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A10341 A replye answering a defence of the sermon, preached at the consecration of the bishop of Bathe and Welles, by George Downame, Doctor of Divinitye In defence of an answere to the foresayd sermon imprinted anno 1609 Sheerwood, Rihcard, attributed name. 1614 (1614) STC 20620; ESTC S113712 509,992 580

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