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A14435	A very Christian, learned, and briefe discourse, concerning the true, ancient, and Catholicke faith, against all wicked vp-start heresies seruing very profitably for a preseruatiue against the profane nouelties of papists, Anabaptists, Arrians, Brownists, and all other sectaries. First composed by Vincentius Lirinensis in Latine, about twelue hundreth yeares ago. And now faithfully translated into English, and illustrated with certaine marginall notes. By Thomas Tuke.; Pro catholicae fidei antiquitate libellus. English	Vincent, of Lérins, Saint, d. ca. 450.; Tuke, Thomas, d. 1657. aut	1611 (1611)	STC 24753; ESTC S102090	49,335	192

great deale of matter in a few words and commonly expressing the thing by some conuenient new tearme for the clearenes of vnderstanding and not for any new meaning of the Faith CHAP. 33. BVt let vs returne vnto the Apostle O Timotheus saith he keepe that which is committed to thee auoiding the profane nouelties of words Auoid them saith he as a Viper as a Scorpion as a Cockatrice that they may not smite thee not onely by touching but by sight also and by breathing What is it to auoid Not to eate meate with such an one What meaneth this Auoide thou If there come any vnto you saith Saint Iohn and bring not this doctrine What doctrine meanes he but the Catholicke and vniuersall which both continueth by an vncorrupted tradition of the truth one the same throughout all succeeding ages and shall continue for euer and for euer without end But what followeth Do not quoth he receiue him to house neither bid ye him God speede For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his euill deeds Profane nouelties of words saith Paul What is profane Such as are altogether voyde of holinesse and religion vtterly strange from the bosome of the Church which is the temple of God Profane nouelties of words saith he nouelties of words that is of doctrines things opinions which nouelties are contrary to antientnesse to antiquity Which if they should be receiued it cannot bee but that the Faith of the blessed Fathers should be violated either all or for a great part thereof at least it must needs bee that all the faithfull of all ages all the Saints all the chaste the continent virgines that all the Cleargy Leuites and Priests that so many thousands of Confessors so great armies of Martyrs so great an assembly and multitude of cities and people that so many Islands Prouinces Kings Nations kingdoms countries and finally that now almost all the world being incorporated into Christ the Head by the Catholicke faith it must needs bee I say that all these aforesaid should be said to haue beene ignorant for so long continuance of time to haue erred to haue blasphemed and not to haue knowen what they should beleeue CHAP. 34. AUoid saith he profane nouelties of words which to receiue and follow was neuer the propertie of Catholickes but alwayes of Heretickes And in truth what heresie was there euer which did not spring vp vnder a certaine name in a certaine place and at a certaine time Who euer brought vp heresies but which first separated himselfe from the viuersall and antient consent of the Catholicke Church Which that it was so examples shew most cleerely For who euer before that prophane Pelagius presumed that the power of Free-will was so great that hee did not thinke that the grace of God was necessary to helpe it in good thngs in euery act Who euer before Celestus his prodigious discipline denyed that all mankind was guilty of Adams transgression Who before sacrilegious Arrius dared to diuide the vnity of the Trinity who durst confound the Trinity of vnity before wicked Sabellius Who before most cruel Nauatianus affirmed that God was cruell for that he had rather the death of him that dyeth then that he should returne and liue Who before Simon the Magitian whom the Apostle cursed from whom that whirle-poole of filthinesses flowed by a continual and hidden succession euen vnto Priscilianus the last and hindermost who I say before that Simon durst affirme that God the Creator is the author of euils that is of our abhominable acts impieties and wicked enormities For he did auouch that God himselfe did with his owne hands create the nature of men so as that by reason of a certaine proper motion or impulsion of a certaine necessary will it could doe nothing else it could will nothing else but commit sin because it being chafed and inflamed with the furies of all vices it is carried by an vnsaciable desire into all the gulfes or whirlepits of dishonest and filthy facts Innumerable examples there are of the like nature which for breuity sake we pretermit by al which yet we haue euidently and clearely inough shewed that this with almost all heresies is solemne as it were and according to Law to delight alwaies in prophane nouelties to contemne the ordinances of Antiquity and through oppositions of knowledge falsly so tearmed to make ship-wracke from the faith On the contrary also this is almost proper vnto Catholickes to keep those things which were left in the custody of the holy Fathers and were committed to them and to condemne prophane nouelties and as the Apostle sayd and sayd againe If any shall preach otherwise then that which was receiued to Anathematize or curse him CHAP. 35. HEere some man perhaps may aske whether Heretickes also do vse the testimonies of the holy Scripture Indeed they vse thē and in truth with vehemency for you may see thē flie through all euery booke of the word of God through the bookes of Moses and of the Kings through the Psalmes Apostles Gospels Prophets For whether it bee amongst their owne Followers or with others whether priuately or publickly whether in Sermons or in Bookes whether at Banquets or in the streetes they neuer almost vtter any thing of their owne which they labour not also to shadow with their words of the Scripture Reade the pamphlets of Paulus Samosatenus of Priscillian Eunomius Iouinian and the rest of those Plagues you may see an infinite masse of examples that no page welneere escapes which is not painted and colored with the sentences of the Old or New Testament But they bee so much the rather to bee taken heede of and feared by how much the more closely they lurke vnder the shadowes of Gods word For they know that their stinking errours would not quikly bee pleasing almost vnto any man if they should bee vented barely and as they are in their owne nature and therefore they bespice them as it were with the word of God that he which would easily despise the errour of man might not easily contemne the Oracles of God They doe therefore as those are wont which being to giue some bitter potions to children for to drinke doe first rub their mouthes about with honey that the silly little ones hauing before felt the sweetenesse might not be afraid of the bitternesse Which thing they also are carefull of which set the names of medicines vpon ill hearbes and hurtfull syrrops that almost no body would suspect poyson where he read a remedy written ouer CHAP. 36. FInally our Sauiour also cried out for the same thing Beware yee of false Prophets which in sheepes cloathing come vnto you but inwardly they are rauening Wolues What is sheepes cloathing but the sentences of the Prophets and Apostles which they with a certaine sheepe-like sincerity haue wouen as certaine fleeces for that immaculate Lambe which

neere the Church in the Inner Temple 1611. a In Natiu Dom. Ser. 4. Nisi vna est fides non est b Eccles 10. 15. c Psal 119. 105. d 2. Tim. 3. 16 e Aug. ep 48. Audi dicit Dominus non dicit Don●● c. f Is 8. 20. g Per Scripturam Deus loquitur omne quod vult Moral l. 16. c. 16. h Psal 25. 9. 12. 14. i Ioh. 16. 23. 1. Sam. 11. 2. Iohn 5. 39. o Indeede Christ lay at the Pass but that he did so at the last Supper the Scripture sayes not * Kneeling at Communion as it is required of the Church of England lawfull 1. Cor. 5 11. * Ego te non Catilmae aduersus patriā sed patriae aduer sus Caulinam gonui Quest An. * Iam. 4. 6. * 1. Pet 5. 5. Psal 25. 9. * Psal 119. 34. 66. * So called of Lerme or Lerina an Iland in the Mediterraneā sea where he liued a Deut 32. 7 e Pro. 22. 17. 3. 1. o This word signifies a pilgrime or stranger a word befitting al Christian men vnder this name our Author puts forth his Booke concealing his owne proper name least the Aduersary should reiect the worke for the workemans sake Or it may be a read peregrin a pilgrime or a stranger Psal 46. 10. a By not For the Ancients knew no merits but Christs They preached mercy not merit b That is with the helpe of God for to do a thing in the name of God is either to doe it to Gods glory or by his power authority or else as here by his grace or with confidence of his assistance as ● Psa 20. 5. c Not which himselfe hath forged vpon the anuill of his owne wit * He meanes especially such as are Saints not in respect of grace onely but of place as Bishops other Ministers whose office is holy d That is their deceit full reasons wherby they seeke to catch intangle men Quest Ans Quest Ans Quest. Ans Quest Ans Quest. Ans * Or especiall duntaxat * Latini sermonis that spake the Latine tongue d Bellona Furia were two heathen god desses the one was ouer war the other was the mother of fury c He means Constantius or Valens or both who were Arrians both f Or principall Courtiers g Antiquity acknowledgeth men liuing to bee Saints not dead men onely as some do h Heretiks break from their teachers exorbitate go an whoring after the idols of their owne braines * In sine cap. vlt. Reu. 5. 3. 5. i That is the holy Scriptures so called because it is giuen them to keep and teach I meane Ministets which book is then said to be vnsealed in our Authors sense when it is violated and corrupted k That is the Ministers of the Gospell so called because they did offer the people to God as a sacrifice killing their flesh with the Word as with a sacrifycing Knife l He alludes to the Candlesticke in Exod. 25. m Or ouerthrowen quasht stayed broken c●nteratur n Or against the custome ordin ances contra morem instituta Apud Cypri Lib. 2. Ep. 7. Obiect Ans Gen. 9. o By faith is not meant the gift of faith but the doctrine not by which but which wee do beleeue a Gal. 1. b 2. Tim. 4. c 1. Tim. 5. d Rom. 16. 17 e 2. Tim. 3. 6. f Tit. 1. 10. 11 g 2. Tim. 3. 8. h 1. Tim. 6. 4 ● i 1. Tim. 5. 13 k 1. Tim. 1. 19 l 2. Tim. 2. 17 m 2 Tim. 3. 9 o He alludes to Pedlars that go vp and downe to sell their Wares Gal. 1. 8. Quest Answer o He means not Faith whereby we do beleeue but which we doe belieue that is the doctrine of Faith which was once for euer deliuered to the Saints as in Iud. 3. Obiect Sol. Gal. 1. ● * Or infectious contagious Obiect Sol. Gal 2. 25. 26. Obiect Sol Gal. 5. 16. o There are now two sorts of Catholiks Christian Antichristiā the former are reall the other as the Iesuits are nominall titular * He alludeth to that in Act. 9. 15. * This he saith to shew the abhominablenes of their errours Quest Ans Deut. 13. 1. 2 ' a Deut. 13. 2. b Deut. 13. 3. c Or inhibit hinder let * Or teacher False teachers are called Wolues because they bite and deuoure the Sheep of Christ with their wicked errours and like Wolues they are not of the Sheepeheards feeding but his foes e He was Bishop of the Sirmitan Church But a Galatian borne skilfull in the Greeke and Latine tongues he fostered a blasphemous error against Christ and being a man of good parts otherwise ouerthrew himselfe with pride a moath that frets the cushion in which it bred as some Ancients say f Such an one is euery godly and orthodoxall Bishop and Pastor who goes before his fellowes the Sheepe of Christ in life and doctrine ringging the word of God in their eares being at the controll of the chiefe Sheepheard as well as the meanest in the flock g Humility is the nurse of verity pride curiosity be the founders of heresie a Christ is called the Word because he is begotten of the Father as words are of the mind and because hee shewes his Fathers mind vnto vs. e Non The●t ocos●sed Christoto●os Rom. 7. 13. i Lo the fond cōceit of this heretique The Colt ruins if he haue the reines o Not rage but zeale makes him thus to speake A dog will bawle bite a mad dog will not stick to bite his maister and that which he should not such are false teachers o Alius alius non aliud aliud Quest Ans Quest. Ans o Or thus is according to knowledge sayd to be created euen as in c u Psal 22. 16. a Dei non Deitatis of God not of the God head for so hee had no mother e She was holy not by generation but by regeneratiō her Sonne that tooke flesh of her gaue grace to her * Or preach * At the first sight before matters were scanned a He was the sonne of Leonides who dyed a Martyr vnder Seuerus e For his fathers goods were consiscated to Seuerus He cals his pouerty Holy because it befel him by tyranny for religion sake Cuius scientiae um Graeel encederent Obiect Sol. Obiect Sol. Obiect n Mammaa o So Cicero of Plato l. 1. Tusc quaest u He meaneth their authority Deut. 13. 1. * Or committed deliuered addicted bent * S. Ierome thinkes not so vide Epis ad Panimachium et Oceanum * Or conceipts and opinions sensus a He meaneth Priscilla and Maximil a two Montanists Deut. 13. 3. e Not cause but suffer i A quiēt hauen indeed for out of this harbour men are either tossed vpon the waues of errour or swallowed vp o For a vessell is not capable of wine till the water or dregs that filled be emptied out Pro. 22. 28. Eccles. 8. 17. Ecc. 10. 8. u 1. Tim. 6. 20. 21. a Cainophonias siue Cenephonias Pron 9. 15. 16. i Furtim o Terrigenae * 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 1 Tim. 6. 20. Exod. 36. 1. * Or after a new fashion Noue non noua Quest. Ans o To proceed or make progresse o Laetetur be manured for laetamen is manure which being layd on the ground doth make it flourish Pallad lib. 1. vseth this word In laetandis inquit arboribus crs tes facicmus u 2. Cor. 3. 9. a An errour stifly mainteined is a filthy harlot * Or barely 1. Tim. 6. 20. 1. Cor. 5. 11. 2. Ioh. 10. 2. Ioh. 11. o Porrò fiue procul a sano * Or opinion concerning things or matters * Or the continent the virgins e Acts 8. 21. i That is Heretickes count is a Law and make it as a Trade * Or which the holy Fathers left in their custody Diposit● patrum Gal. 1. 9. Quest Ans o So he calleth pestilent and pernicious Teachers whose errors are as plague-soares rotten and infectious u Or drugs Math. 7. 15. Math. 7. 16. 2 Cor. 11. 13. o Or word u vers 14. 15. Quest An. Mat. 4. 5. Luk. 4. 9. Psal 91. 11. a These words are not in the Gospell though in the Psalme c That is the Diuell to Iesus and Hereticks to true Catholikes 1 Tim. 3. 15. Quest. Ans * He is said to steale the truth which writhes the Scriptures to his owne opinion or errour peruerting their meaning * Or Scriptures * For the person doth not commend the faith but faith the person 1. Cor. 12. 28. Acts 11. 27. 28. 1. Cor. 1. 10. 1. Cor. 14. 33. Uers 36. Vers 37. Uers 38. Which receiued Ualens the Arrian hauing before condemned him * Ad verb. to sacred Antiquity * Perhaps it shold be read Bishop of Alex. for the Comma is wanting in some bookes * Ad verb. of the sacred number of the Decalogue * That is the whole Church o For Papa Pope is Fatheria name of old giuen to other Bishops thē the Romane Ephes 4. 5. * All corrupt cōceits of men are no better then mud or mine they are foule filthy and therefore to be shunned of such as would not be desiled * Or forsaking the ancient Religiō through silence Quest Ans * That is which the holy Fathers agreeing in Christ held of old before 1. Tim. ● Gal. 1. o Hee that hath not the Church for his mother hath not God for his father nor Christ for his brother * Or mended and repaired