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A85313 Presbyterial ordination vindicated. In a brief and sober discourse concerning episcopacy, as claiming greater power, and more eminent offices by divine right, then presbyterie. The arguments of the Reverend Bishop Dr Davenant in his determination for such episcopacy are modestly examined. And arguments for the validity of presbyterial ordination added. With a brief discourse concerning imposed forms of prayer, and ceremonies. Written by G.F. minister of the gospel in defence of his own ordination, being questioned, because it was performed by Presbyters. Firmin, Giles, 1614-1697. 1660 (1660) Wing F961; Thomason E1045_17; ESTC R208016 42,577 55

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Presbyterial Ordination VINDICATED In a Brief and Sober DISCOURSE CONCERNING EPISCOPACY As claiming greater Power and more eminent Offices by DIVINE RIGHT then Presbyterie The Arguments of the Reverend Bishop Dr Davenant in his Determination for such EPISCOPACY are modestly Examined And Arguments for the Validity of Presbyterial Ordination added With a brief DISCOURSE concerning Imposed Forms of Prayer and CEREMONIES Written by G.F. Minister of the Gospel in Defence of his own Ordination being questioned because it was performed by PRESBYTERS Isa 8.20 To the Law and to the Testimony If they speak not according to this word it is because there is no light in them Patrum scriptanon sunt regulae nee habent auctotitatem obligandi Bell. de Conc. l. ● c. 12. Is it so horrible an heresie as he Harding makes it to say that by the Scriptures of God a Bishop and a Priest are all one All these S. Chrysostom S. Hierom S. Augustine S. Ambrose and other more holy Fathers together with S. Paul the Apostle for thus saying by Mr. Hardings advice must be holden for Hereticks Bishop Jewell Defen Apol. p. 202. London Printed for Nathanael Webb at the Kings head in S. Pauls Church yard 1660. THE PREFACE THE waies of the Lord towards our KING in his Affliction Preservation and Restauration were such as upon them all we may write wonderfull Prayers were poured out for him in his Affliction and for his Restauration Praises were not silent Prayers I say were poured out from sympathising and enlarged hearts they were not read out of a book his Affliction was not common no wonder though a prayer sutable could not be found in a Common-prayer Book But had there been a Prayer in the Book answerable to his Condition we could not have been content with that our hearts had not room to work had we been straitened by a Form yet a Form of Prayer when agreeable to Gods Word I do not judg unlawfull But Who heard those Prayers Where were they made say you I tell you God heard them and men heard them they were made in our Studies between God our own souls they were made in our families they were made in our daies of private Fasting and Prayer which you call Conventicles Would you have heard them in our Publick Congregations it may be you would but would you then have judged us prudent Yet some of us were so imprudent knowing the tempers of our Congregators which could say heartily Amen to pray publickly for him in his lowest condition The prison had witnessed it had I not a friend who delivered me and this year had not his Majestie been restored it had been proved being threatned to my face and the threats often repeated That as sure as God was in heaven I should be called into question only for praying for the afflicted Royall Family If any desire other Proofs of Loyally to his Majesty in his low condition I could give them but I spare to name them Such Subjects had his Majesty among the now despised Presbyterians who had they not been faithfull and loyal to his Majesty as they were bound to be bythe Solemn Covenant but would have closed with the Army doubtless they could have carried such a Party with them that I believe as yet our King had not set upon his English Throne nor had the voice of Thanksgiving for his restoring been heard in our Iland The Lord then rebuke the spirits of those men who go about notwithstanding his Majesties gracious Declaration to give Liberty to tender Consciences to make sad the hearts of those men who have thus prayed and praised GOD for our King by labouring to impose upon us again those humane Inventions in the Worship of God which were the first beginners of our troubles I say the first beginners for I dare say had it not been for those Humane devices and tyrannical forcing upon the Ministry of Christ what men only invented but God never appointed and for their not yielding to their wills silenced abundance imprisoned divers and forced into banishment many of the eminent Servants of Christ God had not been as yet so provoked though I know there was guilt enough the Spirits of people had not been so exasperated to have raised a Civil Warr and therein spill so much English blood much lesse the bloud of our Soveraign King a person of rare and Princely Endowments as before the Warrs I was a little informed in the Warrs further confirmed but after the Warres certainly assured by that excellent Book of His which who can read and then think who did the fact but must needs lament the wound the stain the blot which the Reformed Protestant Religion accompanied at least seemingly with warm and powerfull profession received alas how shall the glory of it be recovered again See what Tentations drive men to some to secure their own Lives and Estates supposing they lay in danger some from Ambition some from a designe to carry on their one private interest and others out of a fond conceit of another a Fifth Monarchy just now beginning Fools to phansie as if in that glorious time which I doubt not the Church shall have before the ultimate day of judgment according to the Soriptures not mens phansies Kings who are the supream 1 Pet. 2.13 should not be Nursing Fathers Isa 49.23 Thus several men from several Tentations and Principles were carried to act that which my pen shall not name but only pray Lead us not into temptation How well this was resented among the Presbyterians besides what is published and should have been published but that they were so quick in doing that which I could not believe they dared to do were but the several Sermons which they preached some choosing Texts on purpose gathered together Were the lamenting Prayers they made in publick and private recorded among men as they are before God no modest man that loveth truth would say The Presbyterians brought Him to the block who ever did the next act which I love not to mention But to return to the first Beginners which I mentioned of our troubles as I have cause to judge them so chiefly from the Word of a jealous God Exod. 20.5 So I am something the more enclined to judge from the Predictions of two Divines whom Bishop LAUD silenced I heard them both utter them one before the Troubles began the other after this also had foretold before the troubles but I heard him speak the words after yet before the things fell out or there were any such thoughts in the breasts of men insomuch that I was amazed to hear him and how confidently he spake Neither of these had any hand in beginning the troubles I am sure for one both did detest with great abhorrency the death of the King received the news with lamentation I gave no great credence to them for I thought we had no infallible Prophets living but when I saw their words so exactly fulfilled then