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A45785 A sermon preached before the King at White-Hall November 23, 1684 by Gilbert Ironside ... Ironside, Gilbert, 1588-1671. 1685 (1685) Wing I1049; ESTC R5618 18,482 39

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Thee because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel to teach and seduce my people However no Spanish Inquisition practis'd or enjoyn'd by Christ or his Apostles or the Fathers of the Primitive Church The Arrians indeed went that way Thirdly the people likewise must do their duty in taking the Alarum from the Minister to try the Spirits upon tryal to have no communication with them in sacred things which imports an Approbation of their errors and an Abrenunciation of the Truth nor in civil things if the Church so order it Howbeit the people must keep within their bounds The Keys abolish not civil Rights or the Law of Property much less do they dissolve Allegiance Suffer they must for Truth not defend or propagate it by violence And in this agree the harmony of Confessions in all Reformed Churches whatsoever some turbulent spirits of Scotland have written to the contrary and may well be used by Popish writers to cover their own shame in this kind But lastly the chiefest Power is in the hands of the Magistrate even that of coercion and debet terrenum Regnum coelesti famulari Against This even the whole of it the Papists constantly declaim saying That Princes indeed are the chiefest rank of men in Civil Societies but not in the Church they must have nothing to do here of themselves it were Sacriledge in them the Pope must do all We say that Kings and Princes are custodes utriusque Tabuloe Guardians of both Tables Defenders of the Faith not by way of compliment and Title only and that from their own high Dignity and Calling not the Pope's Donation Defenders of the Faith as well as of Civil Rights Episcopi ad extra to see God be religiously worshipp'd Nursing Fathers c. Neither does it follow that the Magistrate may act ad libitum or that the people may with a safe conscience acquiesce in any Religion he shall be pleas'd to determine as Mr. Hobbs but t is suppos'd he shall proceed juxta verbum and therefore to study the Law of our common Master and to advise with Those whose Profession it is To this end the Emperors called Synods and set the Bible in the middle And this practice of old and above all things was the commendation of the good King Josiah In the 2d of Chron. 34. when the Book of the Law was found he commanded it to be read before him And it came to pass when the King heard the words of the Law that he rent his cloaths v. 19. Because our Fathers have not kept the word of the Lord to do after all that is written in this Book i.e. in suppressing false and idolatrous Religions And when the King went up into the house of the Lord and all the men of Judah and Inhabitants of Jerusalem and all the people great and small as t is express'd v. 30. and read in their ears all the words of the Book he not only made a covenant for himself but caus'd all that were present in Jerusalem to stand to it v. 32. and took away all the abominations of other Religions out of all the countreys that pertain'd to the children of Israel v. 30. And this I say and such like good examples of Kings amongst the Jews we find Christian Emperors to follow in Ecclesiastical story They shut up Heretick Churches caus'd their books to be burnt disabled them to bear Office to inherit Lands make Wills banish'd them and sometimes put them to death And this measure of Power the Church of England requires for her Kings Article 37. the same Authority and Power which was in use and practice a mongst the Kings of Judah But for any particular uniform course to be taken the Prince being left to Religious discretion no man can be so vain to expect it All is well if the correction be but proportionable to the corruption greater or less as is sufficient to preserve the sound and reclaim the straying Party St. Austin and other Fathers were at first much against Coertion and would have only Perswasion us'd but Experience made them retract and to justifie the lawfulness and usefulness and necessity of Coertion out of Scripture Si enim terrerentur non docerentur improba quasi dominatio excideretur so it follow Instruction not go before it So expresly plentifully and at large Epist 48. Mea primitus sententia erat neminem ad unitatem Christi esse cogendum verbo esse agendum disputatione pugnandum ratione vincendum ne fictos Catholicos haberemus quos apertos Hoereticos noveramus Sed haec opino mea non contradicentium verbis sed demonstrantium superabatur exemplis In another place he tells us Nullis bonis in Catholica hoc placet si usque ad mortem in quenquam licèt hoereticum soeviatur Lib. 3. contra Crescon and desires Donatus the Proconful of Africa Ep. 127. that he would forget he had potestatem occidendi and in his 3d. Book 50. chap. to the aforesaid Cresconius he gives another reason why he would not have the blood of Hereticks to be shed because all hope is cut off and it takes away Temporal life when they are in danger of losing Eternal yet in some cases he thinks it fit that Hereticks should dye as when blasphemous as the Manichees and abusing the Sacrament in the Supper when such beasts as the Priscillianists when tumultuous as the Circumcellians Eodem loco coatra Cresconium Contra literas Betiliani l. 2. And Laws were made specially after the death of St. Austin to that purpose which the Church of Rome has brought to the hight of extremity Bellarm. de laicis cap. 21 22. But in these and such like cases as have been mentioned the Magistrate in the opinion of the whole Catholick Church may and is to interpose And though Anabaptists In hoc enim Reges sicut iis divinitus praecipitur Deo serviunt in quantùm reges sunt si in suo reguo bona jubeant mala prohibeant non solum quae pertinent ad humanam societatem verùm etiam quae ad divinam religionem Ep. contra Cresco●um and other Phanaticks say No Good comes by compulsion which is not always true as St. Austin reasons at large yet the practice of Religion contrary to the true is not to be suffer'd but means must be us'd not only to secure the Church and the Faith of it but to reform also if it be possible the Hereticks and Schismaticks themselves and to compel them even by mulcts to frequent the Church intending their Salvation not Punishment Imò serviunt Reges terrae Christo etiam leges ferendo pro Christo Ep. 48. Non odio nocendi sed dilectione sanandi Indeed the Understanding can be wrought upon by nothing but Perswasion and men can never be sincere Converts unless the Understanding be made to yeild but alas in encountring with the greatest part of Secteries we do not deal much with the understanding many of them