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A95347 Tub-preachers overturn'd or Independency to be abandon'd and abhor'd as destructive to the majestracy and ministery, of the church and common-wealth of England. Proved in a satisfactory answer to a lybellous pamphlet, intituled A letter to Mr Thomas Edwards, with an infamous dedication. Shewing the vanity, folly, madness of the deboyst buff-coat, mechanick frize-coat, lay illiterate men and women, to usurpe the ministery, and audaciously vent their own hereticall opinions, in their hous- (alias tub) -- preachings. viz. Wiet a cobler. Robine a sadler. Sammon a sho-maker. Barde a smith. Kiffin a glover. Patience a taylor. Tue a girdler. Wilkin the meal-man. Fletcher a cooper. Hobson a taylor. Oates a button-maker. Ives a box-maker. Barbone a lether-seller. Parvis a gold-smith. Lamb a sope-boyler. Bignall a porter. Henshaw a confectioner, alias infectioner. Bulcher a chicken-man. Hawes a broaker. Duper a cow-keeper. Reader, I cannot inform thee of their christen names because 'tis questionable whether they have any. 1647 (1647) Wing T3207; Thomason E384_7; ESTC R201446 10,578 16

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Scriptum est Page 8. line 8. The way to Heaven ye tell men is by the gate of Hell and more then halfe-damned they must be ere they must think of being saved and who but ye in the despaire of poore creatures ordained to speake peace Sir indeed this Doctrine so much of it as we maintaine is farre different or seperate from your pleasing one yet this we know the way to Heaven is not strewed with rushes and that those which will live godly in Christ Jesus must suffer Persecution Tribulation Anguish griefe of heart and mind c. This is not as yours to nihilate the Doctrine of Repentance but to bring them to humilitie to whom God giveth grace when he resisteth such proud Pharisaicall high-minded Soule-murtherers Braggadochio's as your selves Is this by the gate of Hell I am sure it is the way to know themselves a thing ye are most ignorant of And who but yee ordained to speake peace Why Sir who but they who are ye are any of you the Prophets or the sons of the Prophets Sir remember that Uzziah was strook by God with a Leprosie for inrruding presumptuously upon the Priests Office I hold you if Prophets to be the sonnes of that old lying Prophet which countermanded that Prophet sent on Gods message who beleeving his lyes was destroyed by a Lion in the way If we should beleeve your peace when you squeale out pax pax as I could instance in many your blasphemous doctrines we should wholly neglect our eternall and everlasting peace Pag. 8. l. 35. But Sir in good earnest let 's have more sence and lesse volumes fower tales and more truths smaller books and bigger Arguments these bum bast Editions tire all but satisfie none Reasons are sold by weight and not by tale Yea Sir in sober sadnesse yee shall have more sence when your illiterate numbers learne to reade then they 'l love to write and speake sense when they cry up Humane earning and other externall properties as these unlearned Rabbies account them till when these volumes of necessity must increase with your Numbers you shall have fewer tales and more truths when you forget your lying Mother-tongue as well as your Latin one for take this for truth so long as vee pray preach dispute nonsence lyes and those knaveries y' are ashamed to owne in your own dialect they shall be repeated and thrown as dung in your face and then shall you have more weightier Reasons of the Sunne when such Moon-calves shall be brought to the Knowledge and Love of God and of his Wisdome and Truth and to love and Charity to their brethren Now he comes to a ru●fe draught of a simple Inventory of Mr Edwards Books this hairy ruffenesse shewes them to be of the hated brood of Esau whose hoary-hairy scapes God doth and shall smite with a frenzie lunacie which they call illumination of the spirit Imprimis given to the Honourable House of Commons out of hopes to finde favour there so many Bookes Sir what you call hopes I can affirme is he hath assurance to finde favour with the Honourable House of Commons the King and House or Lords too yea with the Assembly of Divines and all the knowing Orthodox men in Christendome Sir seed not your fancies with vaine hopes of the late brags you made of the strength of your Party in the Parliament-Houses Armies and Kingdome these are but meer scar-crow●s which your unlicensed Printing-Presse hath divulg'd of which Overton in Newgate can give testimony as well as Lilburne in the Tower Item given to your reverend selfe for your reverend Copy so many 40. s. in dry money too much by 39. in so dry a bargaine See Reverend Mr. Edwards if you were not of the viperous Generation is Right Worthy by you to be revernced as your best and most reverend Master or Tutor and therefore take warning that if you persist to bristle up your prick-eares at him with your wildlookt meager countenance that hee or some in his behalfe shall pick your guberd teeth with such a bed staffe as Dr. Bastwick did Item given to a Schoole-boy to correct your false Latin and other amendments 40. s. in dry money too much by 39. in so dry a bargaine Sir he that can write true Latin can as truly correct it as Mr. Edwards doth himselfe But Sir if you have not broke Priscians head more than once I le give you leave to breake mine But I le take the paines as I would give you correction to correct your Page last line first Ambobus manibus iterum iterumque approbatar which I thus correct Ambabus manibus iterumque iterumque approbatur Sir for the rest of the Inventory it is so full of nonsensicall simplicitie not worth the repeating or answering yet for the Readers satisfaction let him judge Item given to the Grecian for helping you to the Originalls and filling up the Hebrew blanks 59. shillings and 3. groats I feare you want one groats-worth of wit Item so many sold for little or nothing to the Exchange to Grocers Cookes c. Item so many sequestered for my own proper use in my study behinde the doore alias the house of Office and for my servants so many and many more such like Items But Sir take this one Item from me that if these thin leav'd empty volumes of a sheet and a halfe and your sawcie lyes in them shall still be vented against the Parliament Assembly Church of England Mr. Edwards Dr. Bastwicke Mr. Pryn c. I le publish to the world your illicerate mechanick nonsensicall cobled-fustian-Tubbers men and women the names and qualities of some of them for this time I le but nominate viz. Wyet a Cobler Robin a Sadler Lamb a Sopeboiler Bignall a Porter Kiffin a Glover Tue a Girdler Major Tulidagh a Scot. Patience a Taylor Parvis a Goldsmith Barebones a Leatherseller Henshaw a Confectioner alias Infector Bulcher a Chicken-man alias dead and alive These and 40. more for the men-preachers and for your women-Tubbers alias Dubbers my Muse shall onely sing of one The Church of * Revel 2. Thyatyrah threatned sore For suffering Jezabell that Scarlet Whore Thus to seduce Gods people and to teach Them disobedience yee poore soules bewitch Them her to follow Like her such another Sold Bone-lace in Cheapside that had a Brother Did walke disorderly him to befriend For his Conversion at a Tables end Did take a Text and boldly did descant The lawfulnesse to Preach of a she-saint Inform'd her Auditory that there was More need she edifie 'em then sell Lace And that her zeale piety and knowledge Surpast the gravest Student in the Colledge Who striv'd thus Humane Learning to advance She with her Bible and a Concordance Could Preach nine times a weeke morning and night Such revelations had she from new light The tedions godlesse non-sence sermon ended Her sainted Convert whom she thus befriended Desir'd a private Application Unto the point in Agitation The Feast when ended and the Saints all gone Who left behinde a large Collection Deare Brother said she if you would be wise Ile teach you how your gifts to exercise One Concordance will serve us both to note Such Scriptures as wee 'l easily get by roat He with her wind of Doctrine led away For sooke his wife with her went over Sea So she her husband where they both exprest Each others gifts I blush to preach the rest Sir that this estimate is more infailible than yours to which ye subscribed R. S. I have likewise annexed G. L. for the honest Reader to judge Reader this R. S. or Ralph Smith is the Book-seller that prints and publisheth Mr. Edwards Gangrena's Sir if hee should make such a lame account as you bring he would shew little wisdome to re-print such volumes But sirrah this is like one of your falsities you said of Dr. Bastwicks viz. That his Bookes had made more Independanss then they had desswaded from it And Sir for that whibling scandalous Pamphlet call'd A sudden Answer to Dr. Bastwicks utter routing of all the Independants and sectaries of one sheet of paper in which you undertake to answer his 100 sheets But because it is not worth his while to reply too 't I shall God willing give any indifferent Reader a full and good account to answer in your owne Dialect excepting your rayling and lying c. Sir let me for your owne sake desire you as a Christian Brother to recall these passions and reclaime them to set Christ before you as the truest pattern to learne of him to be meek humble lowly in your owne eyes this will raise you to a high pitch of piery and acceptance with Almighty God Sir let me exhort ye as a Christian Brother to set Christs blessed Apostle S. Peter as a true pattern before you to imitate him in your unerring Church although S. Paul reproved S. Peter Gal. 2. 11. But when Peter was come to Antioch I with stood him to the face because he was to be blamed yet Peter of that godly knowledge doth acknowledge and approve of all S. Pauls Epistles 2 Pet. 3. 15. 16. And accouns that the long-suffering of our Lord is salvation even as our beloved brother Paul aso according to the wisdome given unto him hath written unto you As also in all his Epistles speaking in them of these things in which are some things hard to bee understood which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest as they doe also the other Scriptures unto their owne destruction FINIS