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A41618 Papists protesting against Protestant-popery in answer to a discourse entituled, A papist not mis-represented by Protestants : being a vindication of The papist mis-represented and represented, and the reflections upon the answer. Gother, John, d. 1704. 1686 (1686) Wing G1340; ESTC R227532 21,123 40

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passage for its monstrous extravagancies through the Narrow way then for those of Barbary and Turky The Popery this Author describes seems to me a flat Contradiction to the Commandments and the Gospel and the Professors of it can have no other portion then with Idolaters Murderers and Adulterers whose Eternity is to be in utter darkness He declares plainly that Popery is really that Antichristian Religion which Protestants say it is that it teaches and practices all those Fopperies Superstitions and Non-sence which have been at any time charg'd against it by Protestants His very Title of A Papist not Mis-represented by Protestants is a condemnation of the Religion to all those horrid shapes and monstrous forms it has been at any time expos'd in by Members of the Reformation He tells his Reader in the name of all his Brethren We charge them the Papists with nothing but what they expresly profess to believe and what they practice And in this one Assertion vouches for the Truth of all that Infamy and prophaness which is laid at their doors And so gives assurance that their complaint of being Mis-represented is but vain and idle for that what they call a Mis-representation is in reality a Representation in all the material Points of the avow'd Doctrine and Practice of the Church of Rome That the Papist Represented excepting some very few cases professes to believe all that the Papist Mis-represented is charg'd with This the best and wisest Men he says viz. of the Reformation have believ'd of them And in Fox's book of Martyrs we read how many were burnt for not believing as the Papist Mis-represented believes This is the General Character of a Papist according to the freshest and most Modern draught of our Adversary So that now to receive a true information of the Papist's Creed we are not to consult the Council of Trent or the Catechism ad Parochos but the writings and Sermons of Protestants For however Papists may not know what they believe themselves yet Protestants give a true and exact account of them and are so far Infallible that the Papists certainly are what they say they are believe what they say they believe since they charge them with nothing but what they expresly profess to believe and what they practice Upon the assurance of this Affidavit me-thinks 't will not be amiss here to receive the satisfaction of knowing what a Papist really is and what he certainly believes beyond the possibility of all exception For since all that proceeds from a Popish hand of this nature is suspected and challeng'd and the double Character of a Papist Mis-represented and Represented about which as the Repliers says there is so much pother and noise is questioned as to its Method its Sincerity and exactness we 'l now follow our Authors call and learn what Popery is from the Pens of Protestants and especially from some of those who are supposed to know what Popery is but for the bad man which the Replier excepts against we 'l make no advantage of him but let a better Man take his room What Papists are according to the Character given by the most Reverend Father John sometime Lord Archbishop of York in his Book Written for the use of a Lady to preserve her from the danger of Popery where he brings in a Papist thus declaring the Belief and Doctrine of his Church WE must Believe the Church of Rome whether it teach true or false If the Pope Believe there is no Life to come we must Believe it as an Article of our Faith We teach that the Gospel is but a Fable of Christ That the Pope can dispence against the New Testament that he may check when he pleases the Epistles of St. Paul and controul any thing avouched by all the Apostles That there is an eternal Gospel to wit that of the Holy Ghost which puts down Christs That Christ is the Saviour of Men only but of no Women For Women are saved by St. Clare and Mother Jane That we put away Mortal sins by becoming Franciscans by a Bishops Pardon for Forty days and a Cardinals for a Hundred and the Popes for Ever That to become a Monk or a Nun is as good as the Sacrament of Baptism That Whoredom is allowed all the Year long and another sin for June July August which you must not know Allowed for this time by Sixtus Quartus to all the Family of the Cardinals of St. Lucie That the Pope can make that Righteous which is Vnrighteous That the Bishop of Rome is a God That the Pope may dispence with all Duties and that our Principles set Men loose from all obligations in all relations whatsoever between Magistrates and Subjects Lords and Tenants Husbands and Wives Parents and Children Masters and Servants Buyers and Sellers That there is not any sin but is or may be Indulged amongst us and scarce a known sin but there is a known price for it and at our Market-rate you may commit them when you will What is the Belief and Doctrine of the Papists as 't is deliver'd by Tho. Beard D.D. in his Book Entituled Antichrist the Pope of Rome THey Believe that Saints departed ought to be Worshipped and invocated with trust and confidence as God himself That the Pope can Canonize them to this Worship at his pleasure That Images are to be adored with the same degree of honour as is due to their Patterns contrary to an express precept of the Law That the Pardon of sins here in this Life and deliverance out of Purgatory in the Life to come may be bought for Mony and where no Mony there no remission They make their unwritten Traditions not one but the principal part of Gods word They place divers counterfeit Books disguised under the Name of some of the Apostles or their Disciples full of Fables Blasphemies and Contrarieties and yet commend them to the World as parcels of the written word of God and Believe in them as Holy Scripture it self as the Gospels of St. Nicodemus of St. Thomas c. The Pope hath set up a new God in the Church namely a piece of Bread in the Mass and to their Breaden God they ascribe power to forgive sins to defend from evil both Men and Beast and to bring to Heaven when as in the mean while most horrible Blasphemies against Christ himself are tolerated and slighted over The Pope is above Angels and Magistrates he exalteth himself above all that is called God yea above God himself They prefer their Saints before Christ They rely more upon the mediation and intercession of Saints then upon the mediation of Christ They not only equal St. Francis and St. Dominick unto Christ but in some things prefer them before him They affirm that whoever dies in St. Francis's habit cannot be Damn'd and that it is as forcible for the remission of sins as the Sacrament of Baptism What the Papists are as Represented by Mr. Sutcliffe