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a_o common_a death_n yet_o be_v they_o change_v which_o be_v in_o steed_n of_o death_n unto_o they_o 4._o origen_n think_v that_o elias_n descendens_fw-la heaven_n ad_fw-la inferna_fw-la etc._n etc._n do_v descend_v to_o hell_n etc._n etc._n hom._n 4._o in_o luc._n ambrose_n take_v paradise_n to_o be_v heaven_n tum_o saluus_fw-la fuero_fw-la in_o paradiso_fw-la cum_fw-la coepero_fw-la vivere_fw-la inter_fw-la electos_fw-la angelos_fw-la then_o i_o shall_v be_v safe_a when_o i_o shall_v live_v in_o paradise_n among_o the_o elect_a angel_n serm_n 15._o in_o psal._n 119._o if_o henoch_n and_o elias_n be_v in_o paradise_n they_o be_v then_o in_o heaven_n chrysostome_n hom._n 21._o in_o genes_n if_o any_o man_n do_v curious_o ask_v into_o what_o place_n henoch_n be_v translate_v and_o whether_o he_o do_v live_v to_o this_o present_a discat_fw-la non_fw-la convenire_fw-la humanis_fw-la mentibus_fw-la curiosius_fw-la ea_fw-la quae_fw-la à _fw-la deo_fw-la fiunt_fw-la explorare_fw-la let_v
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quales_fw-la in_o die_fw-la isto_fw-la cuique_fw-la moritur_fw-la talis_fw-la in_o die_fw-la illo_fw-la iudicabitur_fw-la as_o a_o man_n die_v in_o this_o day_n so_o shall_v he_o be_v judge_v in_o that_o day_n epist_n 80._o ad_fw-la hesych_n ergo_fw-la prayer_n be_v not_o available_a for_o the_o dead_a argum._n 4._o that_o which_o a_o man_n have_v obtain_v ever_o already_o if_o ever_o he_o shall_v obtain_v it_o be_v in_o vain_a pray_v for_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o depart_a be_v present_o at_o rest_n if_o they_o be_v count_v worthy_a august_n requiem_n quae_fw-la continuo_fw-la post_fw-la mortem_fw-la datur_fw-la si_fw-la ea_fw-la dignus_fw-la est_fw-la tum_fw-la accipit_fw-la cuique_fw-la cum_fw-la moritur_fw-la rest_v which_o be_v present_o give_v after_o death_n every_o one_o even_o than_o receive_v if_o he_o be_v worthy_a when_o he_o die_v tract_n in_o joann_n 49._o ergo_fw-la it_o be_v in_o vain_a to_o pray_v for_o the_o rest_n of_o their_o soul_n argum._n 5._o he_o that_o depart_v this_o life_n without_o sin_n need_v not_o afterward_o to_o be_v pray_v life_n for_o to_o be_v forgive_v his_o sin_n but_o every_o one_o that_o shall_v be_v save_v go_v forth_o of_o this_o life_n without_o sin_n augustin_n epist_n 89._o ad_fw-la hilar._n qu._n 1._o he_o that_o assist_v by_o the_o grace_n of_o god_n do_v abstain_v from_o those_o sin_n which_o be_v call_v crime_n and_o those_o sin_n without_o the_o which_o a_o man_n live_v not_o here_o do_v not_o neglect_v to_o cleanse_v by_o the_o work_n of_o mercy_n and_o godly_a prayer_n merebitur_fw-la hinc_fw-la exire_fw-la sine_fw-la peccato_fw-la quamuis_fw-la cum_fw-la hic_fw-la viveret_fw-la habuerit_fw-la nonnulla_fw-la peccata_fw-la quia_fw-la sicut_fw-la ista_fw-la non_fw-la defuerunt_fw-la ita_fw-la remedia_fw-la quibus_fw-la purgarentur_fw-la adfuerunt_fw-la shall_v procure_v to_o go_v out_o hence_o without_o sin_n although_o while_o he_o live_v here_o he_o have_v some_o sin_n for_o as_o these_o thing_n be_v not_o want_v so_o the_o remedy_n whereby_o they_o be_v purge_v be_v present_a but_o what_o if_o a_o man_n neglect_n to_o use_v these_o remedy_n while_o he_o live_v certain_o he_o be_v deprive_v of_o they_o for_o ever_o he_o can_v have_v they_o afterward_o augustine_n say_v noli_fw-la differre_fw-la o_o homo_fw-la remedia_fw-la salutis_fw-la tuus_fw-la quia_fw-la nescis_fw-la quando_fw-la anima_fw-la à _fw-la te_fw-la repetatur_fw-la defer_v not_o o_o man_n the_o remedy_n of_o thy_o salvation_n for_o thou_o know_v not_o when_o thy_o soul_n shall_v be_v take_v from_o thou_o ergo_fw-la if_o he_o that_o be_v save_v have_v his_o sin_n forgive_v he_o before_o he_o go_v hence_o prayer_n for_o pardon_n afterward_o be_v superfluous_a argum._n 6._o where_o there_o be_v no_o remission_n of_o sin_n nor_o effectual_a repentance_n there_o prayer_n for_o remission_n be_v in_o vain_a but_o after_o death_n there_o be_v neither_o remission_n death_n nor_o yet_o true_a repentance_n aug._n the_o temp_n serm_n 66._o 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bellarmine_n augustine_n in_o diverse_a place_n and_o hilarius_n hippolytus_n apollinarius_n see_v tetrasty_n l._n p._n 142._o 143._o bellarmine_n say_v of_o sozomene_n eum_n multa_fw-la esse_fw-la mentitum_fw-la that_o he_o lie_v in_o many_o thing_n libr._n 3._o de_fw-fr poeniten_v cap._n 14._o do_v not_o the_o libeller_n himself_o grant_v as_o much_o we_o admit_v not_o the_o authority_n of_o one_o two_o or_o three_o ancient_a and_o holy_a father_n dissent_v from_o the_o rest_n pag._n 133._o 3._o but_o you_o think_v hardly_o that_o luther_n shall_v so_o speak_v of_o gregory_n dialogue_n he_o may_v well_o so_o do_v because_o it_o be_v a_o book_n full_a of_o fable_n and_o lie_v whereof_o the_o devil_n be_v the_o author_n neither_o be_v it_o ever_o write_v by_o gregory_n for_o this_o dialogue_n make_v mention_n of_o purgatory_n fire_n lib._n 4._o dialog_n cap._n 39_o whereas_o gregory_n hold_v but_o two_o place_n after_o this_o life_n libr._n 8._o moral_n cap._n 8._o in_o these_o word_n 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constitution_n of_o clemens_n dionysius_n the_o ecclesiastic_a hierarch_n athanasius_n question_n add_v antiochiam_n gregory_n dialogue_n the_o liturgy_n of_o basil_n testament_n of_o ephrem_n be_v all_o bastard_n write_n which_o bellarmine_n produce_v as_o authentical_a witness_n for_o purgatory_n second_o gregory_n nazianzen_n eusebius_n epiphanius_n chrysostom_n theodoret_n theophylact_n damascene_fw-la be_v impertinent_o cite_v for_o purgatory_n who_o indeed_o make_v mention_n of_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a but_o have_v no_o one_o word_n of_o purgatory_n neither_o do_v the_o greek_a church_n believe_v that_o there_o be_v any_o purgatory_n fire_n prooem_n ad_fw-la council_n florentin_n tertullian_n likewise_o cyprian_a ambrose_n hierome_n be_v bring_v in_o to_o be_v of_o the_o jury_n for_o purgatory_n but_o they_o do_v not_o so_o much_o as_o mention_v it_o who_o so_o list_v to_o take_v view_n of_o their_o testimony_n as_o they_o be_v cite_v by_o bellarm._n libr._n 1._o de_fw-fr 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