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the_o behalf_n of_o believer_n and_o against_o infant_n baptism_n and_o whether_o mr._n will_n have_v reason_n to_o charge_v i_o with_o delusion_n for_o produce_v of_o they_o which_o as_o yet_o stand_v unanswered_a for_o the_o most_o part_n and_o i_o believe_v ever_o will_v do_v chap._n ii_o that_o infant_n baptism_n have_v neither_o foundation_n in_o scripture_n or_o antiquity_n be_v make_v good_a against_o mr._n will_v his_o pretence_n to_o both_o section_n 1_o as_o in_o the_o former_a chapter_n so_o in_o this_o i_o shall_v sum_v up_o what_o i_o have_v say_v to_o justify_v the_o truth_n of_o the_o assertion_n what_o mr._n will_n grant_v thereof_o wherein_o the_o force_n of_o his_o objection_n lie_v and_o my_o reply_n thereto_o baptism_n that_o no_o precept_n or_o practice_n for_o infant_n baptism_n the_o first_o thing_n i_o do_v herein_o be_v to_o make_v good_a the_o scripture_n total_a silence_n either_o as_o to_o precept_n or_o practise_v for_o infnnt_n baptism_n and_o that_o by_o 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no_o express_a command_n for_o the_o same_o nor_o example_n to_o plunge_v they_o as_o they_o do_v with_o their_o clothes_n on_o pag._n 101._o and_o therefore_o in_o mr._n baxters_n word_n tell_v we_o in_o his_o usual_a civility_n what_o ignorant_a wretch_n we_o be_v to_o call_v for_o express_v word_n of_o scripture_n when_o we_o have_v the_o evident_a consequence_n or_o sense_n and_o be_v scripture_n reason_n say_v he_o no_o scripture_n with_o you_o to_o both_o which_o i_o reply_v first_o first_o reply_v to_o the_o first_o to_o his_o first_o argument_n that_o infant_n baptism_n may_v be_v lawful_a because_o not_o forbid_v in_o the_o scripture_n nor_o no_o where_o tell_v where_o it_o be_v not_o do_v may_v also_o prove_v the_o lawfulness_n of_o baptise_v bell_n and_o church_n wall_n of_o chrism_n exorcism_n communicate_v infant_n and_o a_o hundred_o other_o invention_n that_o be_v practise_v of_o old_a and_o still_o be_v in_o use_n among_o the_o papist_n neither_o be_v it_o any_o where_o 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innocency_n and_o truth_n vindicated_n or_o a_o sober_a reply_n to_o mr_n will_v 's_o answer_v to_o a_o late_a treatise_n of_o baptism_n wherein_o the_o authority_n and_o antiquity_n for_o believer_n and_o against_o infant_n baptism_n be_v defend_v and_o the_o mis-representation_n and_o forgery_n he_o boast_v of_o all_o return_v upon_o himself_o with_o a_o brief_a answer_n to_o mr_n blinman_v essay_n by_o henry_n danvers_n ut_fw-la ex_fw-la lapidum_fw-la attritu_fw-la ignis_fw-la elicitur_fw-la sic_fw-la saepe_fw-la veritas_fw-la ex_fw-la alternantium_fw-la imo_fw-la &_o altercantium_fw-la sermonum_fw-la conflictu_fw-la lipsius_n prov._n 18.17_o he_o that_o be_v first_o in_o his_o own_o cause_n seem_v just_a but_o his_o neighbour_n come_v and_o search_v he_o print_a for_o francis_n smith_n at_o the_o elephant_n and_o castle_n near_o the_o royal_a exchange_n in_o cornhill_n 1675._o the_o preface_n it_o be_v a_o ancient_n and_o well_o approve_a maxim_n among_o the_o learned_a that_o 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against_o infant_n baptism_n yeâ—_n you_o will_v find_v they_o serve_v but_o so_o much_o the_o more_o to_o illustrate_v that_o truth_n he_o pretend_v to_o foil_v give_v only_o a_o opportunity_n for_o further_a confirmation_n and_o ratification_n and_o to_o create_v more_o full_a satisfaction_n or_o conviction_n to_o any_o that_o have_v be_v in_o suspense_n as_o to_o the_o truth_n of_o any_o of_o those_o authority_n urge_v by_o i_o wherein_o notwithstanding_o his_o great_a flourish_n and_o noise_n you_o will_v find_v he_o be_v not_o able_a to_o reprove_v the_o truth_n so_o much_o as_o of_o one_o of_o those_o many_o authority_n in_o the_o historical_a part_n and_o except_v that_o one_o in_o the_o doctrinal_a part_n viz._n calvin_n for_o eckius_fw-la not_o another_o that_o be_v considerable_a in_o the_o whole_a book_n therefore_o all_o that_o i_o have_v to_o ask_v of_o the_o candid_a reader_n at_o who_o bar_n the_o matter_n be_v now_o brâ—ught_v betwixt_o mr._n will_v his_o and_o i_o be_v 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his_o undue_a and_o uncomely_a reflection_n the_o haughty_a bitter_a wrathful_a frothy_a and_o provoke_a spirit_n he_o appear_v in_o through_o the_o whole_a book_n sâ—_n unbecoming_a christian_a candour_n his_o holy_a profession_n or_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o ordinance_n treat_v of_o i_o shall_v the_o beast_n concern_v myself_o about_o but_o leave_v it_o to_o he_o that_o can_v convince_v and_o will_v certain_o reckâ—n_v for_o such_o hard_a speech_n for_o his_o name_n sake_n and_o rather_o so_o far_o as_o concern_v myself_o with_o job_n to_o bind_v it_o about_o i_o for_o a_o crown_n job_n 31.36_o and_o as_o exhort_v mat._n 5._o to_o rejoice_v to_o be_v account_v worthy_a to_o suffer_v contempt_n &_o reproach_n for_o the_o truth_n sake_n etc._n etc._n then_o to_o render_v rail_a for_o rail_a it_o be_v also_o ever_o judge_v the_o sign_n of_o a_o bad_a cause_n for_o person_n to_o betake_v themselves_o to_o such_o course_n and_o thereby_o to_o supply_v the_o want_n of_o matter_n and_o 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