Selected quad for the lemma: book_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
book_n	king_n	lord_n	people_n	3,378	5	4.9550	4	true

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
B15350	De adiaphoris Theological and scholastical positions, concerning the nature and vse of things indifferent. Where also is methodically and briefely handled, of ciuill and ecclesiasticall magistrates, of humane lawes, of Christian libertie, of scandall, and of the worship of God. A vowed worke, destinated (by the grace of God) to appease the dissentions of the Church of England. Written in Latine by M. Gabriel Powel, and translated into English by T.I.; De adiaphoris. English	Powel, Gabriel, 1576-1611.; Jackson, Thomas, 1579-1640, attributed name.; T. I., fl. 1607.	1607 (1607)	STC 20146; ESTC S101530	122,532	204

exercise_n of_o piety_n whether_o public_a or_o private_a or_o for_o the_o avoid_v of_o the_o scandal_n of_o the_o weak_a and_o for_o their_o conversion_n to_o the_o church_n and_o knowledge_n of_o the_o truth_n as_o we_o have_v say_v before_o 15_o civil_a law_n civil_a 2._o civil_a be_v the_o determination_n of_o circumstance_n necessary_a or_o profitable_a for_o the_o keep_n of_o the_o moral_a precept_n of_o the_o second_o table_n 16_o because_o they_o concern_v the_o conservation_n of_o order_n and_o comeliness_n in_o common_a life_n and_o civil_a society_n and_o of_o peace_n among_o man_n 17_o and_o albeit_o both_o the_o ecclesiastical_a and_o civil_a function_n be_v themselves_o both_o the_o function_n have_v all_o other_o subject_n unto_o themselves_o every_o one_o in_o regard_n of_o itself_o principal_a have_v all_o other_o function_n subordinate_a and_o subject_a thereunto_o yet_o be_v they_o distinguish_v one_o from_o another_o by_o certain_a bound_n and_o limit_n in_o the_o administration_n of_o the_o affair_n of_o religion_n 18_o for_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o church_n instruct_v the_o conscience_n of_o man_n by_o the_o word_n minister_n the_o minister_n whereunto_o the_o great_a magistrate_n be_v as_o well_o bind_v to_o harken_v and_o yield_v obedience_n as_o the_o inferior_a citizen_n of_o low_a degree_n 19_o and_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n take_v charge_n and_o care_n magistrate_n the_o magistrate_n that_o the_o word_n be_v true_o teach_v preach_v and_o receive_v punish_v with_o the_o external_a sword_n the_o violator_n and_o contemner_n of_o discipline_n whether_o they_o be_v minister_n or_o common_a people_n 20_o and_o this_o be_v certain_a office_n the_o ecclesiastical_a and_o civil_a function_n be_v distinct_a office_n that_o these_o two_o office_n or_o function_n be_v distinct_a and_o different_a one_o from_o the_o other_o which_o satan_n have_v marvelous_o confound_v in_o the_o papacy_n but_o we_o and_o all_o other_o good_a christian_n must_v watch_v diligent_o that_o they_o be_v not_o confound_v again_o 21_o from_o whence_o it_o arise_v well_o note_v well_o that_o one_o and_o the_o same_o person_n can_v be_v a_o bishop_n and_o a_o prince_n or_o king_n also_o a_o pastor_n and_o a_o master_n of_o a_o family_n for_o as_o these_o office_n be_v divide_v and_o sever_v so_o ought_v also_o the_o person_n to_o be_v 22_o and_o yet_o one_o man_n may_v undergo_v and_o bear_v both_o person_n person_n whether_o one_o and_o the_o same_o man_n may_v bear_v two_o person_n as_o the_o same_o n._n may_v be_v both_o a_o minister_n and_o a_o master_n of_o a_o family_n so_o n._n be_v one_o and_o the_o same_o man_n may_v be_v both_o duke_n of_o cornwall_n and_o archbishop_n of_o york_n and_o yet_o the_o duke_n of_o cornwall_n can_v be_v archbishop_n of_o york_n 23_o a_o bishop_n as_o he_o be_v bishop_n have_v no_o power_n over_o the_o church_n to_o impose_v any_o law_n tradition_n or_o ceremony_n without_o the_o consent_n thereof_o either_o express_a or_o imply_v 24_o because_o the_o church_n be_v a_o free_a lady_n or_o mistress_n and_o the_o bishop_n ought_v not_o to_o bear_v rule_n over_o the_o faith_n of_o the_o church_n nor_o to_o oppress_v or_o burden_n she_o against_o she_o will_n for_o they_o be_v the_o steward_n and_o minister_n of_o the_o church_n and_o not_o lord_n over_o the_o same_o 25_o but_o if_o the_o church_n do_v give_v her_o consent_n and_o join_v as_o one_o body_n with_o the_o bishop_n than_o they_o may_v impose_v what_o they_o please_v upon_o themselves_o provide_v it_o be_v not_o against_o the_o analogy_n of_o faith_n and_o so_o again_o omit_v and_o release_v the_o same_o at_o their_o own_o pleasure_n 26_o a_o bishop_n as_o he_o be_v a_o prince_n much_o less_o may_v burden_n the_o church_n with_o any_o constitution_n for_o this_o be_v to_o confound_v both_o office_n and_o to_o be_v indeed_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d i_o speak_v this_o of_o the_o church_n as_o it_o be_v a_o church_n and_o distinguish_v from_o the_o civil_a estate_n 27_o a_o bishop_n as_o he_o be_v a_o prince_n may_v impose_v whatsoever_o he_o think_v good_a upon_o his_o subject_n as_o they_o be_v subject_n and_o they_o be_v bind_v to_o yield_v obedience_n thereunto_o so_o it_o be_v godly_a and_o lawful_a for_o than_o they_o obey_v not_o as_o they_o be_v the_o church_n but_o as_o citizen_n and_o subject_n for_o there_o be_v a_o twofold_a person_n in_o one_o and_o the_o same_o man_n 28_o so_o n._n as_o he_o be_v duke_n of_o cornwall_n command_v all_o his_o subject_n to_o keep_v a_o general_a fast_o or_o any_o other_o such_o lawful_a thing_n this_o commandment_n constrain_v all_o they_o that_o acknowledge_v his_o power_n as_o he_o be_v duke_n to_o obedience_n but_o not_o all_o those_o which_o acknowledge_v he_o to_o be_v their_o archbishop_n namely_o which_o be_v subject_a to_o some_o other_o temporal_a duke_n or_o prince_n albeit_o they_o be_v of_o the_o province_n of_o york_n 29_o even_o as_o n._n compel_v his_o servant_n to_o be_v obedient_a unto_o his_o economical_a or_o domestic_a law_n and_o order_n but_o not_o his_o church_n n._n 30_o but_o to_o come_v near_o the_o point_n matter_n the_o office_n of_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n in_o ecclesiastical_a matter_n there_o be_v a_o threefold_a office_n of_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n in_o ecclesiastical_a affair_n first_o that_o after_o the_o example_n of_o david_n 1._o chron._n 16.27_o &_o he_o provide_v that_o true_a doctrine_n &_o the_o sincere_a worship_n of_o god_n may_v flourish_v in_o every_o part_n of_o his_o kingdom_n and_o that_o the_o church_n may_v be_v right_o settle_v and_o govern_v by_o able_a and_o sufficient_a person_n 31_o the_o second_o office_n be_v that_o the_o magistrate_n do_v by_o his_o public_a authority_n approve_v &_o establish_v that_o order_n which_o be_v ordain_v by_o god_n himself_o for_o this_o end_n and_o purpose_n even_o as_o the_o godly_a king_n jehoshaphat_n destroy_v the_o grove_n and_o take_v away_o the_o high_a place_n out_o of_o juda_n and_o send_v his_o noble_n with_o the_o priest_n and_o levite_n through_o all_o his_o kingdom_n with_o the_o book_n of_o the_o law_n which_o they_o have_v that_o they_o may_v go_v about_o all_o the_o city_n of_o juda_n and_o teach_v the_o same_o to_o all_o the_o people_n 2._o chron._n 17.6_o 32_o so_o also_o ezekias_n send_v letter_n and_o messenger_n into_o all_o israel_n to_o call_v they_o to_o the_o house_n of_o the_o lord_n at_o jerusalem_n to_o offer_v the_o passeover_n to_o jehovah_n the_o god_n of_o israel_n 2._o chro._n 30.2_o etc._n etc._n 33_o and_o so_o nehemiah_n cause_v the_o book_n of_o the_o law_n to_o be_v read_v in_o the_o ear_n of_o the_o people_n and_o according_a to_o the_o law_n therein_o contain_v he_o separate_v and_o put_v away_o all_o the_o strange_a wife_n which_o the_o israelite_n have_v marry_v contrary_a to_o the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n nehem._n 13.1_o etc._n etc._n 34_o the_o three_o office_n be_v that_o they_o provide_v that_o all_o those_o thing_n which_o do_v appertain_v to_o god_n and_o concern_v the_o conscience_n of_o man_n be_v administer_v only_o by_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o church_n and_o yet_o themselves_o ought_v to_o assist_v and_o defend_v the_o ministry_n with_o their_o presence_n counsel_n protection_n and_o authority_n so_o as_o there_o may_v be_v a_o conjunction_n and_o not_o a_o confusion_n of_o both_o these_o order_n and_o function_n 35_o according_a to_o the_o rule_n and_o counsel_n of_o david_n to_o his_o son_n solomon_n when_o he_o exhort_v he_o to_o the_o care_n and_o charge_n of_o build_v the_o temple_n and_o also_o of_o provide_v for_o the_o holy_a worship_n of_o god_n 1._o chro._n 28.21_o let_v all_o the_o priest_n and_o levit_n be_v with_o thou_o in_o all_o the_o ministry_n of_o the_o house_n of_o god_n 36_o the_o sum_n brief_o be_v the_o civil_a magistrate_n be_v the_o keeper_n of_o the_o law_n of_o god_n for_o so_o much_o as_o concern_v the_o outward_a discipline_n that_o the_o difference_n betwixt_o the_o ministry_n of_o the_o gospel_n and_o the_o magistracy_n may_v always_o be_v preserve_v 37_o the_o ministry_n of_o the_o gospel_n propon_v the_o gospel_n of_o grace_n whereby_o the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v effectual_a in_o the_o believer_n as_o it_o be_v 2._o cor._n 3.6_o he_o have_v make_v we_o able_a minister_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n not_o of_o the_o letter_n but_o of_o the_o spirit_n 38_o and_o yet_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n the_o magistrate_n have_v his_o outward_a office_n for_o the_o repress_v of_o all_o scandal_n for_o forbid_v idolatry_n as_o well_o as_o adultery_n and_o murder_n which_o thing_n be_v notable_o manifest_v by_o s._n paul_n say_v the_o law_n be_v give_v against_o the_o unrighteous_a profane_a and_o despiser_n of_o god_n and_o the_o same_o apostle_n call_v this_o the_o lawful_a use_n

of_o deprivation_n so_o give_v in_o the_o ecclesiastical_a court_n which_o cause_v i_o the_o more_o to_o marvel_v at_o the_o impudency_n and_o presumption_n of_o the_o refractory_a faction_n that_o contradict_v all_o the_o judge_n and_o traduce_v all_o such_o sentence_n as_o unjust_a unlawful_a etc._n etc._n that_o which_o follow_v concern_v the_o statute_n of_o magna_fw-la charta_fw-la and_o the_o lawfulness_n of_o the_o deprivation_n of_o the_o refractory_a minister_n for_o not_o conform_v themselves_o &c._n &c._n require_v no_o far_a answer_n see_v the_o defender_n himself_o pag._n 93._o confess_v such_o deprivation_n to_o be_v just_a and_o according_a to_o law_n defender_n deprivation_n for_o non-conformitie_n grant_v lawful_a by_o the_o defender_n say_v hereupon_o we_o grant_v that_o if_o the_o king_n have_v any_o ecclesiastical_a law_n of_o the_o land_n which_o thing_n be_v never_o doubt_v by_o any_o man_n for_o the_o deprivation_n of_o a_o minister_n from_o his_o liberty_n and_o freehold_n for_o not_o subscription_n perjury_n contempt_n of_o canonical_a so_o call_v obedience_n omission_n of_o rite_n and_o ceremony_n not_o precise_a observation_n of_o the_o book_n of_o common_a prayer_n etc._n etc._n then_o we_o grant_v that_o the_o ordinary_n be_v the_o king_n judge_n ecclesiastical_a may_v right_o deprive_v a_o minister_n from_z his_o benefice_n for_o these_o offence_n yet_o i_o can_v but_o wonder_v at_o the_o giddiness_n of_o the_o defender_n spirit_n where_o he_o seem_v express_o to_o deny_v what_o here_o he_o confess_v notwithstanding_o say_v he_o i_o affirm_v that_o all_o judicial_a act_n and_o sentence_n how_o many_o soever_o of_o deprivation_n of_o minister_n from_o their_o benefice_n have_v make_v and_o give_v by_o the_o ecclesiastical_a judge_n since_o the_o 25._o of_o king_n henry_n the_o 8._o only_a according_a or_o only_o by_o force_n and_o virtue_n of_o the_o say_v ius_n pontificium_fw-la or_o bishop_n of_o rome_n his_o law_n the_o sentence_n give_v in_o the_o time_n of_o queen_n mary_n except_v be_v and_o aught_o to_o be_v hold_v not_o to_o be_v have_v make_v and_o give_v by_o the_o law_n of_o this_o kingdom_n or_o by_o the_o king_n ecclesiastical_a law_n and_o why_o even_o because_o the_o whole_a ius_n pontificium_fw-la or_o bishop_n of_o rome_n law_n be_v altogether_o except_v the_o time_n of_o queen_n mary_n abrogate_a annul_v and_o make_v void_a by_o a_o act_n of_o parliament_n and_o consequent_o be_v but_o a_o mere_a alien_n foreign_a and_o strange_a law_n and_o no_o municipal_a law_n of_o england_n and_o therefore_o not_o the_o king_n ecclesiastical_a law_n i_o answer_v i._o the_o defender_n have_v be_v a_o good_a anuocate_v for_o bloody_a boner_n and_o other_o popish_a prelate_n that_o be_v deprive_v in_o the_o day_n of_o that_o renown_a prince_n king_n edward_n the_o vi_o and_o also_o in_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o reign_n of_o our_o late_a noble_a queen_n for_o all_o the_o lawyer_n in_o england_n be_v not_o then_o able_a to_o espy_v what_o now_o the_o defender_n plain_o see_v except_o his_o eye_n deceive_v he_o ii_o the_o deprivation_n of_o the_o refractory_a minister_n for_o non-conformitie_n be_v ground_v not_o upon_o the_o canon_n law_n but_o upon_o the_o express_a word_n of_o the_o statute_n of_o 1._o eliz._n cap._n 2._o all_o and_o singular_a archbishop_n and_o bishop_n etc._n etc._n shall_v have_v full_a power_n and_o authority_n by_o virtue_n of_o this_o act_n &c._n &c._n to_o punish_v by_o admonition_n excommunication_n sequestration_n or_o deprivation_n etc._n etc._n iii_o it_o be_v not_o true_a that_o the_o canon_n law_n be_v every_o yet_o abrogate_a how_o far_o the_o canon_n law_n be_v abrogate_a or_o be_v now_o altogether_o abrogate_a annul_v and_o make_v void_a by_o act_n of_o parliament_n and_o so_o consequent_o it_o be_v not_o a_o mere_a alien_n foreign_a and_o strange_a law_n but_o be_v the_o law_n of_o the_o land_n yea_o and_o the_o king_n ecclesiastical_a law_n as_o be_v manifest_a by_o the_o very_a word_n of_o the_o statute_n which_o the_o defender_n will_v have_v point_v at_o 25._o h._n 8._o cap._n 19_o in_o fine_a provide_v also_o that_o such_o canon_n constitution_n ordinance_n and_o synodal_n provincial_a be_v already_o make_v which_o be_v not_o contrariant_n nor_o repugnant_a to_o the_o law_n statute_n and_o custom_n of_o this_o realm_n nor_o to_o the_o damage_n or_o hurt_v of_o the_o king_n prerogative_n royal_a shall_v now_o still_o be_v use_v and_o execute_a as_o they_o be_v afore_o the_o make_n of_o this_o act._n and_o in_o the_o 21._o chapter_n more_o plain_o 25._o h._n 8._o cap._n 21._o non_fw-fr longè_fw-la à_fw-fr princip_n where_o this_o your_o grace_n realm_n recognise_v no_o superior_a under_o god_n but_o only_o your_o grace_n have_v be_v &_o be_v free_a from_o all_o subjection_n to_o any_o man_n law_n but_o only_o to_o such_o as_o have_v be_v devise_v make_v and_o ordain_v within_o this_o realm_n for_o the_o wealth_n of_o the_o same_o nw_n nw_n or_o to_o such_o other_o as_o by_o sufferance_n of_o your_o grace_n and_o your_o progenitor_n the_o people_n of_o this_o your_o realm_n have_v take_v at_o their_o free_a liberty_n by_o their_o own_o consent_n to_o be_v use_v among_o they_o and_o have_v bind_v themselves_o by_o long_a use_n and_o custom_n to_o the_o observance_n of_o the_o same_o not_o as_o to_o the_o ordinance_n of_o the_o law_n of_o any_o foreign_a prince_n potentate_n or_o prelate_n but_o as_o to_o the_o custom_a and_o ancient_a law_n of_o this_o realm_n nw_n nw_n original_o establish_v as_o law_n of_o the_o same_o by_o the_o say_a sufferance_n consent_n and_o custom_n and_o none_o otherwise_o it_o stand_v therefore_o with_o natural_a equity_n and_o good_a reason_n that_o all_o and_o every_o such_o law_n humane_a make_v within_o this_o realm_n or_o induce_v into_o this_o realm_n by_o the_o say_a sufferance_n consent_n and_o custom_n your_o royal_a majesty_n etc._n etc._n thus_o far_o the_o word_n of_o the_o statute_n both_o which_o act_v be_v repeal_v by_o queen_n mary_n be_v reviue_v again_o by_o queen_n elizabeth_n 1._o eliz._n cap._n 1._o in_o princip_n and_o so_o stand_v in_o force_n at_o this_o day_n the_o defender_n long_o and_o tedious_a digression_n touch_v the_o oath_n ex_fw-la officio_fw-la a_o point_n learned_o handle_v by_o m._n doctor_n cousin_n in_o his_o apology_n whereunto_o i_o refer_v the_o reader_n and_o also_o concern_v the_o canon_n it_o be_v to_o wearisome_a unto_o the_o reader_n here_o to_o refute_v neither_o have_v i_o such_o leisure_n to_o follow_v he_o in_o his_o idle_a and_o addle_n discourse_n but_o have_v determine_v precise_o to_o keep_v myself_o within_o the_o bound_n prescribe_v by_o the_o suppliant_n linquo_fw-la coax_fw-la ranis_fw-la etc._n etc._n ix_o argument_n god_n do_v ever_o plentiful_o recompense_v any_o kindness_n show_v unto_o his_o child_n supplicat_fw-la supplicat_fw-la special_o unto_o the_o minister_n and_o disciple_n of_o christ_n 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