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A07436 A plaine subuersyon or turnyng vp syde down of all the argumentes, that the Popecatholykes can make for the maintenaunce of auricular confession with a moste wholsome doctryne touchyng the due obedience, that we owe vnto ciuill magistrates, made dialogue wyse betwene the prentyse and the priest by Gracyous Menewe. Menewe, Gracious.; Becon, Thomas, 1512-1567, attributed name. 1555 (1555) STC 17822; ESTC S109991 27,582 98

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¶ A plaine subuersyon or turnyng vp syde down of all the argumentes that the Popecatholykes can make for the maintenaunce of auricular confession with a moste wholsome doctryne touchyng the due obedience that we owe vnto ciuill magistrates made dialogue wyse betwene the Prentyse and the Priest by Gracyous Menewe ¶ Psalme 31. ¶ I sayd I will confesse my sines vnto the Lorde and so thou forgaueste the wickednesse of my people To all faythfull brethren that loue Iesu Chryste sincerelye Gracious Menewe wysheth grace and peace of conscience and Godly strength from God the father throughe oure Lord Iesu Chryst. MAny in these moste perylous tymes whych haue deseruingly chaunced vnto vs for our synnes are in such perplexite and troble of conscience that they can not tel which waye to turne thēselfes whom to helpe and succoure accordyng to the lyttell talent that God hath lent me I haue thought to be my bounden duty And truelye I would haue long agone discharged my conscience in thys parte If I myght by any meanes haue conueniently published and sette forth abroade those thynges that I had prepared for the purpose But that could not bee whyche thynge was to me no lesse gryeuous than if I my selfe had felte the same burdē and payne that I sawe my poore brethren to fele howbeit sith accordyng to the commen prouerbe it is better late then neuer I haue now at thys present penned or written out a litle treatyse wherin I show briefly out of Gods boke and such auncyent wryters as ground their sayinges vpon the same how farre forth we oughte to bee obedyente vnto ciuill magistrates And thys I dyd because many are of this opinion that they are bounde to do whatsoeuer the higher powers cōmaunde them though their lawes were directlye agaynste God and his word in so much that they persuade them selues that they shalbe excused by them in the dreadful dai of iudgemente when we shall appeare all before god if at anye tyme they commit manifest Idolatrye and playne vngodlynesse throughe theyr commaundement Whom I desyer in the bowels of our sauiour Iesu Christ who hath shedde his blood indifferently for all them that heare his worde obedyently and wythout any feare what man can doe vnto them stike and cleaue stedfastly vnto it that they wyll dyligently and wythout affectyon puttyng asyde all vayne loue of their selues looke vpon the places and examples of the holye scripture and vpon the autorites of the olde auncyente fathers that I haue here alleaged in thys my small boke truly aunswerynge all maner of obiectyons that ar made to the contrary then I truste they wil be better aduised and ceasse to please themselues in that which is euil or to iustifie their manifest disobedyence towardes God and hys woorde vnder the pretence and colour of the obedyence that we owe vnto hys magistrates and rulers of the earth whom in the scriptures we are streightlye commaunded to obeye yea vpō paine of damnacyon But in the meane season we muste alwayes haue before our eyen the golden sētence of our sauiour Chryste where he sayeth pay that vnto Ceasar that is due vnto Ceasar and paye that vnto God that is due vnto God If Ceasar that is to say the ciuill magistrates commaunde the nothyng that God hath forbyddē or forbydde thee nothynge that God hath commaunded if thou doeste not then obeye yea thoghe it were to the ieopardye of losinge both lyfe and goodes thou mayst be sure that the vengeaunce of god and euerlastynge damnacyon of hell hangeth ouer thy head ▪ but if the magistrates forgettyng theyr duetye towardes GOD from whom they haue receaued all autoryte and power dooe take vpon them to commaund thee ani thing that GOD hath forbydden or to forbydde thee any thynge that the hygheste Monarche of all hath commaunded thou oughtest in no wyse to obeye not that thou shouldeste make any resystaunce whyche thynge GODDES worde teacheth thee not but that thou shouldest rather w t Sidrach Misach and Abednago and wyth the holy prophete Daniel offer thy selfe to dye a most shamefull and cruel death than in any wyse to be obedyent to theyr vngodly lawes wycked constitutiōs or statutes This thou mayest learne with diligent and affectuouslesse readynge in this boke wherin also thou shalt haue a moste necessary doctryne of confession teachyng thee how auricular confession whiche nowe a dayes to the great hynderaunce of Goddes trueth and defacynge of hys glory is set vp agayne hath no grounde at al nor foundacyon in Goddes woorde but is a mere tradition of that Antichryste of Rome beeyng now besydes al other enormites that bee conteined in it made a snare to snarle catche men wyth all Here are all the argumentes y t the Popecatholykes can make for the maintenaunce of thys Antichristian tradycyon cleane subuerted and turned vpside down with the mightye thunder boltes of Goddes word and with y e strong batteryng peces of the holye fathers of the true catholike church and spouse of oure sauyoure Iesu Christ. And then immediatlye after it is declared what maner of confessyon God doeth requyre of vs in his most sacred worde and holy scripture Thys small laboure of myne I desyre all true faythfull Chrystyans to take in good worth and to praye wyth me instauntlye that God of hys infinite goodnesse and mercye vouchesafe to strengthen them that doe stande and to coumforte and helpe the weake hearted to rayse them vp that fal and finally to beate down Sathan vnder oure fete Whiche thing doubtelesse he wyll doe for hys sonne Iesu Chrystes sake to whom wyth the father and the holy goste bee al praise glorye and honoure for euer and euer So be it ¶ A moste wholsome talke communication betwixt the prentyse and the Pryest touchyng the matter of auricular confessyon wherein all the argumentes that y e Popecatholykes can make for y e mayntenaūce of this Antichristiā tradiciō ar ouerthrowē and quite turned vpside down made by Gracyous Menew PRiest I am glad that I haue met you nowe in so good a tyme yonge man for I haue some what to saye to you Prentyse What haue ye to saye to me master persō here I am ready to heare whatsoeuer ye wyl say Priest How chaunce that ye are so disobedient at thys time to y e Quenes proceadynges Dooe ye not knowe that the scripture biddeth vs to obey y e higher powers And hath not the Quenes maiestye wyth her moste honorable counsayl sent a commission and a most streight iniunction that al generally that are in the yeares of discretion shoulde come to shrifte or auricular confession Howe doeth it chaunce then that ye are so vnwyllyng to come and to fulfyl her graces commaundment Prentise I knowe right wel master person that we are bidden in the scripturs and worde of God to be obedyent to the magistrates and hygher powers For S. Paull sayeth let euery soule submitte her selfe to the autorite of