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A47448 A counter-antidote, to purge out the malignant effects of a late counterfeit, prepared by Mr. Gyles Shute ... being an answer to his vindication of his pretended Antidote to prevent the prevalency of Anabaptism, shewing that Mr. Hercules Collins's reply to the said author remains unanswered : wherein the baptism of believers is evinced to be God's ordinance, and the baptized congregations proved true churches of Jesus Christ : with a further detection of the error of pedo-baptism : to which is added, An answer to Mr. Shute's reply to Mr. Collins's half-sheet / by Benjamin Keach. Keach, Benjamin, 1640-1704. 1694 (1694) Wing K54; ESTC R18808 95,415 63

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now than ever we were and we did and do believe that those who preach the Gospel ought to live of the Gospel He renders Mr. Collins no better than a Jesuite take his words this Man hath confidence and deceit enough to make a swinging Jesuite c. Page 16. Again he says This deceitful Man hides the Sense and meaning of them from the World Doth not this saviour of great malice Page 16. He says Infants have Faith yetin Page 10. of his Book he asketh what personal Faith a Child is capable of acting in an ordinary way or what good Fruit such Children are capable to bring forth 1. In Page 8. he renders those false Teachers who say that the Covenant God made with Abraham is repealed viz. the Covenant of circumcision he may see that we deny that the promise or Covenant of Grace God made with Abraham is repealed tho' we say the Covenant of circumcision God made with him is repealed 2. Such he says are false Teachers who say the Church State under the Law was Carnal 3. Such as deride and Scoff at habitual Faith in dying Infants Mr. Collins owns not such Faith to be in Infants is he therefore a false Teacher But how does he prove he derides or Scoffs c. 4. Such who take upon them the Work of the Ministry without Gods Call or being gifted or qualified he says are false Teachers Such we grant are not true Ministers but doth not he think you refer to such who were not trained up in School Learning I doubt not but our call from God to the Ministry is as good as others have tho' may be not every ways so well qualified as we ought yet humane learning is no qualification left by the Holy Spirit in the Scripture In Page 7. he says In this Authors former Book he hath by excluding Infants from Baptism exclud them from Eternal Life and Salvation dying in their Infancy How false that is let all Men Judg who have read Mr. Collins Book he refers unto Page 41. In Page 10. he says How wilfully blind and dishonest are you thus falsly to quote my words I can see no reason for those Unchristian expressions in Page 11. he says I suppose he means a long White Shift as if we Baptized Persons in a White Shift What sport is here for the Enemies of Religion Tho' I deny that Women were Baptized in that undecent immodest shameful way and manner saith he He means by Dipping the whole Body God saith he never appointed an ordinance to draw out and gratifie Mens lusts Page 11. O see what contempt he doth cast upon that way of Baptising which all Christians used for many hundred of years in the Church and which Christ appointed to the end of the World You represent to the World as if our way of Baptising were immodest and done not as comely or of good Report for this you are to be accountable to the most high God Friend if you please to come and see our Order in the Administration of that Ordinance I doubt not but you will be convinced of your Error and be forc'd to say That the Subject goeth with more Sobriety and Modesty to the Sacrament of Baptism than thousands do to the hearing of Gods Word or to the Sacrament of the Lord's Supper In Page 12. Therefore saith he there is no more work for the Club nor the Ax you may lay them by as useless or hang them up in Merchant Taylors Hall You may know what he intends and is not this like those who said is not this the Carpenter c. see what a strange Prayer he makes in Page 15 Where he pleads his Innocency God is a gracious God and I think the Man is acted in Zeal but not according to knowledg in Page 11. he says Our Author hath Coined a brand new Epithet to cover that unseemly Luxurious way of tripping and Dipping Women c. In Page 18. he would suggest that Mr. Collins is possessed with a Devil People say there is a Maid saith he possessed in Wapping for my part I think there is a Man poss●ss●d also hard words In Page 20. he boasts as if Anabaptism it self hath resigned up the Ghost and this may serve for its Funeral Sermon In Page 21. he breaks out I cannot tell what to think of this Man meaning Mr. Collins That should dare to have the confidence as to put out such scu●rilous abominable false and scandalous things Friend what shall we think of you and your Papers In Page 23. he renders the answering Books that are put out against Infant Baptism a raking in Dunghils and therefore such a one as he he thinks is fit to do it In Page 191. of this last Book he says that they meaning the Independant Congregations are not true Churches or else we are not I know no reason for this for I doubt not but they are true Churches as well as we they being godly Christians tho' I do believe they may be less compleat Churches Then those who are Baptized upon the profession of Faith or not so orderly in their constitution besides they have received as we Judge a Tradition of Man in the stead of Christs Institution This man says he can have Communion with those of our opinion yet says our Baptism is a counterfeit and we guilty of Sacriledge Page 190. But Friend I see not how they can have Communion with you without repentance considering all the hard words uttered by you You know who saith Men must give an account of all their hard Speeches c. God grant those I have mentioned and these following may not be laid to your charge calling our Baptism a mock Baptism and us diving Anticovenanters preaching without a call suggesting as if under Diabolical possession calling Jesuite swinging Jesuite calling Dipping which was the Apostolical way of Baptising more like a punishment of criminals c. Asserting that we make no better of Infants than Dogs calling our Doctrin Mountebank c. and a Minister a C C by which 't is concluded you intend Coxcomb asserting we have crasty positions uncouth glosses that we mince and limit the fundamental Doctrin of Mans Salvation To conclude let the Reader take notice of this viz. Were it not more for the Honour of God and Love to Truth I had not concerned my self with so lin●le an Antagoni●● as this is ● and in reproach call some Arminians Sacinians others gone back to Judaism some gormandisers feasting on Legs of Muiton in some places reflecting on Mens honest callings God by his providence called them once unto that our Doctrin damns Infants c. whether these Speeches he ought not publickly to acknowledg as evil Is not this as bad as to call his Brother Raca i. e. a vain person in anger or malice Cant Men write upon controversible points without such bitterness and reviling language I desire Friend you would go to God in Prayer and intreat for pardon
lastly you say their Baptism cannot be good because their Principle is to Baptise Adult Believers but not their Seed which is to Baptise but part of the believer whereas they should Baptise not only a part of him but all of him So that their Baptism is but a counterfeit Baptism Answer Is this to shew your great wisdom But are our Children a part of our selves and are we not believers without our Children How if our Children should prove unbelievers then I fear we shall not go for compleat believers but one part of us is a believer and the other part of us an unbeliever also then if your Child should perish but a part of you would be saved is it fit such stuff should be Printed Do not mistake your self you are one compleat Man and your Son another and you are no less compleat a Man if you have no Child at all So it you are a believer you are a compleat believer and want no part and if your Child is an unbeliever yet you are not less a compleat believer But you that Sprinkle only the Face I am sure you do not Baptise the whole person of a Child nor any part of it nor of the Adult neither What shall I call your Baptism In Page 187. you quote our three Queries but answer none of them 1. Whether Children are in the Covenant of Grace absolutely or conditionally ● Whether that can be an ordinance of Christ to which there is neither precept nor example 3. Whether in matters of meer positive right such as Baptism is we ought not to keep expresly and punctually to the revealed will of the Lawgiver Had you answered these three queris to the purpose you had done ten times more than what is contained in your whole Book But instead of answering you ask this question viz. where do you find any command for the Infant Seed of believers to stay till they are Adult to be Baptized 1. Answer Where did God expresly forbid Abraham to circumcise his Male Infants on the 7th or 9th day or not to circumcise Female Infants 2. There needs no Negative Law where there is a Law in the affirmative if on the 8th day it follows not on the 7th or 9th if Males only are expressed not Females so if believers if such who are taught and made Disciples by teaching are commanded to be Baptized then all must stay till they do believe and are taught and made Disciples before Baptized 3. Was not the Gospel think you planted in Joseph and Mary's House and yet the Holy Child Jesus stayed till he was about 30 years old before Baptized Also Gregory Nazianzen in his 4th Oration saith Dr. Duveil gives an instance of those who died without Baptism by reason of Infancy And the same Nazianzen saith he tho' he was a Bishops Son being a long time bred up under his Father was not Baptized until he came to Mans age and so Basil the Great who was born of pious Parents and instructed from his Childhood was not Baptized until a Man The like he says of Hiorem Ambrose Chrysostom Augustin c. Nothing of this nature ought to be done in Gods worship without authority from his wor● prove if you can one Infant was Baptized from the beginning of Matthew to the end of the Revelations of John Arguments to prove that those Churches who are gathered by Faith and Repentance and upon the profession of Faith are Baptized which are called Anabaptists are true Churches of Christ which Mr. Shute den●es so to be 1. ARgument All those Churches who are rightin matter and form are true Churches But those Churches falsly called Anabaptists are right in matter and form ●rgo they are true Churches The matter of true Churches are godly person or true believers the true form is the order or 〈◊〉 of the Gospel Church viz. The A●ult upon the profession of Faith and Repentance Baptized and so with joynt consent give themselves up to the Lord and one to another to walk in fellowship and commanion in all the Ordinances of the Gospel 2. Arg Those Churches which consist of godly persons owning all the essentials of the true religion among whom the word of God it truly preached and the Sacraments are duly administred are true Churchs of Jesus Christ. But th●se Baptized Churches we contend for falsly called Anabaptists do consist of godly persons owning all the essentials of the true religion among whom the word of God is truly preached and the Sacraments duly and truly administred ergo they are true Churches of Jesus Christ. 3. Arg Those Churches that are constituted according to the direct pattern laid down in the New Testament are true Churches of Jesus Christ. The Baptized Churches falsly called Anabaptists are constituted according to the direct pattern laid down in the New Testament ergo they are true Churches of Jesus Christ. To these let me add the fourth which Mr. Collins hath in his half Sheet 4. Arg. Those Churches who make Christs merits the foundation of their Salvation and his Doctrin the foundation of their Churches constitution are true Churches and their Baptism is Authentick But the Baptists do thus ergo 5. Arg. If the ordinances of Christ are to be kept as they were first delivered to the Saints and as practised by the Apostolical Church our Baptism which you call ● counterfeit is Christ's true Baptism But the Ordinances of Christ are to be kept as they were first delivered to the Saints and as they were practised by the Apostolical Church ergo our Baptism is Christs true Baptism But Friend how can you hold Communion with such persons who have a counterfeit Baptism for I hear you break Bread with some who own no other Water-Baptism but that of Believers only and deny Infants to be subjects thereof I think none of our godly Brethren who are Pedo-Baptists ever denied our Baptism tho' they strive to justify theirs which of them will call the Baptism of believers yea tho' such who were Sprinkled when Babes to be a counterfeit Without repentance you must be accountable for this one day CHAP. V. Containing an account of some of Mr. Shutes onseemly Scoffing and opprobrious language cast upon Mr. Collins and my self together with his false and abusive representation of us and of several places of Holy Scripture with his Impertinences Inconsistences and self-contradictions as also those abuses he hath cast on the Baptized Congregations in which Rom. 11. 16. is explained viz. if the Root be Holy so are the Branches And if some of the Branches were broken off c. FIrst I shall begin with Mr. Shute's unbecoming and Scoffing expressions as they lie here and there in his Book 1. Page 5. He intimates we are horribly bigotted to our opinion In Page 4. he says he will not render railing for railing Yet in Pag. 5. you will find these expressions speaking to Mr. Collins you have charged me falsly You bogled and jugled with the sac●ed
Scriptures Yet he has not made either of these things to appear In the said 5 Page he saith here thou hast the Cavils of the adversary Answered In Page 42. Because Mr. Collins saith that the habit of Faith if it be in all Infants of believers it cannot be lost there being no losing the habits of Grace c. Mr. Shute says this Gentleman meaning Mr. Collins doth as little Boyes that make a thing of Rags in Imitation of a Cock and when they have set it up throw at it But gives no other Answer as appears to me than by denying that he asserted all Infants of believers have habitual Faith yet 't is from that Topick he seems to plead for the Baptising of all believers Infants In Page 46. he says Mr. Collins is troubled with a grumbling in his gizzard Are those comely expressions He says in Page 57. that Mr. Collins is pleased to mock at habitual Faith because he compares Faith Potential and habitual Faith in the Infants of believers as such with Transubstantiation c. He renders me worse then the Devil Page 116. The Devil left out part of a Scripture once to tempt our Saviour with but in my weak Judgment saith Mr. Shute this Author had done it three times successively to maintain this error c. the better to beguile and deceive poor ignorant bigotted Souls c. The Lord knows I did not leave out part of the Text at any time to avoid answering their objection or to favour our cause But quoted then what was to the purpose in Hand And that objection I designed to answer afterwards as I did in the second part in order As the Reader may see that hath the Book In Page 82. he saith speaking of Mr. Collins was there ever such Legerdemain played with the Sacred Scripture In Page 23. he speaking to Mr. Collins crys out O for shame cease from bringing your Carnal reason c. Whereas 't is he himself that infers false conclusions from Mr. Collins words and then cries out O for shame Page 24. Where are you now with your humane invented Lame Decrepit Salvation c. Are not these Unchristian Reflections Resides he had no ground given him thus to abuse Mr. Collins as if his Salvation was lame and decrepid In Page 56. he abuses Mr. Danverse who is dead who was cleared by several Learned Ministers upon the answer of an Appeal of his Adversaries Mr. Sh●●●s's abusive and false Representations of us and false Interpretation of several places of Holy Scripture and Gods Holy Ordinance of Dipping Believers in the Name c. FIrst in Page 6 he calls Dipping Ducking and the like in several other places as i● we had Believers to a 〈◊〉 when we Baptise ●●●m And again to vili●●● that Holy Ordinance in the same 6 Page he says Dipping is more like a punishment of criminals than the 〈◊〉 of an Ordinance of God Yet Dipping was generally owned by all Pedo-Baptists formerly and by many of late In Page 7 he says The Jaylor and his House were Baptized the same h●ur of the Night whereas the Text only says he washed their S●ripes the same hour of the Night and was Baptized he and all his straight way Act. 16. 33. In Page 7. he says They were all Baptized in the Jaylers House which is a palpable abuse of the Text that they did not go out of his House to a River Yet the Text clearly intimates Act 16. 34. that after they were Baptized he that is the Jaylor brought them into his House Doth not that imply they went out of it And it might be to a River as far as he knows He also says That we read not of one Soul of the Jaylors House that did believe before Baptized besides the Jaylor himself Whereas we read that all his House believed as well as himself and as soon too as we read of the Jaylors own Faith so that he may as well say the Jaylor did not believe himself before he was Baptized as so to affirm concerning his House He says Page 11. John Bapti●● Baptized all that came unto him yet the Text clearly Implies he rejected the Pharisees and Sadducees bidding them to bring forth Fruits meet for repentance He asserts in Page 33. that those little Children our Saviour saith did believe on him were little Infants calling them Infant Believers He vilifies Mr. Collins for leaving out in his quotations a word in one or two Texts of scripture whereas he destroys not the Sense of the Texts by so doing nor done to favour his own ●●tion as that in Isa. 44. 3. where his Seed 〈◊〉 put for thy Seed and that in Acts 2. 39. Nor doth he wrong his Antagonist in the least and therefare no cause of complaint But palpable 't is Mr Shutes abuses that Text greatly Act 2. 39. for the promise is to you and to your Children and to all that are af●r off even so many as the Lord our God shall call Now see this Mans exposition of these worth in Page 71. viz. That was to all the Elect Gentiles and their Children for the promise runs in the same Channel to the Gentiles and their Children in the Text without any variation as is ●id to the Jews and their Children Answer If he had said to the Elect Gentiles and to their Children or off-spring also that are elected and called then he had not wronged the Text for the promise that is that of remission of S●n and of the Holy Ghost which runs first to the Jews that are called and to their Children or Off-spring that are called and so in like manner also unto the Gentiles that are called and to their Off spring that shall be called not to the Jews and their Children as such i. e. whether Effectually called or not but to no more of the Jews nor Gentiles themselves nor their Children but even so many as the Lord our God shall call Dr. Hammond confessed this Text is to little purpose brought to prove Infant Baptism Seeing by Children is meant off-spring and refers not to Infants as such It certainly intends no Children of Jews or Gentiles but such only who are elected and called ones Besides this Man hath left out words in several Texts of Scripture quoted by himself in his Book yet blames his Antagonists for so doing at a strange manner For because I left out the words Everlasting Covenant he comparies me to the Devil See Page 116. in Page 21. he 〈◊〉 Ger. 17. 9. 10 11. but saith he neither in these ●●●ee quotations nor in his whole Book hath 〈◊〉 so much as named that which is the quintessence of the Covenant c. namely as Everlasting Covenant The Devil left out part of a Scripture c. Answer I fear he saw but part of my Book for 't is a great untruth which he affirms viz. that I never named Everlasting Covenant for I as you have heard in this Answer did not only name it