many Roomes one City into many Streets Parishes companies wards one Kingdome into divers Counties Provinces One Parliament into severall Houses Sub-Committees as there is occasion one Armie into severall Regiments Brigades Companies Troopes Thirdly It is at clear as Noonday That in all Civill or Ecclesiasticall Corporations Congregations or Societies of men united into one common Politique Body the whol body or greater part hath by the Law of God Nature Nations a lawful inherent jurisdiction over every particular member or lesser part to make Laws and common Rules to obliege them for the safety peace benefit of the whol Body In all Parliaments Councels of State or War Cities Corporations Societies Courts of Iustice Chapters Committees yea in all elections of Magistrates Ministers Knights or Burgesses of Parliament Majors of Cities Masters Wardens of Companies heads or fellows of Colledges Church-wardens and the like the whol Body or major voyce bindes the lesser number all the whol body ever over-rules the parts And it must needs be so els there could be no Rule Order Government in any of them if one member only or the lesser part should over-rule and prescribe Lawes unto the whole or greater part not they to them The like rule holds firme and hath ever taken place 〈…〉 ●●mall generall Nation Provinciall Parochiall or Congregation 〈…〉 Synods Convocations Assemblies or meetings in all matters of 〈…〉 Discipline Government Lawes Rules Edicts Censure Descition 〈…〉 Yea in Independent Churches themselves the Votes Orders 〈◊〉 determinations of the whole or major part of the Congregation binde all the other dissenting as well as consenting members neither will any Independent Congregation admit of any into their new society but such who shall first submit to the Covenant Orders Government Rules and Discipline that Congregation or the major part thereof hath elected established Fourthly It is a principle of the Law of Nature and common Reason which all Republikes Churches Societies of men in every age till this present have admitted that the Lawes Ordinances Decrees of the greatest Civill or Ecclesiasticall Assemblies where the whole Realme Republike Church or Nation are personally or representatively present by their deputies or Proxies obliege all inferiour Corporations Societies Churches Congregations Persons within their