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A14048	The rescuynge of the romishe fox other vvyse called the examination of the hunter deuised by steuen gardiner The seconde course of the hunter at the romishe fox & hys aduocate, & sworne patrone steuen gardiner doctor & defender of the popis canonlaw and hys ungodly ceremonies. Rede in the last lefe the xij articles of Bisshop Steuens neuu popish credo.	Turner, William, d. 1568.; Gardiner, Stephen, 1483?-1555.	1545 (1545)	STC 24355; ESTC S118747	102,679	202

Plato But if terence were bannisshed for euel doyng alone not for euel sayng when terence were bannisshed men myght folow Platoes speche where it is good thoghe it had ones cummed out of terences pen and he had used it But what is thys to the purpose Can ye proue that the doctrine that cam thorow the popis pen was not hys own but the doctrine of the father of heuen If ye can proue that the pope can iustly say withe Christe the worde whiche ye heare is not myne but my fathers whiche hathe sent me i will also alow the popis doctrine as ye do not because it is hys but becaus it cam from god but foras miche as nether ye no he can proue that hys doctrine cam from god i will take yow bothe for fals Prophetes as i haue don hyther to Herken to me ones as i haue don to yow your sayng is that Platoes learnyng that terence had vsed were not to be cast away when terence were bannisshed thoghe it had cum med thorow terences pen well so beit Wilyam tyndale wrote many bookes where in ar many true and godly sentences and saynges whiche he had taken out of the holy scripture and the hole new testament whiche is the vndouted word of god cam out of hys pen in to our englishe tōg willyam tyndale was bannisshed out of Englond and burnt as an heretike in brabant whether is it welland wisely don or no that hys bookes whiche conteyn so miche godly learnyng and the hole new testament whiche cam thorow hys pen ar for bidden to be red and so bannisshed for an heresi or ij that ye say ar in in hys bookes and for half a dosen fautes that ar in hys translation If it be euel don whi do ye not amend your doyng and whi suffer ye not hys bookes to be red whi blot ye not out the fautes of hys translation and condemne nomore Christis learnyng because it cam thorow W. Tyndalles pen If it be well don that W. Tyndalles bookes and the new Testament of hys translation ar forbidden to be red and ar bannisshed away withe hym because they haue sum fautes or an heresi or ij in them and ar cummed out of hys pen then all the hole doctrine that euer the pope taught withe all hys traditions and bookes whiche ar so full of heresies and superstitiones and haue so litle scripture in them ought to be miche more bannisshed away with the pope and ought to be forbidden to be red then tindalles bookes and the Testament of hys translation ought now to be bannisshed and forbidden Is there any holyer doctrine in the popis law and in hys ceremonies and traditiones then is in the new Testameut of tyndalles translation ar there not as many hereses in the popis bookes as in tyndalles What reson is it then that tyndallis bokes and the new Testament of hys translation shall be bannisshed away withe tyndal and be forbidden to be red and that the popis doctrine and ceremonies withe hys bookes shall not be bannisshed withe the pope but shall be kept still and red in the chirche as a new gospel in the mother tōg that all the hole chirche may under stande his doctrine and learn it when as Christis doctrine must be sayd and song in such a tong as not one among an C. vnderstandethe because as it apperethe that few shuld learn it Whether hathe tyndal now or the pope more fauor shewed vnto hym in Englond tyndall which is bannisshed bothe bodely withe all hys bokes doctrine both good ād bad or the pope whos doctrine bookes ar red alowed after that he is cōmanded of the hiest pour vnder god to be bannisshed out of Englond for his heresi treson If the pope haue not more fauor then Christe hathe in Englonde Why may the popis gospel be red of all mē in English and Christis gospel is forbiddē to be red in ēglish and only a few of gētle and rich mē may rede it The rescuer Christe sayd Doctrina non est mea sed eius qui misit me patris And miche more what so euer is good spokē or used by any mā is of god The hunter The comon heretike catcher is now becumned an open heretik hym self and a minissher of Christis glori a preferrer of mē before god for thus saiethe he What so euer is good spokē or vsed by any mā is myche more of god thē Christis doctrine is He sayeth that the popis ceremonies ād traditiones whiche i write agaynst ar good thē ar they by hys sayng miche more of god thē Christis gospel is And therfore belike he forbad that certayn men shall rede Christis gospel suffereth all that will to rede the popis traditiones whiche he hath of late yeares set out at large interlaced here there wit a pece and a pache of Christis learnyng to purches more autorite vnto thē if that he had thought that Christis learnyng had bene as miche of god as he thought the popis traditiones decretalles decrees clementines he wold as well haue fuffered all mē that wold haue red Christis gospel as well to rede it as he hathe permitted all mē wymē childer that list to rede the popis ceremonies tradiciones decrees dectetal les clementines Now is it cūmedout at leughthe for what caus was there such diligent inqueri made euery quarter for the transgressiō of the popis ceremonies suche paynes of dethe ordened therfore so small inquery litle ponishmēt ordened for the breakyng of the cōmandemētes of Christe Now had Christe nede of the testimoni of Iohā baptist nathānel andre peter to beare hym witnes that he is the son of god whyche if the popis proctour beleued to be true he wolde say that Christis good doctrine were as well and as myche of god as the good doctrine of any man If that thys saynge of gardiner be vn examined and vncumpelled to be recanted as an abominable heresi that Christis doctrine is not so myche of god as any good thyng vsed or spoken by any man is of god then i say that he hathe gotten as they say in cambrydge agrace ab omnibus and a licens to be a papist and an heretik and that no mannis accusation agaynst hym shalbe hearde The rescuer And hym ought we to make author of all good nes were it balaames ass that vttered it If Christ be preachede sayeth saynt Paule be it per contentionem or iudicium let it haue place modo Christus predicetur Looke vpon the trewthe goodnes of the thyng settyng a parte the person that speakethe precheth vttereth executethe or commandethe the same Ne ther was here to fore any man so mad as expellyng a tyrant wold cast away withe hym both that whiche was good and that whiche was euel also The hunter As we ought to make god autor of all goodnes so we ought

faythe of hope charite humilite liberalite patience or of any other vertu but a Christen preacher both can do the same dothe the same manyfoldes myche better with out any peril of spiritual fornicatiō How can an image teache faythe with hyr example whiche hathe non at all when as true faythe cummeth of hearyng of goddis worde how can the dum image teache fayth whiche cannot speak one worde of god How shal the image teach ' charite that loueth no mā How shal the image teach humilite that boweth to no man or liberalite that gyueth nothyng or patience whiche suffereth nothyng Then if ye wolde let the scripture go abrode in to euery mannis hande and make your prestes as diligēt in preachyng as they ar bysy in vn profitable playes shewes of ceremonies or if ye wold admitt none to be prestes but suche that were as able to teache as blynd images ar we shuld nede no images at all in the chirche no more then ther was in the primatiue chirche Then when as images cannot be in the chirche without ieperdi of idolatri as ye bear witnes your self which wil so long gyue outward worship vnto images whiche is idolatri as ye haue images in the chirche and we nede them not and may want them well and to put one self in ieperdy where no nede is is to tempt god that is sin it foloweth that it is not lawful to haue images in the chirche namely where theyr worship is defended and where men haue vsed and vse still to abuse them and gyue to them outwarde worship as ye do Thes few reasones haue i brought be caus i wold not be long i could haue brought out examples out of histories alowed writers and out of the ciuile lawes of Emperoures to haue proued that images haue bene forbidden to be in the chirche but i differ them vntil an other tyme If i se not the abuses of images taken away intendyng to bryng them with all the reasones that i can make Brynge ye now as many resones for the hauyng and outward worship of images as i haue brought agaynst them or ellis chyde out your parte or procure that my book may be forbidden to be red that ye ned to take no suche importable payne vpon yow or ellis grant that ye haue bene deceyued and defended vnlawful doctrine The rescuer And so is not hys last concludyng argument whiche he calleth hym self not easy to assoyle whiche is thys we myght not worship the angel Peter and Poul being the better ergo not the cross beinge of less estimation then Peter or Paul I to assoyl the matter easely say the man vseth sophistri in the worde worship for if he take worship to signifi reuerent behauour then i say that the antecedent is fals and if he will it signifi godly honor it is trewly sayd but nothyng to the purpose The hunter If that to say that a● man vse the sophistri in a worde not able to proue it were a sufficient solution of an argument indede it were an easy thyng to solute an argument but it is not so easy to solute my argument as ye thynke ye know that i disputed withe yow before of outward worship of the cros that ye wold haue it gyuen to the cross and that i held that it shuld not be gyuen to the cros your distinction is therfore vayn and interlaced with a lye And as for my antecedent i proue it thus No trew seruant of god forbiddeth any thyng that is lawful but Peter Paul and the angel forbad men to fal down before them ond to do suche outward worship vnto them as ye do to the cros and they were trew seruantes of god therfore it was not lauful for men to fall down before them and to do suche outward worship vnto them as ye do vnto the cross Moreouer ether must ye say that Cornelius Iohan were damnable idolaters or ellis that they gaue only outward worship vnto thē whom they took not for god but for theyr superioures set in hyer dignite autorite then they were for to fall down before a man or angel and to gyue to the man or the angel godly honor is playn idolatri whiche honor if Cornelius or Iohan haue gyuen vnto Peter and to the angel it can not be denied but they were idolaters The rescuer For nether Paule nether the cros can be worshipped with godly honor The hunter If that a calf made of gold may be worshipped with godly honor and an other man may be worshipped with godly honor the cros and Paul may be worshipped withe godly honor but the golden calf that aaron made was worshipped withe godly honor exodi the xxxij when as the peple sayde vnto it Behold o Israel here ar thy goddes whiche haue brought the out of Aegypt That images haue bene worshipped with godly honor also it is playn by the first chapter of the Epistel to the Romanes Where as it is writē Whē they beleued that they were wise they were made fooles haue changed the glori of the in corruptible god by the lyknes of an image of a corruptible man In the xij chapter of the actes the peple whiche spak thus of Herodis voice It is the voice of god not of man gaue vnto hym godly worship becaus he gaue not the glori vnto god he was eaten to deathe with wormes Then may the image of the cross and Paule be worshipped withe godly honor furthermore what shuld allmyghty god nede to forbid men to gyue godly honor vnto men and images if men images cold not be worshipped as ye say with godly honor Let thē that haue autorite to inquere of heresies loke whether thys mānis sayng is heresi or no If it be holdē stifly it must nedis be heresi for it is cōtrari to the opē text of the scripture The rescuer In speakyng agaynst holly water whiche he entendeth to impugne the mannis malice putrefieth for lak of salt whiche he cannot abyde to be sanctified by the inuocation of the name of god The hunter In my former book i haue sufficiently confuted the deuellish coniuryng of hally water and vncouered the crafty iugglyng of the papistes whiche on while sayd that they held it stil in the chirche in the remembrance of Christes blood and an other while to dryue deuelles away to put venial synnes away and to heal all syknesses The caus whye that thys proctor of the pope manteyneth thys hally water so er nestly is because hys holy father alexander ordened it and commanded all popishe prestes as gardiner is to make it not to be a remēbrance of Christes bloode and of our baptim but to purge men from sin as hys wordes that ordened it do testifi in the boke of the popis decrees Aquam sale conspersam ▪ populis benedicimus c. We bliss water sprinkled withe salt for the peple that they sprinkled with it may be hallowed

such a diseas with all for a miracle is a strange and a rare work aboue nature Christe had good cause to worke such miracles and wonders for the iewes wold not haue receyued hys doctrine and beleued that he had bene of god if he had not wroght such wonders Therfore Christe to purches credence vnto hys doctrine which was thought vnto the iewes a new learnyng and not of god was dryuen to work miracles But what nede haue ye now to work miracles dothe not all men and wymen in Englond beleue that Christe is of god and that hys doctrine is true ye worke a great miracle if that ye heal all diseases with salt and yit a greater miracle when ye can make the soul receyue salted water and saue it therby for it is not only aboue nature that ye go about but also contrari to nature Then when ye nede now no miracles and neuer the less go about to worke miracles whils by oue litle receyt ye take in hand to heal all the diseases of bothe body and soule your prayers ar folishe and wikked where in ye desyre god to helpt yow to work your miracles and therfore labor in vayne and bring neuer to pass that ye go about your prayers ar wikked for they ar to the disshonor of Christ for they require that salted water shuld do as mych as Christe can do Also when as of lyke thynges is one iudgement and lyke prayers vnto youres ar wikked it folowethe that youres ar also wikked By the same autorite that ye haue brought water and salt in to the chirche and desyre god that they may dryue deuelles away take away veniall sinnes and be saluation of both body and soule to all them that receyue them may ye bring in to the chirche a calf and a sow and say allmyghty god we beseche the grant vs that thys calf thys sow may chace away deuelles take away venial sinnes and may be saluation of bothe body soul to al them that eate of them By the same autorite may ye bring in to the chirche euery sonday a dishe ful of milk and make thys prayer o all mygty euerlastyng god we hymbly beseche the grant vs that thow wil wit safe so to hallow and sanctifi ▪ thys milk thy creature that who soeuer suppeth of it by the inuocatiō of thy name may haue poure to draw owt of what soeuer tether he liste so miche milk as he will desyre for as far as it is contrari vnto the nature of a sow and a calfe to chace deuelles away to purge venial sinnes and to be saluation to a mannis soul and as far as it is contrari to the nature of a tether to gyue milk so miche is it contrari to the nature of salt to heal hote burnyng agues and to the nature water to hele dropses and palses and to them both mixt together to be helth of both body and soule your prayer is therfor wikked then is it no meruel that ye neuer obteyn that ye ax How can thos prayers be other then wikked where in the name of god is called vpon in vayn Christ did not hele the soul of the blynde man with clay but only he delyuered hym from hys blyndenes with it therfore it foloweth not becaus he vsed clay agaynst blyndenes that ye may vse salted water to heal both the body and the soule Where as it is sayd that many were saued by the fayth of Iesu Christe that is no other thyng to say then that many were saued by Christe whom they took hold vpon by faythe then is not fayth an other sauiour besyde god but it ledeth vs vnto god And when as god is our sauiour and he draweth vs vnto hym by the mean of faythe when i say that fayth iustifieth i mean that god iustifieth vs by faythe Therfore when as faythe is a mean ordened of god when i say fayth saueth i exclude not god admitting hys instrument nether make i any other sauiour but hym that worketh by hys appoynted instrument But when as salted water is no instrument of our god wher with he worketh our saluation and yit ye gyue saluation vnto it it foloweth that after your iugement it is ether a god it self or sum instrument of sum other god whiche worketh saluation by it And where ye ax whether Paule maketh many sauioures where as he sayeth that Timothe redyng exortyng and techyng of the worde of god shal saue hym self i answere that Paule maketh no mo sauioures but god alone for he attributeth saluation vnto the instrumentes whereby god worketh saluation When as Dauid killed golias with a slinge he that sayeth that Dauidis sling killed golias sayeth not theyr was 〈◊〉 sleers of golias be syde Dauid for the slyng was the proper wepen that Dauid killed golias withe so is Timothe goddis instrument wherby he wrought the saluation of Timothe and of them that beleued hys prechyng But if a man say that a lance killed golias the same man maketh an other killer of golias besyde Dauid for the lance was none of the wepens that Dauid killed golias with So he that gyueth saluation instrumentally to any instrumentes whiche god hathe only appoynted and vsed to work saluation by makethe no mo sauioures but god alone but he that gyuethe saluation vnto other instrumentes then ar peculiare and proper vnto god which nether god apoynted nether at any tyme hath vsed nether will alow for hys instrumentes maketh an other sauiour besyde god Now haue i made yow an answer to your question that saynt Paul maketh not many sauioures Now what will ye gather of thys answer Will ye gather that salted water may as wel be an instrument of saluation as Timothe was If thys be your gatheryng i gathere thus of yow agayn that ye holde that the pope hath as myche autorite to ordeyn salted water to be an instrument of saluation as allmyghty god had to make Tymothe an instrument of saluation by the redyng and prechyng of hys worde whiche if ye do it is more tree that ye ar a Papiste then the deuel hateth your falsly called holy water which at hys motion was by pope Alexander brough in to the chirche to the mokkage and great iniury of Christes bloode Mark reder whither thes defenders of ceremonies as i haue sayd oft do any thyng agaynst abuses but dissemble til they may fynde a better tyme v. yeare ago master gardiner durst not for hys eares haue defended holy water any other wyse but as a putter of vs in remembrance of Christes blode and of our baptim nether durst he say that images myght be worshipped with outward reuerence but shuld be only laymens bookes but now when he hathe spied hys tyme holdeth openly that hally water may be vsed in the chirche for the same endes and purposes that hys father pope hathe ordened it for and brought it in to the Church that is to dryue deuelles away to heal all