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A12557 Paralleles, censures, observations Aperteyning: to three several writinges, 1. A lettre written to Mr. Ric. Bernard, by Iohn Smyth. 2. A book intituled, the Seperatists schisme published by Mr. Bernard. 3. An answer made to that book called the Sep. Schisme by Mr. H. Ainsworth. Whereunto also are adioyned. 1. The said lettre written to Mr. Ric. Bernard divided into 19. sections. 2. Another lettre written to Mr. A.S. 3. A third letter written to certayne bretheren of the seperation. By Iohn Smyth. Smyth, John, d. 1612. 1609 (1609) STC 22877; ESTC S103006 171,681 180

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not_o to_o man_n otherwise_o then_o in_o the_o lord_n therefore_o in_o matter_n of_o religion_n the_o conscience_n be_v not_o to_o yield_v to_o any_o thing_n devise_v by_o man_n but_o must_v always_o have_v the_o lord_n for_o the_o leader_n &_o governor_n therein_o hence_o than_o it_o follow_v that_o whosoever_o substitute_v any_o devise_n of_o man_n any_o thing_n teach_v by_o the_o precept_n of_o man_n mat._n 15.9_o esay_n 29.13_o any_o will_v worship_v or_o any_o ordinance_n of_o the_o world_n in_o matter_n of_o religion_n set_v up_o that_o which_o be_v contrary_a to_o the_o lord_n ordinance_n contrary_a to_o the_o lord_n will_v contrary_a to_o the_o lord_n wisdom_n &_o i_o will_v fain_o learn_v whither_o this_o be_v not_o a_o idol_n or_o image_n so_o that_o idol_n be_v of_o two_o sort_n 1._o a_o false_a god_n 2_o a_o false_a mean_n to_o honour_n or_o submit_v or_o do_v homage_n to_o the_o true_a god_n in_o or_o by_o as_o a_o false_a or_o devise_v time_n place_n person_n instrument_n action_n &_o if_o the●be_a any_o thing_n of_o the_o like_a consideration_n therefore_o a_o false_a or_o devise_v time_n may_v be_v call_v a_o idol_n day_n as_o 1_o king_n 12.33_o the_o month_n which_o jeroboam_fw-la appoint_v for_o the_o worship_n of_o his_o calf_n be_v call_v the_o month_n which_o he_o have_v forge_v of_o his_o own_o hart_n that_o be_v a_o idol_n month_n &_o so_o by_o consequent_a the_o 15_o day_n of_o that_o month_n a_o idol_n day_n so_o in_o the_o old_a testament_n the_o place_n where_o god_n be_v to_o be_v worship_v be_v the_o tabernacle_n or_o temple_n deut._n 12_o 5-8_a &_o therefore_o the_o high_a place_n in_o iudah_fw-mi also_o dan_fw-mi &_o bethel_n in_o israel_n be_v idol_n place_n because_o
though_o it_o occupy_v the_o place_n or_o a_o natural_a part_n so_o a_o hypocrite_n or_o one_o that_o continue_v not_o to_o the_o end_n possess_v only_o a_o room_n in_o the_o visible_a church_n &_o be_v not_o indeed_o a_o true_a member_n you_o will_v demand_v then_o why_o we_o receive_v hypocrite_n among_o we_o whereto_o i_o answer_v we_o can_v discern_v a_o hypocrite_n &_o therefore_o we_o be_v to_o judge_n of_o man_n according_a to_o that_o we_o see_v measure_v they_o by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n that_o which_o be_v conceal_v from_o we_o we_o be_v not_o to_o pry_v into_o wherefore_o our_o judgement_n must_v alter_v &_o change_v as_o occasion_n vary_v &_o so_o the_o scripture_n speak_v of_o a_o righteous_a man_n forsake_v his_o righteousness_n ezech._n 18.24_o whereas_o in_o truth_n the_o gift_n &_o call_v of_o god_n be_v without_o repentance_n rom._n 11.29_o bree_o therefore_o to_o deliver_v unto_o you_o the_o truth_n i_o hold_v concern_v this_o point_n 1._o the_o visible_a church_n consist_v of_o a_o outward_a &_o inward_a communion_n 2._o the_o inward_a communion_n be_v know_v only_o to_o god_n so_o be_v the_o member_n thereof_o 3._o the_o outward_a visible_a communion_n be_v 〈◊〉_d &_o discern_v by_o man_n so_o be_v the_o member_n thereof_o 4._o we_o a●●_n to_o judge_n man_n for_o the_o present_a to_o be_v both_o of_o the_o inward_a &_o outward_a communion_n if_o they_o manifest_v to_o we_o a_o ourward_a 〈◊〉_d faith_n ●_o 〈◊〉_d afterward_o man_n apostate_n finaly_a than_o we_o chandg_v our_o mind_n &_o say_v they_o be_v ●ever_o of_o we_o for_o have_v they_o be_v of_o we_o they_o will_v have_v continue_v with_o us._n now_o mr._n bern._n i_o pray_v you_o answer_v we_o this_o which_o we_o thus_o justify_v out_o of_o the_o word_n if_o you_o can_v if_o you_o can_v yield_v to_o the_o truth_n &_o embrace_v the_o faith_n &_o we_o shall_v rejoice_v 〈◊〉_d you_o &_o with_o you_o parallel_n censure_n observation_n aperteyn_a to_o the_o six_o section_n mr._n bern._n in_o his_o book_n entitle_v the_o separatist_n schism_n pa._n 83._o have_v these_o word_n viz_n their_o five_o error_n be_v that_o only_a saint_n that_o be_v a_o people_n forsake_v all_o know_a sin_n of_o which_o they_o may_v be_v convince_v do_v all_o the_o know_a will_n of_o god_n increase_v &_o abide_v ever_o therein_o be_v the_o only_a matter_n of_o a_o visible_a church_n in_o this_o section_n mr._n bern._n say_v thus_o it_o be_v a_o error_n to_o teach_v that_o only_a saint_n as_o mr._n smyth_n define_v they_o by_o 4_o property_n be_v the_o only_a matter_n of_o a_o visible_a church_n mr._n ainswortht_v confutation_n of_o mr._n bern._n pag._n 174._o say_v that_o he_o deny_v this_o position_n &_o disclaym_v the_o error_n which_o mr._n bern._n gather_v from_o they_o refer_v he_o to_o they_o that_o hold_v it_o then_o mr._n ainsworth_n show_v what_o he_o hold_v that_o saint_n by_o calling_n be_v the_o only_a matter_n of_o a_o true_a visible_a church_n yet_o that_o many_o be_v call_v &_o few_o choose_v let_v the_o reader_n consider_v the_o exposition_n that_o i_o have_v give_v to_o this_o position_n in_o this_o section_n of_o my_o letter_n &_o then_o let_v he_o give_v his_o verdict_n the_o exposition_n be_v summary_o thus_o much_o viz_n that_o see_v the_o visible_a church_n consist_v of_o a_o ontward_a &_o inward_a communion_n they_o that_o be_v only_o of_o the_o outward_a visible_a communion_n as_o hypocrite_n be_v no_o true_a member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n but_o only_o in_o reputation_n &_o account_n before_o man_n now_o i_o demand_v of_o master_n bernard_n again_o with_o what_o face_n or_o good_a conscience_n he_o dare_v thus_o ●●●se_v the_o world_n to_o publish_v this_o position_n bare_o without_o my_o expo●●●ion_n or_o not_o to_o answer_v that_o which_o i_o bring_v for_o the_o confirmation_n thereof_o but_o naked_o to_o set_v it_o down_o &_o then_o only_o to_o object_v against_o it_o herein_o you_o bewray_v to_o i_o a_o mind_n willing_a to_o hide_v the_o truth_n &_o to_o deceive_v the_o world_n &_o to_o draw_v the_o lord_n truth_n into_o detestation_n which_o whither_o it_o be_v not_o the_o quality_n of_o a_o false_a prophett●_n i_o leave_v to_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o godly_a mind_v and_o whither_o hereby_o you_o do_v not_o verify_v christ_n speech_n that_o you_o come_v to_o rob_v kill_v &_o to_o destroy_v &_o that_o therefore_o you_o be_v a_o thief_n &_o a_o robber_n joh._n 10.1.10_o but_o because_o you_o be_v so_o importunate_a with_o your_o objection_n &_o reason_n let_v we_o here_o what_o they_o be_v first_o you_o say_v my_o description_n of_o saint_n be_v a_o proper_a description_n of_o the_o invisible_a member_n of_o christ_n jesus_n &_o that_o it_o exclude_v hypocrite_n from_o be_v true_a matter_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n i_o answer_v two_o thing_n namely_o 1._o that_o a_o hypocrite_n may_v perform_v all_o these_o 4._o property_n mention_v in_o the_o description_n of_o saint_n for_o he_o may_v 1_o forsake_v all_o know_a sin_n 2._o do_v all_o the_o know_a will_n of_o god_n 3._o grow_v in_o knowledge_n &_o grace_n 4._o continue_v to_o the_o end_n &_o yet_o be_v a_o hypocrite_n to_o the_o lord_n in_o secret_a do_v you_o think_v mr._n bernard_n that_o all_o that_o die_v thus_o qualify_v in_o the_o estimation_n of_o man_n be_v indeed_o save_v with_o the_o l_o i_o confess_v to_o i_o they_o be_v undoubted_o save_v but_o be_v they_o so_o to_o the_o lord_n make_v a_o direct_a answer_n to_o this_o particular_a &_o you_o shall_v be_v compel_v to_o see_v &_o confess_v your_o 〈◊〉_d v●●_n 2._o i_o answer_v more_o proper_o thus_o when_o i_o define_v saint_n i_o must_v define_v they_o not_o as_o they_o be_v in_o show_n for_o the_o present_a but_o as_o they_o be_v indeed_o &_o truth_n now_o truth_n be_v so_o either_o before_o man_n or_o before_o god_n before_o man_n that_o be_v true_a sometime_o which_o be_v false_a before_o god_n &_o before_o god_n that_o be_v true_a sometime_o which_o be_v false_a before_o man_n that_o be_v true_a before_o man_n which_o be_v prove_v by_o two_o or_o three_o witness_n mat._n 18.16_o he_o therefore_o be_v a_o saint_n before_o man_n in_o truth_n that_o continue_v to_o the_o end_n in_o faith_n repentance_n &_o the_o fruit_n thereof_o he_o be_v a_o saint_n before_o man_n in_o ●hew_n &_o appearance_n for_o the_o present_a that_o for_o the_o present_a bring_v forth_o fruit_n worthy_a amendment_n of_o life_n for_o a_o righteous_a man_n may_v forsake_v his_o righteousness_n ezech._n 18.14_o i_o be_o not_o therefore_o to_o define_v a_o saint_n as_o he_o be_v in_o show_n for_o the_o present_a but_o as_o he_o be_v indeed_o for_o ever_o in_o the_o judgement_n of_o man_n neither_o do_v i_o define_v a_o saint_n as_o he_o be_v in_o the_o lord_n knowledge_n which_o be_v not_o reveal_v to_o man_n but_o as_o he_o be_v reveal_v to_o be_v judge_v by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n i_o will_v declare_v this_o by_o instance_n for_o your_o further_a information_n &_o satisfaction_n 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&_o truth_n &_o of_o the_o full_a &_o complete_a communion_n thereof_o 1._o joh._n 2.19_o your_o second_o objection_n &_o reason_n be_v that_o by_o this_o my_o definition_n of_o saint_n or_o the_o matter_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n so_o determine_v i_o exclude_v the_o member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n of_o the_o old_a testament_n as_o hezechiah_n david_n ichosaphat_n moses_n etc._n etc._n who_o commit_v &_o suffer_v know_v sin_n yea_o &_o the_o corinthian_n 2._o cor._n 12.21_o also_o the_o church_n of_o asia_n revel_v 2_o 20.21_o who_o do_v not_o amend_v &_o yet_o be_v saint_n &_o true_a matter_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n i_o answer_v first_o to_o that_o of_o the_o old_a testament_n object_v by_o you_o i_o say_v your_o
fellowship_n communion_n agreement_n concord_n or_o part_n with_o you_o answer_v to_o this_o now_o master_n bernard_n and_o seduce_v your_o hearer_n no_o long_o with_o vanity_n parallel_n censure_n observation_n aperteyn_a to_o the_o eight_o section_n mr._n ber._n in_o his_o book_n entitle_v the_o sep._n schism_n pa._n 103._o have_v these_o word_n viz_n that_o ou●_n seven_o error_n shall_v be_v to_o hold_v that_o the_o sin_n of_o one_o man_n public_o &_o obstinate_o stand_v in_o be_v not_o reform_v nor_o the_o offender_n cast_v out_o do_v so_o pollute_v the_o whole_a congregation_n that_o none_o may_v communicate_v with_o the_o same_o in_o any_o of_o the_o holy_a thing_n of_o god_n though_o it_o be_v a_o church_n right_o constitute_v till_o the_o party_n be_v excommunicate_v in_o this_o eight_o section_n the_o position_n be_v thus_o utter_v by_o you_o &_o by_o i_o justify_v viz_n that_o one_o sin_n of_o one_o man_n public_o and_o obstinate_o stand_v in_o and_o not_o reform_v by_o a_o true_a constitute_v church_n do_v so_o pollute_v it_o that_o none_o may_v communicate_v with_o it_o in_o the_o holy_a thing_n of_o god_n till_o the_o party_n offend_v be_v by_o the_o church_n put_v out_o after_o lawful_a conviction_n afterward_o expound_v this_o truth_n i_o say_v that_o if_o the_o church_n hold_v this_o obstinate_a impenitent_a convict_a person_n in_o communion_n they_o consent_v to_o his_o sin_n as_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n suffer_v wilful_a murder_n consent_v unto_o it_o mr._n ain_n confutat_fw-la of_o mr._n bern._n pag._n 178.179_o do_v first_o renounce_v this_o truth_n &_o deny_v it_o to_o be_v either_o their_o judgement_n or_o practice_n refer_v we_o to_o the_o confession_n of_o their_o faith_n art_n 26._o where_o their_o judgement_n be_v that_o none_o be_v to_o separate_a for_o offence_n but_o by_o due_a order_n to_o seek_v redress_n &_o yet_o afterward_o affirm_v that_o if_o the_o church_n will_v not_o rebuke_v nor_o cast_v out_o a_o man_n obstinate_a and_o 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