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A62890 The rebels plea, or, Mr. Baxters judgment concerning the late wars in these particulars : viz. the originall of government, coordinate and legislative power in the two Houses, third estate, force upon the Houses in 1642, principles the Houses went by at the beginning, destructive to monarchy, covenant, reasons for submitting to the late government. Tomkins, Thomas, 1637?-1675. 1660 (1660) Wing T1838; ESTC R32811 35,816 50

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