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A69533 Five disputations of church-government and worship by Richard Baxter. Baxter, Richard, 1615-1691. 1659 (1659) Wing B1267; ESTC R13446 437,983 583

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that_o i_o take_v not_o to_o need_v a_o answer_n let_v they_o make_v their_o best_a of_o they_o i_o have_v take_v none_o of_o they_o out_o of_o their_o hand_n by_o rob_v they_o of_o their_o book_n if_o they_o think_v they_o valid_a let_v they_o be_v so_o to_o they_o every_o book_n that_o we_o write_v must_v not_o be_v in_o folio_n and_o if_o it_o be_v we_o shall_v leave_v some_o body_n unanswered_a still_o i_o have_v not_o be_v a_o contemner_n or_o neglecter_n of_o the_o write_n of_o the_o contrary-minded_n but_o voluminous_o to_o tell_v the_o world_n of_o that_o i_o think_v they_o abuse_v or_o be_v abuse_v in_o be_v unpleasing_a and_o unprofitable_a sect._n 10._o and_o as_o to_o the_o jus_fw-la divinum_fw-la of_o limit_a diocese_n to_o the_o apostle_n as_o bishop_n and_o of_o archbishop_n metropolitan_o etc._n etc._n i_o shall_v say_v but_o this_o 1._o that_o i_o take_v not_o all_o for_o currant_n in_o matter_n of_o fact_n that_o two_o or_o three_o or_o twice_o so_o many_o say_v be_v do_v when_o i_o have_v either_o cross_a testimony_n or_o valid_a reason_n of_o the_o improbability_n i_o believe_v such_o historian_n but_o with_o a_o humane_a faith_n and_o allow_v they_o such_o a_o degree_n of_o that_o as_o the_o probability_n of_o their_o report_n and_o credibility_n of_o the_o person_n do_v require_v 2._o i_o take_v it_o for_o no_o proof_n that_o all_o that_o be_v do_v in_o all_o the_o church_n that_o i_o be_o tell_v be_v do_v in_o some_o 3._o i_o take_v the_o law_n of_o nature_n and_o scripture_n to_o be_v the_o entire_a divine_a law_n for_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n and_o world_n 4._o and_o therefore_o if_o any_o father_n or_o historian_n tell_v i_o that_o this_o be_v deliver_v by_o the_o apostle_n as_o a_o law_n to_o the_o universal_a church_n which_o be_v not_o contain_v in_o scripture_n
as_o his_o judgement_n that_o the_o scotch_a minister_n then_o to_o be_v consecrate_a bishop_n be_v not_o to_o be_v reordain_v because_o the_o ordination_n of_o presbyter_n be_v valid_a sect._n 5._o these_o novel_a prelatical_a person_n then_o that_o so_o far_o dissent_v from_o the_o whole_a stream_n of_o the_o ancient_a bishop_n and_o their_o adherent_n have_v little_a reason_n to_o expect_v that_o we_o shall_v regard_v their_o judgement_n above_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o english_a clergy_n and_o the_o judgement_n of_o all_o the_o reform_a church_n if_o they_o can_v give_v we_o such_o reason_n as_o shall_v conquer_v our_o modesty_n and_o persuade_v we_o to_o condemn_v the_o judgement_n of_o the_o plelate_n and_o clergy_n of_o england_n &_o all_o other_o church_n of_o the_o protestant_n and_o adhere_v to_o a_o few_o new_a man_n of_o yesterday_o that_o dare_v scarce_o open_v the_o face_n of_o their_o own_o opinion_n we_o shall_v bow_v to_o their_o reason_n when_o we_o discern_v they_o but_o they_o must_v not_o expect_v that_o their_o authority_n shall_v so_o far_o prevail_v sect._n 6._o and_o indeed_o i_o think_v the_o most_o of_o this_o cause_n be_v carry_v on_o in_o the_o dark_a what_o book_n have_v they_o write_v to_o prove_v our_o ordination_n null_a and_o by_o what_o scripture_n reason_n do_v they_o prove_v it_o the_o task_n lie_v on_o they_o to_o prove_v this_o nullity_n if_o they_o will_v be_v regard_v in_o their_o reproach_n of_o the_o church_n of_o christ._n and_o they_o be_v not_o of_o such_o excessive_a modesty_n and_o backwardness_n to_o divulge_v their_o accusation_n but_o sure_o we_o may_v by_o this_o time_n have_v expect_v more_o than_o one_o volume_n from_o they_o to_o have_v prove_v we_o no_o minister_n and_o churchess_n if_o they_o can_v have_v do_v it_o and_o till_o they_o do_v it_o their_o whspering_n be_v not_o to_o be_v credit_v sect._n 7._o argument_n 2._o if_o that_o sort_n of_o prelacy_n that_o be_v exercise_v in_o england_n be_v not_o necessary_a itself_o yea_o if_o it_o be_v sinful_a and_o tend_v to_o the_o subversion_n or_o exceed_a hurt_n of_o the_o church_n then_o be_v there_o no_o necessity_n of_o ordination_n by_o such_o a_o prelacy_n but_o the_o antecedent_n be_v true_a therefore_o so_o be_v the_o consequent_a the_o antecedent_n have_v be_v prove_v at_o large_a in_o the_o forego_n disputation_n such_o a_o prelacy_n as_o consist_v in_o the_o undertake_n of_o a_o impossible_a task_n even_o for_o one_o man_n t●_n be_v the_o only_a governor_n of_o all_o the_o soul_n in_o many_o hundred_o parish_n exercise_v it_o also_o by_o lay_v man_n and_o in_o the_o needful_a part_n not_o exercise_v it_o all_o all_o a_o prelacy_n not_o choose_v by_o the_o presbyter_n who_o they_o govern_v yea_o suspending_a or_o degrade_n ●he_v presbyter_n of_o all_o those_o church_n as_o to_o the_o govern_v part_n of_o the●●_n office_n and_o guilty_a of_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o evil_n before_o mention_v be_v not_o only_a itself_o unnecessary_a but_o sinful_a and_o a_o disease_n of_o the_o church_n which_o all_o good_a man_n shall_v do_v the_o best_a they_o can_v to_o cure_v and_o therefore_o the_o effect_n of_o this_o disease_n can_v be_v no_o more_o necessary_a to_o our_o ministry_n than_o the_o bur●ing_n of_o a_o fever_n or_o swell_v of_o a_o tympany_n be_v necessary_a to_o the_o body_n sect._n 8._o no_o bishop_n be_v necessary_a but_o such_o as_o be_v in_o scriture_n time_n but_o there_o be_v none_o such_o as_o the_o late_a english_a bishop_n in_o scripture_n time_n therefore_o the_o english_a bishop●_n be_v not_o necessary_a he_o that_o deny_v the_o major_a must_v go_v further_o in_o deny_v the_o sufficiency_n of_o scripture_n then_o i_o find_v the_o papist_n ordinary_o to_o do_v for_o they_o will_v be_v loath_a to_o affirm_v that_o any_o office_n be_v of_o necessity_n to_o the_o be_v of_o the_o church_n or_o of_o presbyter_n that_o be_v not_o to_o be_v find_v in_o scripture_n or_o that_o be_v not_o then_o in_o be_v therefore_o so_o far_o we_o be_v secure_a sect._n 9_o and_o for_o the_o minor_a i_o prove_v it_o thus_o if_o the_o english_a bishop_n be_v ●either_o such_o as_o the_o unfixed_a general_n minister_n nor_o such_o as_o the_o fix_a bishop_n of_o particular_a church_n than_o be_v they_o not_o such_o as_o be_v in_o scripture_n time_n but_o they_o be_v neither_o such_o as_o the_o unfixed_a general_n minister_n nor_o such_o as_o the_o fix_a bishop_n of_o particular_a church_n therefore_o etc._n etc._n sect._n 10._o besides_o these_o two_o sort_n of_o minister_n there_o be_v no_o more_o in_o the_o new_a testament_n and_o these_o a●e_v diversify_v but_o by_o the_o exercise_n of_o their_o office_n so_o far_o as_o they_o be_v ordinary_a minister_n to_o continue_v the_o unfixed_a minister_n whether_o apostles_n evangelist_n or_o prophet_n be_v ●uch_o as_o have_v no_o special_a charge_n of_o any_o one_o church_n as_o their_o diocese_n but_o be_v to_o do_v their_o best_a for_o the_o church_n in_o general_n and_o follow_v the_o direction_n and_o call_v of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n for_o the_o exercise_v of_o their_o ministry_n but_o it_o be_v know_v to_o all_o that_o our_o engsish_a bishop_n be_v not_o such_o they_o be_v no_o ambulatory_a itinerant_a preacher_n they_o go_v not_o about_o to_o plant_v church_n and_o confirm_v and_o direct_v such_o as_o they_o have_v plant_v but_o be_v fix_v to_o a_o city_n and_o have_v every_o one_o their_o diocese_n which_o be_v their_o proper_a charge_n but_o oh_o how_o they_o discharge_v their_o undertake_n sect._n 11._o object_n the_o apostle_n may_v agree_v among_o themselves_o to_o divide_v their_o province_n and_o do_v according_o james_z being_z bishop_n of_o jerusalem_n peter_n of_o rome_n etc._n etc._n answ._n no_o doubt_v but_o common_a reason_n will_v teach_v they_o when_o they_o be_v send_v to_o preach_v the_o gospel_n to_o all_o the_o world_n to_o disperse_v themselves_o and_o not_o be_v preach_v all_o in_o a_o place_n to_o the_o disadvantage_n of_o their_o work_n but_o 1._o it_o be_v one_o thing_n to_o travail_v several_a way_n and_o so_o divide_v themselves_o as_o itinerant_n and_o another_o thing_n to_o divide_v the_o church_n among_o they_o as_o their_o several_a diocese_n to_o wh●ch_v they_o shall_v be_v fix_v which_o they_o never_o do_v for_o aught_o be_v prove_v 2._o and_o its_o one_o thing_n prudent_o to_o disperse_v themselves_o for_o their_o labour_n an●_n another_o thing_n to_o claim_v a_o special_a power_n over_o a_o circuit_n or_o diocese_n as_o their_o charge_n exclude_v a_o like_a charge_n and_o power_n of_o other_o so_o far_o as_o any_o man_n apostle_n or_o other_o be_v the_o father_n of_o soul_n by_o their_o conversion_n they_o own_v he_o a_o special_a honour_n and_o love_n which_o the_o apostle_n themselves_o do_v sometime_o claim_v but_o this_o be_v nothing_o to_o a_o peculiar_a diocese_n or_o province_n for_o in_o the_o same_o city_n a_o jerusalem_n some_o may_v be_v convert_v by_o one_o apostle_n and_o some_o by_o another_o and_o if_o a_o presbyter_n convert_v they_o i_o think_v the_o adversary_n will_v not_o therefore_o make_v they_o his_o diocese_n not_o give_v he_o there_o a_o episcopal_a power_n much_o less_o above_o apostle_n in_o that_o place_n nor_o be_v this_o the_o rule_n that_o diocese_n can_v be_v bound_v by_o as_o now_o they_o be_v take_v sect._n 12._o nor_o do_v we_o find_v in_o scripture_n the_o least_o intimation_n that_o the_o apostle_n be_v fix_v diocesan_n bishop_n but_o much_o to_o the_o contrary_n 1._o in_o that_o it_o be_v not_o consistent_a with_o the_o general_n charge_n and_o work_v that_o christ_n have_v lay_v upon_o they_o to_o go_v into_o all_o the_o world_n and_o preach_v the_o gospel_n to_o every_o creature_n how_o will_v this_o stand_v with_o fix_v in_o a_o peculiar_a diocese_n sect._n 13._o and_o 2._o we_o find_v they_o answer_v their_o commission_n in_o their_o practice_n go_v abroad_o and_o preach_v and_o plant_v church_n and_o sometime_o visit_v they_o in_o their_o passage_n but_o not_o s●tling_v on_o they_o as_o their_o diocese_n but_o go_v further_o if_o they_o have_v opportunity_n to_o do_v the_o like_a for_o other_o place_n yea_o they_o plant_v bishop_n in_o the_o several_a city_n and_o church_n which_o they_o have_v gather_v to_o christ._n though_o paul_n stay_v three_o year_n at_o ephesus_n and_o other_o adjacent_a part_n of_o asia_n yet_o do_v not_o all_o that_o abode_n prove_v it_o his_o peculiar_a diocese_n and_o yes_o its_o hard_a to_o find_v again_o so_o long_o a_o abode_n of_o paul_n or_o any_o apostle_n in_o one_o place_n elder_n that_o be_v bishop_n we_o find_v at_o ephesus_n act_v 20._o and_o some_o say_v timothy_n be_v their_o bishop_n and_o some_o say_v john_n the_o apostle_n be_v their_o bishop_n but_o its_o clear_a that_o it_o be_v
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