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A67270 Baptismōn didachē, the doctrine of baptisms, or, A discourse of dipping and sprinkling wherein is shewed the lawfulness of other ways of baptization, besides that of a total immersion, and objections against it answered / by William Walker ... Walker, William, 1623-1684. 1678 (1678) Wing W417; ESTC R39415 264,191 320

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christian_a faith_n an._n chr._n 385._o and_o in_o the_o 31._o year_n of_o his_o own_o life_n and_o he_o in_o his_o confession_n l._n 1._o c._n 11._o tell_v we_o that_o in_o his_o childhood_n and_o therefore_o this_o passage_n of_o his_o life_n must_v of_o necessity_n be_v refer_v unto_o this_o century_n be_v in_o a_o fit_a of_o sickness_n and_o like_a to_o die_v he_o earnest_o desire_v to_o be_v baptize_v and_o that_o have_v he_o not_o recover_v through_o his_o mother_n hasten_v care_n he_o have_v then_o be_v baptize_v but_o sure_o he_o have_v not_o be_v baptize_v by_o dip_v pene_fw-la moriturus_fw-la when_o he_o be_v just_a at_o the_o point_n of_o death_n that_o pious_a care_n of_o his_o mother_n which_o make_v she_o hasten_v his_o baptism_n to_o save_v his_o soul_n will_v have_v provide_v that_o in_o the_o manner_n of_o his_o baptise_v nothing_o shall_v be_v do_v that_o may_v destroy_v his_o body_n there_o be_v a_o way_n then_o for_o baptise_v of_o person_n in_o danger_n of_o death_n that_o be_v the_o thing_n i_o hence_o observe_v and_o i_o leave_v it_o to_o the_o reader_n to_o think_v if_o he_o can_v how_o it_o shall_v be_v do_v by_o dip_v or_o what_o other_o so_o convenient_a a_o way_n there_o be_v or_o can_v be_v for_o it_o as_o sprinkle_v §_o 54._o in_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o five_o century_n to_o proceed_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o turn_v at_o land_n end_n flourish_v st._n augustin_n with_o who_o i_o end_v the_o last_o century_n and_o as_o in_o the_o first_o book_n of_o his_o confession_n he_o tell_v we_o of_o his_o own_o be_v like_a to_o have_v be_v baptize_v so_o in_o the_o four_o book_n he_o tell_v we_o of_o a_o friend_n of_o he_o that_o real_o be_v baptize_v in_o his_o sickness_n 854._o cùm_fw-la enim_fw-la laboraret_fw-la ille_fw-la febribus_fw-la &_o jacuit_fw-la diu_fw-la sine_fw-la sensu_fw-la in_fw-la sudore_fw-la letali_fw-la &_o cum_fw-la desperaretur_fw-la baptizatus_fw-la est_fw-la nesciens_fw-la d._n aug._n confess_v l._n 4._o c._n 4._o see_v d._n aug._n ad_fw-la pollent_fw-la l._n 1._o c._n 26._o tom._n 6._o col_fw-fr 854._o and_o that_o be_v in_o a_o high_a fever_n and_o in_o a_o deadly_a sweat_n give_v over_o for_o life_n and_o utter_o ignorant_a of_o what_o be_v do_v that_o the_o baptism_n administer_v to_o this_o person_n be_v it_o after_o what_o manner_n it_o will_v or_o can_v be_v a_o baptism_n be_v clear_o intimate_v by_o st._n augustin_n while_o he_o say_v express_o of_o he_o baptizatus_fw-la est_fw-la he_o be_v baptize_v but_o whether_o this_o baptism_n be_v administer_v by_o a_o total_a dip_v of_o the_o person_n under_o these_o circumstance_n in_o his_o sickness_n in_o a_o high_a fever_n in_o a_o deadly_a sweat_n give_v over_o for_o life_n past_a sense_n or_o whether_o he_o be_v not_o rather_o baptize_v by_o sprinkle_v of_o water_n upon_o he_o i_o leave_v even_o to_o the_o most_o prejudicate_v reader_n in_o the_o world_n to_o judge_v §_o 55._o the_o same_o st._n augustin_n while_o bishop_n of_o hippo_n tell_v we_o in_o his_o 22th_o book_n the_o civ_o dei_fw-la c._n 8._o how_o one_o martialis_n be_v convert_v on_o his_o deathbed_n and_o baptize_v therefore_o not_o dip_v but_o what_o be_v most_o probable_a because_o most_o usual_a in_o case_n of_o necessity_n sprinkle_v at_o his_o baptise_v §_o 56._o but_o he_o that_o shall_v read_v the_o four_o chapter_n of_o st._n augustin_n six_o book_n against_o julian_n the_o pelagian_a perfunditur_fw-la non_fw-la enim_fw-la frustra_fw-la crederis_fw-la noluisse_fw-la dicere_fw-la quòd_fw-la renascitur_fw-la sed_fw-la quòd_fw-la perfunditur_fw-la and_o there_o find_v perfundi_fw-la use_v for_o baptizari_fw-la and_o perfusio_fw-la for_o baptismus_fw-la and_o perfusus_fw-la for_o baptizatus_fw-la though_o st._n augustin_n find_v fault_n with_o julian_n for_o use_v that_o word_n out_o of_o a_o design_n to_o put_v a_o contempt_n upon_o baptism_n 1110._o hoc_fw-la enim_fw-la verbum_fw-la sc_fw-la baptizatur_fw-la ex_fw-la graeco_fw-la latina_n consuctudo_fw-la sic_fw-la habet_fw-la ut_fw-la non_fw-la soleat_fw-la alibi_fw-la nisi_fw-la in_o sacramento_n regenerationis_fw-la intelligi_fw-la nihil_fw-la horum_fw-la dicere_fw-la voluisti_fw-la sed_fw-la elegisti_fw-la verbum_fw-la quo_fw-la fieret_fw-la contemptibile_fw-la quod_fw-la dicebas_fw-la nemo_fw-la enim_fw-la legentium_fw-la praeferre_fw-la potest_fw-la natum_fw-la renato_fw-la vel_fw-la regenerato_fw-la vel_fw-la baptizato_fw-la sed_fw-la facilè_fw-la putâsti_fw-la natum_fw-la praeferri_fw-la posse_fw-la perfuso_fw-la si_fw-mi autem_fw-la quantum_fw-la distat_fw-la coelum_fw-la &_o terra_fw-la tanto_fw-la melius_fw-la est_fw-la perfundi_fw-la ut_fw-la portetur_fw-la hominis_fw-la imago_fw-la coelestibus_fw-la quàm_fw-la nasci_fw-la ut_fw-la portetur_fw-la hominis_fw-la imago_fw-la terreni_fw-la evanuit_fw-la jam_fw-la tua_fw-la ista_fw-la invidiosa_fw-la partitio_fw-la neque_fw-la enim_fw-la mirandum_fw-la est_fw-la si_fw-la coelestibus_fw-la hominis_fw-la imaginem_fw-la quae_fw-la sacrâ_fw-la perfusione_n suscipitur_fw-la sibi_fw-la vendicat_fw-la deus_fw-la etc._n etc._n d._n aug._n contr_n julian_n pelag._n c._n 4._o tom._n 7._o col_fw-fr 1110._o tell_v he_o that_o this_o word_n baptizari_fw-la though_o original_o greek_a yet_o be_v by_o the_o custom_n of_o the_o latin_n appropriate_v to_o the_o sacrament_n of_o regeneration_n will_v be_v out_o of_o doubt_n that_o baptism_n be_v administer_v in_o those_o day_n by_o way_n of_o perfusion_n pour_v or_o shed_v on_o of_o water_n for_o wherein_o else_o can_v that_o appellation_n be_v found_v and_o st._n augustin_n that_o find_v fault_n with_o his_o use_n of_o that_o word_n only_o because_o not_o so_o customary_o apply_v to_o the_o thing_n as_o baptism_n be_v will_v not_o have_v fail_v to_o have_v find_v fault_n with_o he_o if_o there_o have_v be_v no_o such_o thing_n in_o use_n as_o be_v signify_v by_o that_o word_n §_o 57_o and_o that_o baptism_n be_v perform_v in_o those_o day_n not_o only_o by_o pour_v but_o also_o by_o sprinkle_v of_o water_n on_o the_o baptize_v be_v beyond_o exception_n declare_v by_o that_o father_n in_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr ecclesiasticis_fw-la dogmatibus_fw-la if_o that_o book_n be_v he_o but_o because_o though_o insert_v among_o his_o work_n it_o be_v and_o i_o suppose_v more_o true_o impute_v to_o gennadius_n who_o flourish_v too_o in_o this_o same_o century_n though_o somewhat_o after_o st._n aug._n i_o shall_v refer_v it_o to_o its_o proper_a place_n §_o 58._o i_o will_v not_o say_v 4._o in_o hoc_fw-la ergo_fw-la fonte_fw-la antequam_fw-la vos_fw-la toto_fw-la corpore_fw-la tingeremus_fw-la interrogavimus_fw-la credis_fw-la deum_fw-la patrem_fw-la omnipotentem_fw-la d._n aug._n ad_fw-la neophyl_n apud_fw-la gratian._n de_fw-fr consecr_n do_v 4._o fol._n 449._o col_fw-fr 3._o de_fw-fr trinâ_fw-la immersione_n aug_n ait_fw-fr postquam_fw-la nos_fw-la credere_fw-la promisimus_fw-la tertiò_fw-la capita_fw-la nostra_fw-la in_o sacro_fw-la fonte_fw-la demersimus_fw-la p._n lomb._n l._n 4._o do_v 3._o tit._n de_fw-fr immersione_n or_o as_o gratian_n report_v it_o postquam_fw-la vos_fw-la credere_fw-la promisistis_fw-la capita_fw-la vestra_fw-la which_o read_v i_o rather_o approve_v of_o gratian._n de_fw-mi consecr_n do_v 4._o sol_fw-la 449._o col_fw-fr 4._o but_o that_o there_o may_v be_v baptizing_n of_o person_n in_o that_o age_n by_o a_o total_a immersion_n of_o they_o yet_o what_o peter_n lombard_n quote_v from_o st._n augustin_n seem_v to_o intimate_v it_o to_o have_v be_v a_o fashion_n also_o to_o baptize_v not_o by_o a_o total_a immersion_n of_o the_o whole_a person_n but_o by_o a_o demersion_n of_o the_o head_n of_o the_o party_n baptize_v after_o that_o we_o have_v profess_v ourselves_o to_o believe_v we_o do_v three_o time_n demerse_v or_o dip_v our_o head_n in_o the_o holy_a font._n so_o he_o §_o 59_o contemporary_a with_o st._n augustin_n and_o even_o in_o both_o the_o century_n be_v paulinus_n bishop_n of_o nola_n flourish_v about_o an._n chr._n 420._o and_o from_o he_o i_o find_v quote_v by_o rigaltius_n a_o passage_n which_o seem_v to_o intimate_v even_o the_o baptism_n of_o john_n the_o baptist_n to_o have_v be_v not_o by_o dip_v of_o the_o party_n baptize_v into_o the_o water_n but_o by_o pour_v of_o water_n on_o he_o diluit_fw-la infusis_fw-la 70._o diluit_fw-la infusis_fw-la credentum_fw-la crimina_fw-la lymphis_fw-la absolvitque_fw-la metus_fw-la hominum_fw-la poenasque_fw-la remittit_fw-la paulin._n ep._n nolan_n ap_fw-mi rigalt_n not._n in_o tertull_n p._n 70._o etc._n etc._n i._n e._n he_o wash_v away_o the_o sin_n of_o believer_n by_o water_n pour_v on_o the_o water_n pour_v on_o here_o must_v certain_o be_v mean_v to_o be_v pour_v on_o the_o baptize_v person_n or_o else_o into_o the_o river_n for_o he_o baptize_v in_o the_o river_n to_o conceive_v the_o late_a be_v ridiculous_a for_o what_o shall_v he_o pour_v water_n into_o the_o river_n for_o therefore_o it_o must_v be_v on_o the_o party_n baptize_v and_o then_o here_o be_v another_o proof_n yet_o more_o beside_o those_o of_o st._n bernard_n lactantius_n and_o prudentius_n to_o strengthen_v the_o opinion_n that_o our_o saviour_n be_v not_o baptize_v
christian_n have_v be_v indispensable_o oblige_v by_o some_o precept_n to_o a_o exact_a conformity_n herein_o with_o the_o jew_n their_o practice_n be_v no_o tie_n on_o we_o but_o as_o the_o dipper_n i_o think_v be_v unable_a to_o prove_v the_o one_o so_o i_o hope_v i_o have_v satisfactory_o in_o these_o paper_n prove_v the_o other_o v._n ch_n 8._o §_o 49._o mr._n daniel_n rogers_n to_o pass_v on_o to_o he_o in_o his_o treatise_n of_o sacrament_n part._n 1._o c._n 8._o p._n 177._o it_o shall_v be_v ch_n 5._o p._n 69._o and_o 70._o say_v as_o mr._n d._n report_v he_o that_o the_o minister_n be_v to_o dip_v in_o water_n as_o the_o meet_a act_n the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d note_n it_o for_o the_o greek_n want_v not_o other_o word_n to_o express_v any_o other_o act_n beside_o dip_v if_o the_o institution_n can_v bear_v it_o what_o resemblance_n of_o the_o burial_n or_o resurrection_n of_o christ_n be_v in_o sprinkle_v all_o antiquity_n and_o scripture_n say_v he_o confirm_v that_o way_n to_o dip_v therefore_o be_v exceed_o material_a to_o the_o ordinance_n which_o be_v the_o usage_n of_o old_a without_o exception_n of_o country_n hot_a or_o cold_a §_o 50._o a_o very_a smart_n and_o press_a testimony_n this_o if_o all_o be_v as_o mr._n d._n report_v it_o but_o here_o to_o see_v the_o luck_n of_o it_o good_a or_o bad_a let_v mr._n d._n look_v to_o that_o he_o have_v not_o give_v we_o mr._n rogers_n word_n in_o full_a nor_o in_o the_o order_n he_o speak_v they_o but_o have_v pick_v out_o here_o and_o there_o what_o he_o think_v good_a leave_v the_o rest_n a_o way_n of_o proceed_v this_o by_o which_o a_o man_n may_v be_v make_v to_o say_v what_o one_o will_n but_o i_o will_v not_o go_v about_o to_o charge_v he_o with_o wrong_v mr._n rogers_n in_o the_o whole_a of_o his_o sense_n who_o speak_v much_o to_o the_o same_o purpose_n though_o not_o exact_o in_o those_o word_n and_o yet_o i_o can_v find_v in_o mr._n roger_n the_o very_a first_o and_o those_o very_a material_a word_n that_o the_o minister_n be_v to_o dip_v in_o water_n as_o the_o meet_a act._n nor_o those_o word_n the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d note_n it_o but_o something_o there_o be_v that_o be_v near_o it_o if_o mr._n d._n will_v have_v speak_v it_o out_o and_o it_o be_v pity_n he_o shall_v either_o muzzle_v his_o author_n or_o ham-string_n his_o own_o pen._n but_o than_o it_o will_v not_o have_v be_v for_o his_o purpose_n for_o he_o say_v the_o word_n baptize_v signify_v the_o true_a act_n of_o the_o minister_n to_o dip_v or_o dop_v the_o body_n or_o some_o part_n of_o it_o into_o the_o water_n this_o one_o word_n or_o some_o part_n of_o it_o have_v quite_o spoil_v all_o mr._n roger_n testimony_n as_o to_o the_o do_v of_o the_o dipper_n any_o service_n in_o their_o cause_n for_o nothing_o will_v serve_v their_o turn_n to_o be_v do_v in_o baptism_n or_o signify_v by_o the_o word_n baptize_v but_o a_o total_a dip_v of_o the_o whole_a body_n and_o mr._n roger_n testimony_n reach_v but_o a_o dip_v of_o the_o body_n or_o some_o part_n of_o it_o into_o the_o water_n §_o 51._o and_o that_o this_o be_v not_o a_o expression_n that_o fall_v casual_o from_o he_o but_o be_v his_o very_a judgement_n appear_v by_o what_o he_o say_v before_o that_o it_o ought_v to_o be_v the_o church_n part_n to_o cleave_v to_o the_o institution_n especial_o it_o be_v not_o leave_v arbitrary_a by_o our_o church_n to_o the_o discretion_n of_o the_o minister_n but_o require_v as_o it_o then_o be_v to_o dip_v or_o dive_v the_o infant_n more_o or_o less_o except_o in_o case_n of_o weakness_n a_o dip_v total_a or_o partial_a the_o man_n will_v have_v but_o so_o there_o be_v but_o either_o the_o institution_n be_v cleaved_a to_o and_o the_o church_n order_n observe_v so_o far_o as_o i_o can_v perceive_v in_o his_o judgement_n §_o 52._o and_o that_o as_o warm_a as_o mr._n rogers_n be_v for_o retrive_v the_o use_n of_o dip_v as_o witness_v to_o by_o antiquity_n approve_v by_o scripture_n require_v by_o the_o church_n as_o then_o it_o be_v with_o not_o so_o much_o appearance_n of_o liberty_n in_o the_o case_n grant_v to_o the_o minister_n as_o now_o be_v and_o symbolical_a with_o the_o thing_n signify_v in_o baptism_n which_o i_o can_v wish_v as_o well_o as_o and_o as_o hearty_o as_o he_o in_o order_n to_o the_o make_n of_o peace_n in_o the_o church_n if_o that_o will_v do_v it_o i_o say_v that_o he_o be_v only_o so_o for_o dip_v as_o yet_o not_o to_o hold_v any_o unlawfulness_n to_o be_v in_o sprinkle_v there_o be_v sufficient_a evidence_n because_o he_o think_v that_o for_o the_o allowance_n of_o that_o in_o case_n of_o weakness_n we_o have_v cause_n to_o be_v thankful_a and_o i_o presume_v his_o zeal_n be_v only_o against_o those_o that_o stretch_v the_o liberty_n of_o the_o church_n in_o this_o case_n deep_o and_o further_o than_o either_o the_o church_n herself_o can_v or_o the_o solemnness_n of_o this_o sacrament_n may_v well_o and_o safe_o admit_v as_o himself_z speaks_z and_o as_o in_o the_o begin_n of_o this_o section_n he_o say_v i_o will_v not_o be_v understand_v as_o if_o schismatical_o i_o will_v instill_v a_o distaste_n of_o the_o church_n into_o any_o weak_a mind_n by_o the_o act_n of_o sprinkle_v water_n only_o so_o in_o the_o end_n of_o it_o he_o say_v again_o i_o do_v not_o speak_v this_o as_o a_o thing_n meet_v to_o disturb_v a_o church_n peace_n but_o as_o desire_v such_o as_o it_o concern_v in_o their_o place_n to_o look_v to_o their_o liberty_n and_o duty_n in_o this_o behalf_n §_o 53._o and_o i_o shall_v conclude_v with_o a_o wish_n that_o the_o quoter_n of_o he_o will_v have_v but_o the_o same_o thought_n of_o it_o as_o his_o author_n have_v and_o there_o will_v soon_o be_v a_o agreement_n with_o he_o and_o the_o church_n which_o require_v dip_v but_o allow_v sprinkle_v on_o just_a reason_n for_o it_o and_o if_o he_o have_v any_o child_n to_o be_v baptize_v he_o may_v have_v they_o dip_v and_o total_o too_o in_o it_o if_o he_o desire_v it_o and_o i_o must_v needs_o say_v that_o if_o there_o be_v any_o failure_n in_o this_o case_n and_o perhaps_o there_o may_v be_v some_o it_o be_v not_o in_o the_o church_n nor_o in_o her_o order_n for_o by_o they_o dip_v be_v prescribe_v unless_o where_o a_o inability_n well_o to_o endure_v it_o in_o the_o infant_n be_v certify_v but_o in_o the_o actor_n and_o if_o any_o way_n at_o all_o in_o the_o baptizer_n yet_o most_o if_o not_o sole_o in_o the_o bringer_n of_o the_o infant_n unto_o baptism_n which_o every_o man_n may_v have_v as_o to_o his_o own_o concern_n amend_v and_o reform_v at_o his_o pleasure_n nay_o if_o i_o may_v speak_v my_o thought_n i_o believe_v the_o minister_n of_o the_o nation_n will_v be_v hearty_o glad_a if_o the_o people_n will_v desire_v or_o be_v but_o willing_a to_o have_v their_o infant_n dip_v after_o the_o ancient_a manner_n both_o in_o this_o and_o in_o other_o church_n and_o bring_v they_o to_o baptism_n in_o such_o a_o condition_n as_o that_o they_o may_v be_v total_o dip_v without_o fear_n of_o be_v destroy_v §_o 54._o dr._n taylor_n so_o mr._n d._n go_v on_o in_o his_o rule_n of_o conscience_n l._n 3._o c._n 4._o if_o you_o will_v attend_v to_o the_o proper_a signification_n of_o the_o word_n baptism_n signify_v plunge_v in_o water_n or_o dip_v with_o wash_v §_o 55._o i_o be_o not_o willing_a to_o say_v it_o yet_o be_o apt_a to_o suspect_v it_o that_o mr._n d._n be_v the_o author_n of_o those_o word_n and_o not_o dr._n taylor_n my_o reason_n be_v because_o he_o give_v we_o no_o particular_a direction_n to_o the_o place_n where_o they_o may_v be_v find_v he_o quote_v indeed_o l._n 3._o c._n 4._o but_o he_o name_v not_o the_o section_n rule_n number_n nor_o page_n and_o he_o have_v need_n have_v more_o time_n and_o leisure_n than_o i_o that_o shall_v make_v it_o his_o business_n to_o read_v over_o a_o chapter_n of_o a_o hundred_o and_o ten_o page_n in_o folio_n to_o find_v whether_o he_o speak_v true_a or_o no._n he_o name_v afterward_o when_o he_o have_v a_o mind_n to_o be_v find_v l._n 3._o c._n 4._o p._n 644_o 645._o why_o not_o here_o i_o have_v show_v my_o suspicion_n and_o my_o reason_n to_o suspect_v and_o i_o be_o strengthen_v therein_o by_o this_o that_o as_o i_o shall_v show_v afterward_o he_o quote_v a_o say_n of_o musculus_fw-la on_o matth._n 3._o at_o large_a without_o name_v verse_n of_o the_o chapter_n or_o page_n of_o the_o book_n and_o as_o upon_o diligent_a search_n i_o have_v find_v there_o be_v no_o such_o word_n say_v by_o
musculus_fw-la on_o that_o chapter_n and_o though_o i_o have_v not_o read_v all_o this_o chapter_n yet_o i_o have_v read_v all_o the_o place_n in_o it_o which_o speak_v of_o baptism_n as_o far_o as_o i_o can_v find_v direction_n thereto_o by_o the_o index_n and_o no_o such_o word_n appear_v to_o i_o therein_o nay_o a_o friend_n of_o i_o that_o have_v twice_o peruse_v the_o whole_a chapter_n upon_o the_o mere_a design_n of_o find_v that_o passage_n in_o it_o assure_v i_o that_o it_o be_v not_o there_o and_o if_o it_o be_v the_o answer_n thereto_o be_v very_o easy_a that_o though_o what_o he_o name_n be_v the_o proper_a signification_n of_o the_o word_n it_o do_v not_o follow_v that_o it_o must_v be_v take_v in_o no_o other_o but_o that_o proper_a signification_n in_o baptism_n in_o regard_n word_n be_v not_o in_o all_o place_n and_o upon_o all_o occasion_n use_v in_o no_o other_o but_o that_o which_o be_v their_o proper_a signification_n but_o sometime_o in_o acception_n very_o different_a and_o remote_a from_o the_o first_o as_o he_o that_o be_v but_o a_o little_a acquaint_v with_o rhetoric_n can_v tell_v and_o this_o word_n in_o particular_a have_v in_o the_o ecclesiastical_a use_n of_o it_o by_o a_o metalepsis_n or_o a_o synecdoche_n of_o the_o species_n for_o the_o species_n be_v of_o ancient_a time_n even_o up_o to_o the_o beginning_n for_o aught_o that_o any_o man_n can_v prove_v to_o the_o contrary_a use_v to_o signify_v that_o sacramental_a wash_n which_o we_o call_v baptism_n though_o not_o perform_v by_o that_o specifical_a way_n of_o dip_v but_o by_o any_o other_o way_n of_o wash_v whether_o it_o be_v perfusion_n affusion_n or_o aspersion_n §_o 56._o mr._n joseph_n mede_n be_v the_o next_o witness_v produce_v by_o mr._n danvers_n and_o he_o in_o his_o diatribe_n on_o tit._n 3.2_o say_v that_o there_o be_v no_o such_o thing_n as_o sprinkle_v or_o rhantism_n use_v in_o baptism_n in_o the_o apostle_n day_n nor_o many_o age_n after_o they_o §_o 57_o to_o this_o i_o answer_v 1._o if_o mr._n mede_n have_v say_v he_o know_v of_o no_o such_o thing_n or_o have_v read_v of_o no_o such_o thing_n it_o have_v be_v a_o expression_n suitable_a to_o his_o modesty_n but_o positive_o to_o say_v there_o be_v no_o such_o thing_n seem_v a_o stretch_v somewhat_o too_o far_o beyond_o what_o ought_v to_o have_v be_v say_v it_o be_v easy_a to_o say_v of_o a_o thing_n that_o it_o be_v do_v in_o the_o apostle_n day_n when_o there_o appear_v just_a evidence_n for_o it_o but_o who_o can_v say_v what_o be_v not_o do_v in_o the_o day_n of_o the_o apostle_n unless_o he_o have_v read_v what_o yet_o i_o be_o apt_a to_o think_v mr._n mede_n himself_o as_o great_a a_o searcher_n into_o antiquity_n as_o he_o be_v will_v not_o have_v pretend_v to_o have_v read_v viz._n all_o that_o have_v be_v write_v of_o what_o be_v do_v in_o the_o apostle_n day_n and_o withal_o unless_o all_o that_o be_v do_v in_o their_o day_n have_v be_v write_v too_o which_o no_o man_n with_o any_o the_o least_o appearance_n of_o reason_n can_v pretend_v to_o say_v but_o great_a man_n sometime_o take_v a_o pleasure_n to_o say_v great_a thing_n and_o think_v that_o their_o greatness_n carry_v authority_n enough_o with_o it_o to_o bear_v they_o out_o in_o all_o they_o say_v but_o it_o will_v not_o beyond_o reason_n when_o what_o they_o say_v come_v to_o be_v examine_v by_o reason_n and_o so_o this_o great_a man_n word_n here_o be_v of_o no_o more_o weight_n than_o a_o great_a man_n word_n can_v be_v without_o its_o ground_n whereof_o here_o he_o give_v we_o none_o §_o 58._o and_o on_o the_o contrary_a to_o what_o he_o faith_n i_o have_v in_o ch._n 10._o show_v fair_a probability_n even_o of_o a_o sprinkle_n or_o rhantism_n use_v in_o baptism_n even_o in_o the_o apostle_n day_n unto_o which_o i_o may_v now_o here_o add_v that_o if_o there_o be_v any_o soundness_n in_o their_o exposition_n of_o that_o difficult_a text_n 1_o cor._n 15.29_o what_o shall_v they_o do_v that_o be_v baptize_v for_o the_o dead_a 302._o vnde_fw-la etiam_fw-la super_fw-la sepulchris_fw-la baptizabantur_fw-la in_o veteri_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la qui_fw-la super_fw-la mortuis_fw-la baptizari_fw-la dicuntur_fw-la 1_o cor._n 15.29_o voss_n de_fw-fr sacrament_n efficacià_fw-la disp_n 1._o thes_n 29._o p._n 302._o who_o expound_v there_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d not_o for_o but_o over_o the_o dead_a ground_v their_o exposition_n on_o a_o custom_n in_o the_o ancient_a church_n to_o baptize_v the_o live_n over_o the_o grave_n of_o the_o dead_a this_o give_v a_o further_a probability_n unto_o it_o it_o be_v nothing_o so_o likely_a that_o in_o such_o place_n they_o be_v dip_v there_o be_v neither_o river_n nor_o font_n there_o as_o that_o they_o be_v sprinkle_v and_o that_o we_o find_v it_o in_o most_o age_n after_o the_o apostle_n and_o can_v find_v no_o original_a of_o it_o in_o any_o age_n after_o they_o this_o be_v probability_n enough_o of_o its_o be_v in_o use_n even_o in_o their_o age._n §_o 59_o second_o whereas_o mr._n mede_n say_v it_o be_v not_o use_v many_o age_n after_o the_o apostle_n day_n unless_o he_o mean_v that_o it_o be_v not_o use_v solemn_o and_o in_o public_a but_o only_o in_o private_a and_o upon_o case_n of_o necessity_n in_o which_o if_o he_o say_v it_o he_o do_v not_o contradict_v we_o i_o be_o not_o able_a to_o say_v it_o be_v true_a have_v by_o sufficient_a instance_n already_o in_o these_o paper_n demonstrate_v the_o contrary_a and_o if_o what_o mr._n danvers_n say_v p._n 204._o be_v true_a that_o until_o the_o three_o century_n we_o find_v not_o any_o that_o upon_o any_o consideration_n do_v admit_v of_o sprinkle_v yet_o if_o any_o in_o that_o age_n do_v admit_v it_o than_o there_o be_v such_o a_o thing_n as_o sprinkle_v or_o rhantism_n use_v in_o baptism_n quite_o contrary_a to_o what_o mr._n mede_n say_v and_o that_o even_o by_o the_o confession_n of_o mr._n d._n not_o many_o age_n after_o the_o apostle_n unless_o any_o will_v say_v that_o the_o three_o century_n be_v many_o age_n after_o the_o first_o which_o yet_o i_o think_v none_o that_o understand_v number_n and_o multitude_n will_v say_v and_o that_o some_o body_n in_o that_o age_n do_v admit_v of_o it_o mr._n d._n be_v our_o witness_n who_o quote_v cyprian_a for_o it_o in_o his_o epistle_n to_o magnus_n l._n 4._o ep_n 7._o where_o he_o plead_v for_o the_o baptise_v of_o the_o sick_a by_o sprinkle_v and_o not_o by_o dip_v or_o pour_v call_v the_o clinical_a baptism_n magd._n cent._n 3._o c._n 6._o p._n 126._o as_o also_o for_o the_o sprinkle_v of_o new_a convert_v prisoner_n in_o the_o prison_n house_n and_o which_o by_o degree_n afterward_o they_o bring_v in_o use_n for_o sick_a child_n also_o and_o then_o afterward_o all_o child_n so_o that_o by_o this_o testimony_n little_a be_v gain_v to_o the_o cause_n more_o than_o what_o the_o credit_n of_o the_o bare_a name_n of_o mr._n mede_n can_v give_v to_o it_o but_o amicus_fw-la socrates_n amicus_fw-la plato_n magis_fw-la tamen_fw-la amica_fw-la veritas_fw-la §_o 60._o but_o what_o after_o all_o this_o if_o mr._n mede_n in_o say_v no_o such_o thing_n be_v use_v do_v not_o mean_a that_o no_o such_o thing_n be_v do_v but_o that_o it_o be_v not_o do_v so_o oft_o as_o that_o the_o do_v of_o it_o may_v be_v call_v a_o use_n as_o if_o he_o have_v say_v no_o such_o thing_n be_v come_v up_o or_o grow_v into_o use_n or_o to_o be_v a_o use_n then_o be_v his_o say_n clear_o reconcileable_a with_o what_o we_o say_v for_o we_o contend_v but_o for_o the_o do_v of_o it_o on_o some_o occasion_n not_o for_o its_o be_v the_o use_n so_o to_o do_v and_o methinks_v his_o say_n that_o no_o such_o thing_n be_v use_v many_o age_n after_o the_o apostle_n must_v needs_o enforce_v that_o to_o be_v his_o meaning_n for_o mr._n mede_n be_v too_o know_v a_o person_n in_o antiquity_n to_o be_v ignorant_a of_o it_o that_o such_o a_o thing_n as_o sprinkle_v or_o rhantism_n be_v do_v within_o few_o age_n after_o the_o apostle_n and_o particular_o st._n cyprian_n epistle_n to_o magnus_n must_v needs_o tell_v he_o it_o be_v do_v in_o the_o three_o though_o he_o know_v it_o be_v not_o come_v so_o soon_o to_o be_v the_o use_n and_o if_o that_o be_v his_o meaning_n then_o be_v his_o word_n nothing_o at_o all_o to_o the_o purpose_n of_o mr._n d._n as_o speak_v but_o the_o same_o that_o we_o say_v if_o not_o i_o shall_v add_v no_o more_o but_o that_o quandoque_fw-la bone_fw-la dormitat_fw-la homerus_fw-la it_o be_v a_o slip_n of_o his_o unwary_a pen_n whilst_o his_o thought_n be_v more_o intent_n upon_o other_o matter_n §_o 61._o chamier_n succeed_v mr._n mede_n one_o great_a man_n after_o another_o