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A95027	Something in answer to two late malitious libels of William Rogers; intituled, the sixth and eighth part of his (falsly so called) Christian-Quaker, &c. : Being a further caution to Friends, to take heed of that treacherous spirit that is entered into William Rogers and his abettors. : Who under the profession of primitive truth, are betraying it to the world ... / Published for the clearing of truth against William Rogers's lies and slanders ... C.T.	Taylor, Christopher, ca. 1615-1686.; Rogers, William, d. ca. 1709. Christian-Quaker distinguished from the apostate & innovator. Part 6.; Rogers, William, d. ca. 1709. Christian-Quaker distinguished from the apostate & innovator. Part 8.	1682 (1682)	Wing T265; ESTC R184889	30,402	42

Something in ANSWER To Two late MALITIOUS LIBELS of William Rogers Intituled The Sixth and Eighth part of his falsly so called Christian-Quaker c. Being a further Caution to FRIENDS To take heed of that Treacherous Spirit that is entered into WILLIAM ROGERS and his Abettors Who under the Profession of Primitive Truth are betraying it to the World and puting truths Lambs into their Bearskins for the World to Worry because they have no power to do it themselves who have published their wicked Books in Askalon the fire of their Infamy and have told it in Gath the Wine Press to press out their sower Grapes to set the Peoples teeth on Edge against the Lambs of God Published for the Clearing of Truth against William Rogers's Lies and Slanders and for the Information of the simple-minded that they may not be insnared by the Crafts and Wiles of Satan through such fallen Antichristian Instruments as William Rogers and such as are Entered into the same Malitious Spirit with him C. T. 2 Tim. 3. v. 8. Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses so do these also resist the Truth Men of Corrupt minds Reprobate concerning the Faith V. 9. But they shall proceed no further their folly shall be manifest to all Men as theirs also was V. 13. But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse deceiving and being deceived London Printed for John Bringhurst Printer and Stationer at the Sign of the Book in Grace-Church-Street 1682. AN ANSWER TO William Rogers William Rogers I Have read something in thy two Books called the sixth and eighth part of thy Book called The Christian Quaker reflecting upon me at a gross abusive rate because I withstood thee in Print in thy Printing that malicious Book called by thee The Christian Quaker c. And good ground I had to withstand thee as I did For reading in thy Book I understood thy drift intent to be to render dear G.F. by Name several others dragged by their Names in thy Book with my self included and indeed all Friends who are in Unity with us who are the Church of Christ to be Apostates and Innovators and thy self with thy Adherents to be the Christian-Quakers in thy false sence as plainly appears in thy Book which I suppose thou wilt not deny So this being the true state of the case we must either submit to thee or thou and those of thy Spirit to us But that we are Apostates or Innovators that is Revolters Backsliders from the Truth deserters of our Guide and Captain Christ Iesus And Innovators or such as bring in new things into the Church and alter or contradict the true Government and State of it we utterly deny and reject thy false Charge and all that are concerned with thee And my Charge from God upon thee is true Thou art of a Rebellious Mind and standest up as Korah and his Company did against Gods faithful and true Servants who have and do keep their Habitations in the Truth to this day And thou art of a slanderous Tongue and void of a good Understanding How long wilt thou pervert the Truth in thy gainsayings and stand in opposition to the Lords power and reject Gods pure Counsel to thee through his Servants and their tender desires for thee which sometimes have reached thy Conscience But take heed lest thy Rum come and there be none to help thee And when thy work is over without Repentance with Judas thou go to thy proper place What adoe thou makest because I have quoted no particular sentence out of thy Book but in the general as in my Title Page and other places I have given the Reader to understand that the matter of my Charge against thee is in thy Book called The Christian-Quaker c. These are my words in the Title Page To Friends To take heed of that Treacherous Spirit that is entred into William Rogers and his Abettors as appears in his Book falsely called The Christian Quaker And if the ground of my Charge against thee be not the ground of thy Book and in thy Book over and over then I have erred and am not to be believed But thou canst not justly deny nor any of thy Abettors but that thou hast rendred us aforementioned to be both Apostates and Innovators and if thou dost deny it thou dost overthrow the foundation of thy Book And none need to pin their Faith on my Sleeve to believe this but in the Light of Christ to Read See and Believe for themselves in this matter And to thy wicked Book I refer the Reader whether this be not the main Subject of it and so is notorious false and blasphemous Read Rev. 2.9 I know the Blasphemy of them which say they are Iews and are not but are of the Synagogue of Satan This is become thy condition who callest thy self a Christian Quaker but indeed art of the Synagogue of Satan that Adversary And what if I have neither particularly quoted Part nor Page of thy Book yet what I affirm is true Unto which for proof of what I say I refer the Reader to thy Book and justifie my Charge against thee and Charge thee with Rebellion and gainsaying the Truth and Power of God in his faithful Servants For we Charge thee in the Presence of God and before his Angels and Men to be a false Accuser of the Brethren and to be guided by a malicious evil Spirit And now as for my not quoting Part and Page out of thy Book I did not go about particularly to Answer thy Book but to bear my Testimony against thee not to be of God in that Spirit thou writ it And in Rev. 2.15 is spoken by John of the Doctrine of the Nicolaitans which he hated and quotes not what that Doctrine was nor Chapter nor Verse and yet is not reflected on as not to be believed in one word he speaks c. And whereas thou quotest something out of the third Page in my Book and quarrel'st with the two last words for ever because I say To the Praise of his Name for ever having before spoken of the Lords eminent Instruments in his Hand as dear G. F. and others opposed by W. R. as Apostates and Innovators Thou sayest by the words for ever If I mean G. F. that is to the Praise of G. F.'s Name for ever Then thou sayest I should have added so and so c. And so bringest in several ●fs and runnest with thy Horns especially against G. F. But this is quibling and scurrilous and catching according to the Nature of the Spirit thou art led by For who will take it so But to put all out of doubt for the sake of the simple it is to be read according to my Mind and Meaning To the Praise of the Lords Name for ever Now William These foolish things from a perverse and malicious Airy Mind thou hast been Publishing and telling as in Gath and Askalon that the uncircumcised Priests

nor believe Nay William thou and you are seen and your wicked work is weighed in the Ballance of Truth and found too light and Woe and Misery from God will be your Portion except you Repent Your Nakedness doth appear for want of anointing your eyes with eye-salve that you might see c. For truly since you went from the Light of Christ by which you were convinced by which all God's People are now at this day kept in Unity I do plainly see with that eye-salve God hath given me that you are got into a Spirit of Rudeness Lightness Scornfulness and despising those that truly fear the Lord so that it is enough to convince every sober-minded person what Spirit you are led and acted by that they may see with the Light of Christ how you are fallen from the pure truth of the Gospel into Looseness like so many Way-marks for God's people to shun c. W. R. Thou makest a great Pudder and muddlest thy head about our Orders in part 8. p. 5. and twice in pag. 6. And about outward prescriptions in the same Page twice and pag. 10. there thou art at it again and speakest of Decrees and Prescriptions twice over then pag. 13. thou art at it again c. Answ But William why dost thou make such a confused noise about our Orders as though thy Head was amazed And dost so worry them with thy muddled Head that thou hast not been able to give a perfect list of them though it has been of thee demanded What those Orders are that our Friends have imposed upon you For with thy own muddled Head thou thinkest to muddle others Heads with thy making a noise about our Orders Prescriptions Decrees and Government but neither thou nor J. S. nor J. Wilkinson have yet given a full and particular Account of them what they are and stated them aright with the day when and the Year they were given forth that people might have seen them together with a Catalogue of thy own I. Wilkinson's and I. Story 's Decrees and Orders what they are thou shouldst have brought them forth that people might have seen them and been able to judge of them So give over thy making a Noise and Clamouring and Brawling against our Orders Prescriptions and Decrees as long as thou dost not discover them all to the people what they are that people may not be deceived by thee and pin their Faith on thy Sleeve for in this thy empty work thou hast but been beating the Air. And as for the Fruits of a Careless Loose Libertine Dark Spirit W. R. with all his I●'s in all his Writings hath not proved against G. F. but hath manifested them to be the Fruits of his own Spirit whose Tongue is become no slander nor words of any Credit with them that fear the Lord. And J. Wilkinson and W. Rogers have not answer'd G. F's Question yet though W. R. be at it again in his 8th part pag. 8. viz. Whether or no an Heavenly Member of Christ's Body that is such as are born again of the Spirit and of the Immortal seed by the word of God turns to Dust Yea or Nay For G. F's Query was not about an Earthly Member nor an Earthly Corruptible Body but an Heavenly Member Part 8. pag. 2 3. W. R. says It 's the duty of some c. to pin their Faith on the sleeves of C. T. c. Again This small Tract is now written for the sakes of such among the people called Quakers as are not yet Principle'd to pin their Faith upon other mens sleeves Answ Are not the spreaders and the sellers of W. R's malitious Books the pinners of their Faith upon his sleeve And yet they are so confused that they will not stand by him in it But it was always my Judgment to Judge such as Pin their Faith upon thy sleeve or J. S's or J. W's or upon any else For the Faith of God's Elect stands in Christ the Author and Finisher of it And what need was there that any one that reads my Book against thee should pin their Faith on my slieve But W. R. hast not thou Judged us often over in thy malitious slanderous Book to be Apostates and Innovators Was not this a just ground for me to declare thee to be of Korahs Spirit and of Cains Line And if thou hast not in thy Book rendred us such as Apostates and Innovators unto which I refer the Reader then clear thy self if thou canst or else the Burthen of my words in my Testimony against thee in that Spirit thou writ that Book must certainly lie upon thee And herein I have not wronged thee I affirm it and still charge thee in the same true Judgment to be of Korahs and Cains Line to be sealed down under Eternal Judgment and Condemnation from God for ever except thou Repent and we stand over thee in the Authority of God's Power and of such as Abet to thee and adhere to thee in that Malitious Proud and Lofty Spirit thou art entred into W. R. saith part 8. pag. 5. That 't was safer to have a Dependency on this measure of Christs Light in our selves than to have an Eye out to the measures of others Answ Hath not W. R. shewed his Darkness and theirs that incouraged him to Print his Book For can any see the measure of the Spirit of Christ and his Light in others but by the measure of the Spirit of God in themselves in which they come into Unity But where did ever either I or any of our faithful Brethren bring any to look and have a Dependency upon the Measure in others and neglect the measure of the Spirit of God in themselves by which they should be guided to become the Sons and Daughters of God This was never our Principle but thou wouldst insinuate such a thing W. R. And in Part 8. pag. 10. thou speakest of a Visible man to be an Eye to see for the rest of the Body and pag. 11. thou bringest the same and Part 6. pag. 16. thou art muddling thy head again about the same thing and tellest of a late Doctrine viz. Have your Eye to the Brethren And sayst further The substance of this Doctrine hath of late been publish'd also in Publick Meetings c. As in the Natural Body the Eye is placed to see for all the rest of the Members so also in the Spiritual and hath been explained so as it hath been sometimes taken that G. F. is an Eye for the whole Body and other times as if some other Persons were an Eye for a Meeting c. Answ But who have publish'd these Doctrines whom thou hast so backbited in Print thou hast not named their names so must I pin my Faith on thy slieve for the proof thereof But hath not my Caution to the simple-hearted that they should not be deceived by thy lying slanderous Book tormented thee and thy Spirit because of thy wicked Works

not mention here all men but says before them all who were them all were they not them that were present for here is not the Word Men in this verse and the Reader may see that W. R has manifestly wronged and falsifyed the Scripture here And W. R. goes about to confirm it and saith If any say Paul did not Publish it in Gath and Askalon To this He saith I Answer that from the 14th verse of the 2d chap. to the Gal. we learn that Paul's Reproof was before all Men. But W. R. and his we have not learn't this from that Scripture neither did W. R. learn there that he should Publish his Book in Gath and Askalon neither that Paul Publisht that which he blamed Peter for in Gath and Askalon which thou Fallaciously bringest to cover thy Spirit but instead of covering thy self thou hast tumbled thy self over and over in the Dirt and shewed thy own Nakedness W. R. says Part 6. pag. 5. T is frequently brought to my Ears that our Opposers common discourse is that I have written a wicked Book against the faithful Friends of Truth that if all I had therein written were true yet the Spirit that gave it forth must be wrong and the same with Hams because it discovers the Nakedness of a Father Answ But if therein he alludes to the 5th Page of my Book he perverts my Words and the Intent of them for I do not say it discovers the Nakedness of a Father as he hath Malitiously Writ but my Words are these That W. R. hath endeavoured to uncover the Nakedness of such as once he accounted his Brethren and Elders or Fathers whom God hath cloathed For thou hast not neither canst thou uncover the Nakedness of such Brethren and Elders or Fathers to present them Naked to the View of the whole World by Publishing of thy Book so that herein thou hast really done worse then Ham for he wickedly and really uncovered his Fathers Nakedness but thou wickedly endeavourest to do it or so to present it to the View of the World to make the Uncircumcised rejoyce so that thy Sin herein is doubled for thou hast represented the thing which really is not so in it self that is they are not Naked but Cloathed with Gods Righteousness whom thou hast represented to be Naked but hast discovered thy own Nakedness and herein thou hast exceeded Ham who discovered a real Nakedness And also thy malice and wickedness in it hath exceeded his whose work as I said in mine may be said to have been a hasty rash Action done on a sudden without premeditation but thou hast long premeditated and laboured to bring forth thy wicked Book in Print and endeavourest to betray and deceive Peoples minds that they may believe thy Lies Juggling and Legerdemain in this matter Christopher Tayler Postscript SInce these Sheets were written I have seen three Printed Sheets from one Thomas Crisp a man outwardly unknown to me but that he is of an evil Spirit I know well and as I am credibly Informed he is one of the old Apostate Quakers that went out from Truth many Years since for they say he was once convinced of it but never since had the happiness because of his evil heart to return into it again as I am informed but went on still backwards more and more and was Married by a Priest and pleads for Gods allowance to him in so doing by his Spirit and also pleads for the liberty of paying Tythes by the allowance of Gods Spirit and also for the use of the Language Truth disowns as in the second Part of Babels Builders p. 5. and in all this would cover himself under the Notion and Profession of one of his Brother William Rogers his Christian Quakers Now let the Christian Reader consider whether those aforementioned were the Principles of our Ancient Friends and Brethren who came forth in the beginning in the great Authority and Power of God and doth not this envious Spirited man appear still to be in his Apostacy from the Truth doth not his Language and Principles bewray him to be no friend to the truly Christian Quaker And it may be he thinks now he hath a grand opportunity by his joyning with his Brethren W. R. J. Pennyman c. in their Rebellion and gainsaying the Truth to become a kind of dark sect-master amongst their so called Christian Quakers but they are blind indeed who cannot see such an Idle-headed Apostate as this man is who would draw Disciples after him by reproaching Gods Truth and People His three Sheets are by him called the second and third Part of Babels Builders c. wherein his Idle brain hath been at work and he hath used my name or the Letters of it eight or nine times over And his Text against me it seems is out of the 3d page of my Epistle of Caution c. where speaking of dear G. F. abused by W. R. I affirm that still he is made Instrumental in the hand of the Lord to bring forth blessed things for the service of God and his Truth from the Oracles of the Divine Breath c. This T. C. cannot endure to hear of no more than his Brother W. R. because they would have him and thousands more that fear the Lord to be accounted Apostates and so render them dead and their Divine breath stopt and so altogether uncapable to bring forth blessed things for the Service of God and his Truth but that is certainly their own Condition speaking perverse things in a heady wilful mind against such as through the Grace of God have kept the true faith of Gods Elect who cannot be deceived by their speaking perverse things against us but now Reader observe his forgery in his 2d page speaking of our Idol G. F. his Laws and would insinuate those he calls G. F. his Laws to be an Idol and me to be an Idolator to Adore them as from the Oracles of the Divine breath and in the 4th page he speaks of my having given G. F. unfitting titles and names but tells not what they are and in the 12th page he is highly offended that I should affirm that G. F. c. are the best among the Quakers or the best of Gods servants see his base foolish Spirit what has this T. C. W. R. J. P. c. done in their time for God in his service have they ever been Instrumental to turn one person to Righteousness since they were called Quakers or when did any of them Print any thing for God before they begun to push with their horns against us Now they are become Champions such as they are to draw from the Truth into their own Condition who are Apostatiz'd from it as much as in them lies and so are the Ministers of the Devil and Antichrist like ravening evening Wolves and Bears they wait to meet with their Prey and devour the Righteous seed but God will confound them and their wicked design and

we trample in the power of God upon their evil Spirit if they do their worst And as Christ Jesus said to Judas that Traytor That thou dost do quickly so that they do let them do quickly that when they have done their wicked work without repentance they may go to their proper place And as for my adoreing G. F. and his Laws it is an ignorant sottish Idle Childish Story I knew before thou T. C. W. R. I Pennyman were called Quakers how to Adore and Worship the true and living God and stil do know how to love and dearly to esteem such Ancient Elders and Friends as were and are still Instrumental to bring forth blessed things for the service of God and his Truth and this is done by a Divine breath c. and thus to affirm is neither to Adore or Worship Men or Things but to Assert the Truth which thou hast not disproved with thy scandalous lying breath and thy lyes and slanders are detected and I charged thee to make thy charge good wherein I am such an one as Adore G. F. and his laws as thou calls them bring thy proof or eat thy words for thou hast grossly perverted mine as the Reader may see and the least thing that 's done by the weakest Instrument in obedience to God's Will is by a Divine Spirit or Breath which thou scoffs at and falsely callest it Adoring or worshiping G. F and his laws c. and I lay it upon thee when thou Prints again to set down this Idol what it is and such as thou calls G. F his laws set down a Catalogue of them all for people will not else I hope be satisfied to pin their Faith on thy or thy brethrens sleeves to believe your bawlings against them as if they were some mishapen Monstrous things Now T. Crisp I must tell thee thy cause is naught and thy brethrens also and thy and your Battle of Wickedness will come to an end and I pray God preserve his People unto himself from your muttering peeping Counsels who lye in wait to destroy the simple-minded with your Craft and Wickedness and this is my Testimony that your Work is wicked and the God of Heaven is highly displeased with you and if I should never more in my native Country appear in Print or however I may in this outwatd World be disposed on I say I affirm in the presence of God that thou T. C. W. R. J. Pennyman and all the rest who in their hearts and souls have resolutely Espoused your Cause against G. F. and thousands others both Elders and Friends of Truth that though for a while the Lord may suffer you as an exercise and tryal to his People yet your wicked Rebellion and gainsaying will come to an end and except it be possible you can find a place of Repentance your end will be miserable and this Testimony I leave behind me however the merciful good and most gracious God may dispose of me Oh! my native Country how dear is my love to thee Praying that the Lords holy Truth may still prevail in thee and that my Friends and Brethren in the Truth may be kept faithful in it that his Glory may still arise and his Power prevail so that this Nation may be as a Nursery to the Nations about it to send forth Rigbteous and Faithful Plants with success into his Vineyard that thousands and ten thousands may be alarm'd by the sound of Truth to come out of their Graves of sin and unbelief to the Resurrection and Salvation of Jesus Christ Amen The 8th of the 9th Month 1681. Thomas Crisp said That he hath paid Tithes lately and that the Spirit of God did or might allow him to pay Tithes or Marry by a Priest And that by the same Spirit of God another might be required not to pay them or not to do the same things This Thomas Crisp spoke the day and Year abovesaid and consented to have it Writ and Printed and took a Copy of the aforesaid Words Witness John Field Jun. See what an Agent W. R. J. Story and J. Wilkinson have gotten who is a false wicked perverter of the Truth and of Friends Ancient Testimonies in the Truth in the beginning Oh monstruos To set the Spirit of the Living God against it self Did we ever thirty years since and since to this day Preach for Doctrine and tell People The Spirit of God did or might allow them to pay Tithes or Marry by a Priest and that by the same Spirit of God another might be required not to pay them or not to do the same things Here the Reader may see their Confusion and Blasphemy against Gods Spirit and Truth what they would be at under the Pretence of Liberty so that at the last for ought I know they may commit gross Evils which Truth Condemns and say It is their Liberty and God allows them to do it by his Spirit though others may be Judged for it And so by this wicked principle usher in all manner of Ranterism Alas how miserably blind are those that cannot discern these mens wicked and ungodly design how mad and wicked they are to make void the Cross of Christ and wrest the Truth to serve the Turn of their own Licentious Spirits and Carnal Minds And I doubt not but some of these Brawlers against us are got too far with their Liberty into the Ditch already to their own destruction who do not deserve the name of a Quaker And now at this time when we are expos'd to great sufferings by Imprisonments spoiling of Goods c. for these Apostates T. C. W. R. and their Adherents to be so malitious as at such a time as this to render us Odious to the World by spreading and Printing their defaming lying and slanderous Books against us All sober Readers may see how the malitious mask is taken off these Babel-builders and so their Spirit is seen to be the same with those old Apostates that are gone before them And that they do but hypocritically deceive People in pretending themselves to be Quakers who are none nor Children of the Light as may be seen by their Books and Principles And from that meek Spirit of Life and Truth they are gone and under pretence of exalting Christ and his Kingdom they are exalting self and with it are opposing the Order of the Gospel and the Law of the Spirit of Life which is in Christ Jesus and their wicked Spirit and Work is to be Judged out of the Camp of God John Story being asked why he did not hinder William Rogers from Printing his great wicked Book against us in my hearing he Answered That William Rogers was such a Strong Willful Man that if he set upon a thing he would do it if all the World set against him So that W. R. may see what Esteem J. S. his great Elder and Brother had of him if he spake not in Hypocricy at that time And W. R. what